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JRoy 02-21-05 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix
they say all this bullshit and how they ahte god and how god mistreated them..


God doesn't mistreat anyone.....GOd gave us all free will...so we can do what ever....also....God doesn't mistreat us....he is love..he gives us all love......your thinkin about Satan who mistreats us....King of Lies.....all of that stupid stuff....he tempts you.....i mean he's been studying man for 3000 years...he knows what your gonna do.....thats why he puts in your head. for example "gods not real dont belive it....all that stuff you just learn its all fake..." well its not fake.......you are three parts.......you have your living flesh,you have your soul and you have your spirit......and the reason most of you dont belive christianity is becuase your soul is filled with all the EVIL and wordly things such as porno and secular music......and god can only be in your spirit so he is blocked out by all the things in your soul that are worldy and against his rules........well try and get more intact with god and go to a retreat like Generation Unleashed........and then........well see what happens..........well........thats my 2 cents for now

distilled 02-21-05 06:39 PM

People have some good views, I'm in sort of the same position as OMB I guess.

Props on this everyone.

Terumoto 02-22-05 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix
i love you but your wrong lol.. Just like Evolution, there are no facts only evidence... i mean, i made my own religion up :D.. Baptists are pretty good and solid.. i dont go for all that u must come to the church bullshit.. ijust take the morals fromt he bible and that IT.. nothing else.. i read the stories also.. the stories and the morals is all i take fromt he bible.. and of course reveleations.. that shit was interesting for real... back to the point.. you cant disprove it, and you cant prove it.. there not enuff facts.. the lack of evidence makes it a beliefe man.. it's EXACTLY like evolution.. You cant prove it 100%, but u cant disprove it either.. buyt so u know OMB, there no facts for either.. just evidence..


and for any fucking smartass or thinks he knows it all comes in here and say some shit about evolution having FACTS.. go do research on wtf a fact is and then eat my dick...cause ur wrong.. A fact is something that is true and cant be proven wrong.. hoe.................(that wasent directed at you OMB lol.. jsut the next fuck who tries to tell me evolution has FACTS....we need to fuckign cypher again omb..)


what ya'll think ?


I think youre absolutely right.... .... .... .... we DO need to cypher again :thumbup: lol

But word i know what youre talking about... You basically like BACKED up my point... which was no religion ive FOUND seems to be true. But I do believe in an ultimate being of SOME kind (a "god" if you will)... and that morals are necessary... The bible IS a historical document after all, its just most religions take it so literally which seems to be an incorrect approach.

Terumoto 02-22-05 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Socrates
Yeah, you're exactly right. God can't just push away the sky and be like "Hey, guys, here I am! Do you believe in me now?" I mean technically he could but the whole religion is based on faith. If when we die, we are proven wrong, I still think it's much better living as a non-believer and coming to find out YOU'RE wrong. ;)


Ill find some more on those 2 gospels later..

But dont you think thats a little "convenient"? A religion based on faith... You have to believe something that cant be proved. I could just as easily pull some shifty shit and forge a dope scripture and be like "hmm this scripture says OMB is god and you have to give him money or you'll turn inside out, yo, if you dont believe it ya doomed, if you do, WHEN you die you'll be hella saved"
How would people prove me wrong? Its based on faith... exactly like somebody saying "jesus is your saviour, believe in him and after death you will be saved and have eternal life." HMMM after death? nobody can confirm it cos dead people are.. well... dead... etc. etc.

distilled 02-22-05 09:51 AM

Exactly.

The Bible was created by man though, and I don't even think half the christians I know truly realise that. Because It is not the wor dof God, It's the word of The early Church, therefore, a bias document. And that is what Christianity is built on.

Logic The Goonie 02-22-05 07:15 PM

Actually it is the word of God written by man. And was NOT created by the early church, lol. It was a little while after Jesus died, not sure of the time but not any later than 200 A.D. I would think.

As for O.M.B. that whole money thing was the Catholic church back in the old days. Has nothing to do with present day Christianity and the Christianity BEFORE the Catholic church. And nothing really needs to be confirmed. Take RV as an example. Before the KORV everyone was pissed because I said I was the best on RV. That was my faith. I believed I was and stood for it. Then I won the tourny and PROVED I was the best on RV because I beat someone, who beat someone and basically proved myself ABOVE almost all of RV in one swing. But no, after I won, and my beliefs were proven, everyone comes with their if's, and's and but's and still don't want to believe it. I'm not gunna switch it up to context of Jesus and God and all that because it should be pretty obvious. But the main idea is there.

JRoy 02-22-05 08:10 PM

actually the bible was written over a period of about 1000 years

Logic The Goonie 02-22-05 08:14 PM

shut up foo. I was just trying to say that the people didn't write it to make people give them their money.

Germ 02-22-05 08:15 PM

but a religion based on faith, i think thats the only way a religion can truly work with mass corruption, needless killing and mass destruction....look at the anarchy in the world today, its bullshit, when you believe in somethin/someone that you know for certain is real, theres not much hope, because at some point its goin to die, and when that happens, thats whole basis in which you believe in will crumble also........so believing in something that is based upon historical texts and stories, i think, makes a little more sense, because then you'll have that faith that it will always be there....just as long as you believe...haha, i dunno, just wanted to make the last part a little flashy, but i stand by what i think....(im not really a profound believer in anything, but thats the way i look at it)wird


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