when i said "white suburbanites" i was sayin that the violence was loved by white teens in suburban areas, it was because they were then finally introduced to hip hop. while many black people were already accustomed to hip hop music while white people in the suburbs were completely oblivious to it because it wasn't on tv, and they just weren't around places where hip hop was originally.

"wen these white suburbanites (for the most part) took no part in the violence associated with hip hop....."

that is not at all what i said, i said that this was when white suburbanites were finally introduced to hip hop, which in many cases, could involve violent lyrics....i didn't say anything about any specific race doing illegal things, YOU DIED....unless, you have a problem reading, i cannot understand where you got that from

Rap soon looked more like white America’s Home Shopping Network than black America’s CNN - High Dro

Dude, are u kiddin me..... everythin u sed in there had this huge undertone of "hip hop was so great and stuff until the white people started listenin to it" .... or is it just coincidental that the first time u mention the downfall of hip hop, u also mention the introduction of white suburban listeners in the same paragraph???

.... and i bring up the thing about african americans (the race thing) because the time period u were speakin about (70s-90s) was wen rap was almost exclusively performed by blacks and you only refer to black artists in ur excerpt, so my assumption that the "gun totin" u were speakin of was related to African Americans, should be fully warranted...

Rap soon looked more like white America’s Home Shopping Network than black America’s CNN - High Dro

Dude, are u kiddin me..... everythin u sed in there had this huge undertone of "hip hop was so great and stuff until the white people started listenin to it" ....

.... and i bring up the thing about african americans because the time period u were speakin about (70s-90s) was wen rap was almost exclusively performed by blacks and you only refer to black artists in ur excerpt, so my assumption that the "gun totin" u were speakin of was related to African Americans should be fully warranted...

I sed that ur thing was very well written man, and maybe it deserved an A, but i was just pointin out that u seemed very biased and shoulda atleast MENTIONED that the use of violence was not only in relation with white kids bein introduced and to entertain them (or was hopin u had mentioned it somewhere in ur paper).... cuz even wen writing an opinion paper, mentionin the other side can be used very greatly to ur advantage.... Especially since the violence was used to appeal to the black ghetto's of the world because accordin to many of those inhabitants, a gun and a dime bag showed "credibility," that ur livin the "culture" as that was and is a major part of it throughout its lifetime....... why do u think NWA went around yellin "Fuck the Police" when only one of them (Eazy-E) had a criminal record???.... (and Eazy-E's charge wasnt even a felony, and i dont believe he was convicted either)

it just so happened that white people started listening to it when it went mainstream...i'm not blaming white people for how it went, i'm blaming the fact that it went mainstream

Dope job..I was impreseed...a little

werd...........

It was good.

But white's were listening and living hip hop before it went mainstream... Usually not as rappers, but as DJ's, artists and bboys. You seem to only be discussing the music side of things, which is NOT hip hop, its rap. Rap wasn't soiled until like 10-20 years after hip hop's birth... Or even later. Run DMC was real, they didn't talk shit and they made money for it. And even cats in the 90's stayed real... Just cos gangsta rap is their style doesn't mean they're ruining hip hop, it's just another branch of rap... Nowadays rap is getting fucked on in the mainstream because people are just in it for money and are NOT real...

Hip hop as a culture started to lose its integrity when it got commercialised in the 80's by the media... TV shows, commercials, movies (like beat street and flashdance) caused an influx of dudes into the culture. The people who were real and original hip hop heads didn't like this abuse of their culture... Thus, hip hop branched into underground and mainstream... theres no black or white about it.

In that excerpt from your essay, it's like you're saying everything was all good until gangsta rap came along and ruined hip hop because it made white suburbanites wanna listen.... Gotta get ya facts straight n' shit.

you think i could cough up some rv cash for an essay in the future? :)

no...fuck rv cash, son