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∆ P E X X 07-26-05 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Tha Q.
ahhhhh...but here's the problem with your "arguments"


#1...Boyles Laws...laws of inert gases and anything regarding AIR is a moot point...you can apply a law to anything you choose to apply it to...My argument is that Boyles Laws applies to "somthing" that has been experienced that you all call AIR...But, can you prove that "air" exists? No one can truly see air. You can not see atoms. Therefore, you don't know it exists. All you know exists is something that exibits some characteritics of matter that people have arbitrarily decided to call "air"...If you correlate this to ghosts, then I can argue that at least people have claimed to "see" them...People have "felt" it...and people use various meters and monitors to measure paranormal--read: energy--activity...So, air only exists by definition only...A paranormal psychologist has every right to claim ghosts exists based on YOUR argument...that they've SEEN IT...that they have instruments that MEASURE it...that they see evidence of it's PRESENCE...




#2...You missed my point on this one...Word of mouth isn't what I was discrediting...I'm saying that even if I go to South Africa, that doesn't Prove it exists...that only proves that I experience "something" that has been called "South Africa"...If JOHN DOE has never been outside of bumfuck Lousiana and believes me, then he is dumb. If he travels to South Africa, then he can make the argument that it exists...But, that doesn't PROVE it exists...Therefore, how can you say people who claim to have "experienced" ghosts are vaild?...If that's the case, then I can say people who "claim" to have seen or been to South Africa are invalid and are suffering from some induced hysteria...

The facts are evident: people experience many things that they interpret in different ways...U can always define laws to validate a point you're trying to prove...Im just saying DON'T discredit someone who's experienced something that you haven't had the opportunity to yet...for what it's worth...which is all

JUST

RELATIVE.


thank you very much


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1 :sigh: wrong agiain. Soemthin becmeos a LAW because it's proven to exist and be a real force. Weather you call it "air" or you call it "ogabooga" t's still real and is documented. Also, again you're wrong. Atoms can be seen with an electron microscope. Read a god damn book. Ghosts how ever have absoltely no proof of existing at all. SOULS however do, which is probably what you're thinking, but as far as a spirit entity that has a physical bearing in this world, there is none.

2 Man you're sounding liek a straifght up retard now and you're falling back on the same argument many weak-minded clowns such as your self do. You're now trying to argue that someone can go to a physical place and it's still not "real"....Just think about that. But your argument is stil based on the "Ultimate Cop-out" which is "How can you prove ANYTHING exists?" which you can't. So what's the point of even having a discussion where you're trying to get to some basis or fact if nothing can be proven. This is why FACTOLOGISTS don't argue with THEOLOGISTS. And to not accept a fact liek the existance of a physical place is what's known as "ignorance".

PS, that sig is cute considering that not a single person in any of these threads agrees with anything you said, lol. Try again.

Bangalore 07-26-05 10:41 PM

well for those of you in cities i bet you have all seen a grown up pigeon... but have you ever seen a baby pigeon?

Crazy Hades 07-26-05 10:50 PM

I bet Chalk would have no better time spent then coming to South Carolina to beat up a thirteen year old talking trash on the internet. Sorry if I'm not frightened because you can go to jail. And you probably broke your finger playing with dolls.

But yeah, case closed.

Crazy Hades 07-26-05 10:54 PM

I saw some on TV once, so that proves they exist.

TeamOne 07-27-05 12:34 AM

Q dog........ im sorry but u lost....... There is a fuckin reason a LAW is called a LAW and not a THEORY... u can discredit a theory, but u cant discredit a LAW..... there is no way around it.... and i thank god Dooms brought up that point cuz i wouldve....

Also, if the area common day people call "South Africa" didnt exist..... than first off South America (the most souther part) would experience the greatest tidal waves on the eastern shore, this world has ever known... great for crazy surf dudes! And i would hope that Dave Chappelle wasnt so high that he vacationed to a fake place to rethink his life or w/e the fuck, and make me miss some more charlie murphy and playa hatin

Bangalore 07-27-05 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by lyricalflowz
I've seen ghosts before though. lol


albinos don't count

.Ike. 07-27-05 12:43 AM

oh my god............................

~Lady Fiya~ 07-27-05 12:57 AM

They do exist i seen ghosts before... as a child and lately, they look like regular people who can't fucking talk.

In my old house, some guy died.. i had a dream he had 2 daughters, a dog and he didn't have a wife from what i saw.. i woke up and saw him standin above me while i was lying in the bed.. and every night he'd walk back and forth around my bed.. So i moved my bed and he stayed in that area for some reason.. then he left for a good week and one night i said my prayers and went to sleep.. and i felt something touch my leg and thighs.. i thought it was nothing, i was just trippin, this dude snatched me off the bed and i hit the floor hard. So i torn up pieces of an old bible and put it around my bed and everytime me and this dude would start fightin, i'd say something like this ain't your room no more, and start recitin Bible verses, he get pissed and start goin at me, and i'd be shouting verses and threatening the ghost all thru the night.. sayin stuff like greater is "He that is in me, i rebuke in the name of Jesus, go somewhere else i ain't scared of you" to a point where my ma was like oh hell naw, time to leave this house.. I wasn't givin up my bedroom for a dead thing and wasn't bout to get violated by a ghost... not to mention spiritual warfare is no joke. That's another rainy day.

You can't tell me ghosts aren't real, after i done seen them bitter ones that was enuff. Those who haven't experienced encounters with ghosts and such, just be glad.

∆ P E X X 07-27-05 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by ~Lady Fiya~
They do exist i seen ghosts before... as a child and lately, they look like regular people who can't fucking talk.

In my old house, some guy died.. i had a dream he had 2 daughters, a dog and he didn't have a wife from what i saw.. i woke up and saw him standin above me while i was lying in the bed.. and every night he'd walk back and forth around my bed.. So i moved my bed and he stayed in that area for some reason.. then he left for a good week and one night i said my prayers and went to sleep.. and i felt something touch my leg and thighs.. i thought it was nothing, i was just trippin, this dude snatched me off the bed and i hit the floor hard. So i torn up pieces of an old bible and put it around my bed and everytime me and this dude would start fightin, i'd say something like this ain't your room no more, and start recitin Bible verses, he get pissed and start goin at me, and i'd be shouting verses and threatening the ghost all thru the night.. sayin stuff like greater is "He that is in me, i rebuke in the name of Jesus, go somewhere else i ain't scared of you" to a point where my ma was like oh hell naw, time to leave this house.. I wasn't givin up my bedroom for a dead thing and wasn't bout to get violated by a ghost... not to mention spiritual warfare is no joke. That's another rainy day.

You can't tell me ghosts aren't real, after i done seen them bitter ones that was enuff. Those who haven't experienced encounters with ghosts and such, just be glad.



lol, right. Not hat I don't feel that you honestly believe that's what you saw and felt, but I don't think that you really saw and felt that. No one has any infaliable evidence that "ghosts" exist beyond their hearsay. There's never a recorded instance of anything liek that ever. Just people saying "I saw it!!". No physical scars, wounds, bruises, etc. Nothing ot show anything that would indicate any contact. PEople been saying ghosts are real for at least 800 years now and there's still no proof. That should tell you something.

Key... 07-27-05 01:33 AM

Wow so ghosts dont exist..damn...

But am a GhosT Writer

*Awaits for more sarcasm*

~Lady Fiya~ 07-27-05 01:43 AM

see i have to disagree, i had a reddish brown bruise on my thigh from hittin the hard floor when that happened to me... and no one just flies off the bed and damage themselves to a point where they get a bruise.. did i record it, no.. i didn't expect to get tossed off a soft Queen sized bed by something only me and my brother had seen in that house.. do some people exaggerate most likely.. there's not always a scientific explanation to everything. I know what i saw and i'm far from any mental problems and such.. it's one of those things where you believe it, when it happens to you. you can think i'm lyin and writin all this for the hell of it, but i'm tellin what's from my experience... but y'all can go on with y'all regular discussion. I just said my relation to part of that. And I'm tired as hell. I'll holla tomorrow or something.

∆ P E X X 07-27-05 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by ~Lady Fiya~
see i have to disagree, i had a reddish brown bruise on my thigh from hittin the hard floor when that happened to me... and no one just flies off the bed and damage themselves to a point where they get a bruise.. did i record it, no.. i didn't expect to get tossed off a soft Queen sized bed by something only me and my brother had seen in that house.. do some people exaggerate most likely.. there's not always a scientific explanation to everything. I know what i saw and i'm far from any mental problems and such.. it's one of those things where you believe it, when it happens to you. you can think i'm lyin and writin all this for the hell of it, but i'm tellin what's from my experience... but y'all can go on with y'all regular discussion. I just said my relation to part of that. And I'm tired as hell. I'll holla tomorrow or something.



that's exactly the point. you got a bruise form THE FLOOR, not the "ghost". Anything that coulda pushed/pulled you hard enough to get you to the ground would have def left a bruise on you directly. And once agian, I don't think you're lying, I just fele that you're wholeheartedly convinced that this is what you saw and experienced when it may not have.

~Lady Fiya~ 07-27-05 01:56 AM

Aight i get what you saying, i'm too tired to continue the convo lol.. i'm officially done wit this for now, have a good nite.
~Lady

Key... 07-27-05 02:05 AM

Damn ma why didnt u call me when that ish happened?

schema 07-27-05 02:18 AM

tha q...you know you lost when youre arguing that elements and countries dont exist...

your last two posts are some of the stupidest shit ive ever seen posted anywhere in my entire life...

theres not really anything i could say that dooms hasnt already said...but cmon man...when you get to the point of arguing "well what if nobody exists except me and im just hallucinating the whole world" you need to realize that youve lost the argument and quit posting...

youre just making yourself look crazy and invalidating your future arguments...

live to fight another day man...its over...


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