i totally understand you on this fact...but think about it...these cops have no idea if the man has

1. Heart Problems
2. any other problems with his mind or body

they should have tried anything else before beating him down to make sure he didnt get hurt

1. they hit him with the sticks first
2. then they pepper spryed him

^that should have been the other way around...but it wasnt

and no he wasnt getting back up from what i saw....he was grabbing at the sticks.....but you may be right about him getting back up

but the thing that made me say "wait a minute".....i saw him on the ground reaching for the sticks...then an officer takes one stick.....and jabs it in his face....that was fucked up

its the long arm of the law and will sum how never change...
there was an incident in England where a police officer was disrespectfully fired from the force for jus jabbing n kicking a guy for no reason..this was caught in camera...

nuttin will change anywhere..its uop to the government to get tighter around this shit pz

Here's the old man's two cents...

I do not approve of the cops beating this motherfucker to death.

Was it excessive?

Yes, it was.

Was it necessary?

Perhaps, but most likely not.

But here's the thing, Chrit, Bounce and the rest of you aren't grasping...

WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING SWINGING AT COPS FOR???

That's like saying, "I climbed into that lion's cage at the zoo, kicked one of those lions in the ass...and I'll be damned, they all jumped up and mauled the shit outta me! That's not fair!"

Well, no, it's not fair...

But that's the nature of the beast.

All you guy's are preaching Rodney King and shit...

Well, that was well over ten years ago.

If you haven't figured out by now that giving cops lip or physically fucking with them will earn you an ass-kicking...

Well...

Perhaps you need to be weeded out of society by a good fatal police beating, eh?

And don't think I don't know what's up...

I've done my thug and jail time...

Been there, done that...

And even as a punk ass, long haired teenager...

I knew not to fuck with the cops.

Even though one of my charges was aggravated assault with a deadly weapon on an officer of the law.

You know how I got off?

A real good fucking lawyer...

Who presented my pretty, unmarked face to the judge at the pre-trial hearing...to see if it's gonna go to an actual trial...

And that killed the cop's case...

The judge read the bullshit charges and literally told the prosecuter...

"You expect me to believe this young man brandished a 5 and a half inch knife at 4 Houston Police Officers, charged at them with the intent to inflict bodily harm...and, yet...he doesn't have a single mark on him?"

The charge was reduced to a misdemeanor assault and I walked with a 200 dollar fine.

And why?

Cuz even judges know...

YOU DON'T FUCK WITH COPS!!!

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

god hasw spoken...i especially liked the lion part pz

Why is it that US cop are so sick in the fuckin head and racist? In England the cops get beat down by the pps.... thats the right way, jus playin

^im not preaching rodney king..........and this dude was high off coke.....maybe he was too fucked up to control what he was doing.........

You have a point, but I am arguing form another angle here. I understand your point and it's a valid one but in the case of a cop beating your ass for nothing your natural instinct is to protect yourself. Even more so if you fear for your life. Cop or not, if someone is fearing for thier life they are going to try and stop the baton/cop from beating them. Axe I hace family members who are cops as well so I do understand and respect your point but all too often cops allow the power of the badge to cloud thier judgement.

I can clear this all up in a minute. We all have witnessed on TV, or real life cops and/or unarmed animal control personnel subdue and capture without harm, a crazed and hungry wild animal. In the case of a 1000 pound bear the public would be appualed by the use of deadly force on the animal, yet in the case of a 350 pound human being they are not. I am sorry if you can capture subdue and detain a wild flesh eating animal weighing 1000 pounds without incident, I think the same is appropriate for a human on drugs or not! Yet a doped up large black man is worth less of a decision, than a fucking bear! So I state my case again....FUCKA BABYLON BANDIT!!!!!!!

I hear what ya sayin, Bounce...

Ya right, the same respect should be given.

If they can rope a bear or tiger or some shit...

They should be able ta rope a human.

But, reality ain't that way.

Shame that it isn't...

Ahhh now you see where I was going with my original rant! Kind of sucks, PETA's trying to save the chickens at all cost, yet it is not in the best interest of mankind to bring a man down without inflicting bodily harm! Anyone who knows how to wrestle, hunt or rodeo, could have brought that guy down with ease!

Try Being A 200 Pound Cop With Extra Gear Weighin You Down... (Vest, Belt, Etc...) And You Try To Wrestle Down A 350+ Pound Man That Is Bullrushing You... It's Easy To Say, "Yea, I Would've Just Peppersprayed Him"(Habitat), "Put Him In A Headlock"(Chrit) But The Truth Is... This Is All Easier Said Than Done. I Just Saw The Video Again Today In The Morning And I Stick With My Views... No UNNECESSARY Force Was Used... They Needed Take Him Down Before He Did Harm To The Officers... They Didn't Have Time To Try To Sweet Talk Him Into The Cuffs, And You Actually Thing The Officers Would've Ran Away? No... Most Of You Are Just Bein Quick To Yell "Racist" When That's Not What Caused This.

Better than the cops in oh lets say Columbia, Cuba, Russia, pick a country almost any country.

If You Have Nothing Productive To Add To The Discussion... Don't Contribute Anything At All.

Axe, refer to my post where I quoted you before.

Seriously, pull out the gun.
Or take out the 350lb man's legs...its hard to get up on broken lets, especially when your 350lbs...


Some local coffee shop should have given them all free doughnuts. They would have all calmed down and become friends.

i didnt say that...i said they should have pepper sprayed him first then if they had to beat him.......b/c they beat him....then peppersprayed him....thats jsut a waste of pepperspray...which costs the taxpayers money

plus...im not saying they are racist....b/c they would have probly done the same to a white 350 lb guy.............it just wouldnt have been as publicized

OK... I See Where You Comin From... But In The Heat Of The Moment You Don't Have Time To Analyze Where You Should Be Hitting The Suspect To Be Most Effective... Out In The Streets, The Decisions Needa Be Made In Seconds... With Adrenline Rushing... You're Just Swingin To Keep The Guy At Bay. And They Never Hit The Guy In The Head... The Autopsy Reports Are In And They Were All Body Blows. Just Pointin That Out. And Pointin The Guy At The Guy Is Useless... Because Unless It Is A Life Or Death Situation... They Can't Use Deadly Force... And Most Suspects Know This... So By The Time The Guy Is Charging You... You Don't Have Time To Go, "Oh, Shit, I Can't Use My Gun... Gotta Put It Away And Bust Out The..." BOOM, He's Already Being Suffocated By The 350+ Pound Guy. See?

^^^
Officers go through training that should make it insticnt to take out legs... and other non-lethal ways of subduing a person...

And to clarify things... I never said a headlock...

Its a chicken wing choke...

It can immobolize persons of any size.

What the fuck do boxers do? lol

And cops are paid to analyze the situation, not beat people to death, thats the criminals job.

If the cop even said chicken wing they would have subdued the fat guy.

^ LMAO!!!!!!!!!

But seriously...

I have a point...

And have been beaten by the police...
They take shit way too far

Well...

Look at it this way...

Yeah, they're beating your ass...

And they're wrong for doing it.

But these cats see shit everyday...

Shit that's gotta be affecting they're psyche.

Dead babies, abused children, battered women, corpses...

Mangled bodies from car wrecks, caused by drunkards...

Probably mangled children.

The murders that drunks and coked up PCP cats are capable of.

I mean, wasn't homeboy rap star/cannibal of his girlfriend...

Under the influence of shit?

So, they probably don't have alot of mercy for the cat who's fucked up and swinging at them.

And using that fucked up state of mind as an excuse for their behavior.

So, they probably take alot of aggresion and pain out on them.

Yeah, it's wrong...

But like I said earlier...

The nature of the beast.

We're human.

We're affected by shit whether we want to be or not.

Despite the training.

^^^

But it doesnt make it anywhere near right...

My ribs still arent right from my encounter with them

What About Boxers? And Yes... Cops Are Paid To Analyze The Situation... Doesn't Mean They Can Everytime. Did You See The Video? They Were All Within Feet Of Each Other. If A Guy Is Swingin At You Tryin To Rip Off Your Head... You Not Goin To Be Swingin DOWN At His Knees. The Police Officers Were In Survival Mode... Just Swinging To Keep Him At Bay. I STILL Don't Believe Unnecessary Excessive Force Was Used. And Chrit... Do You Know EXACTLY What Kind Of Training They Go Through?

I disagree.

...And To Each Person His Own Opinion.



















Even If He's Wrong. :)

Yup.

Your biased because of your brother.

Boxers can analyze where to hit, what kind of of hit to hit with, and when to move, where to move, and they DO IT IN LESS THEN HALF A SECOND.

Extendo bar + knee cap = shattered knee.

You cannot get up without a knee.

^ Yeah you can, you use your arms and other leg. Or maybe prop yourself against a car or something.

For fuck sakes type normally. Sentences one after another, forming a paragraph. I never read your posts because of how they are typed.

Have you ever seen a knee after being hit at full force by the ball of an extendo bar?

Piece's.

Stop being a grammar nazi. He types how he likes to. Why should he change it for you? Hmm?


lol.

And Then You Fucks Would Bitch About Shattered Knee Caps.:thumbup:

LOL @ "Extendo Bar"

Nope. I have never seen that.

I didn't read the whole thread.. Why are you so pro cop violence?

I'm Not "Pro Cop Violence" I'm Anti-Bitch About Police Officers Doing Their Jobs.

I'm sorry, my man...

Ya just gonna have ta keep missing out on my wisdom.

My style is my own.

And I dig it like a grave, duke.

Peace

Axe, have you ever seen an extendo bar?
Don't laugh...

LoL..

:thumbup:

And I think the man would have taken a busted knee cap over death...

Possibly...

You're wisdom is amazing.