Originally Posted by Vango

Okay so I agree text is gay especially if you ever graced a real mike. But just for arguments sake lets say your text battling, without using wordplay, sigs, past battles, history, what do you have left for punches?

Originally Posted by Nostradamus

Buddy, let me be the first to talk some reality to you.

YOU WILL NOT ELEVATE FROM WRITING CRAPPY TEXT PUNCHLINES...
Half the time they have horrible flow, one syllable rhyme schemes, bad attempts at jokes or pathetic 'hard to decypher' concepts with bad wording.. How do you honestly think writing this is going to help you elevate in writing rap lyrics?

Pick up some beats and start writing multis and try your hardest to write stuff that is as good as what professional rappers write.. Listen to a lot of music and understand how they word their bars and set out their verses, then create a style that incorperates good wording, multi syllable rhyme schemes and lyrics that people would actually want to hear over beats...

If you put your mind to it, practice your ass off and remember to always quietly rap your stuff to beats to make sure they flow well... You will slowly build up a style and notice vast improvements in your writing. Unless ofcourse you dont have what it takes mentally to be a good lyricist which a lot of people dont... Even audio rappers, a lot of the time, just dont have the talent to become anything greater than hobby emcees.. But atleast if you drop your shitty text styles and go for a more well rounded actual rap style of writing lyrics, you will elevate to whatever point you are able to elevate to..

Writing text actually will only end up fucking your style around and a lot of textees who think they are lyrical gods seriously dont have as much going for them as they would like to think. Plus they usually have only one style of lyric writing... Not all... Just 99%..

Elevate properly dude... Broarden your perspective..
Text is only for people who rap as a hobby and enjoy the competition.. Dont lie to yourself.... Text battling does not elevate anyone in a good way.. Textees only elevate to being 'better textees'.. Not better rappers..

Originally Posted by Deranged

disses...just random disses outta no where.And yes...there is a difference between a diss and punchline.Without wordplay or personals..then there is no punchline..so it's a diss.Hence...the reason using no wordplay or personals in text is lame n boring.

Originally Posted by Nostradamus

I covered this in a previous post in this thread..

"Text is for people who just write as a hobby and shit"

I said something like that if you read my posts..

Originally Posted by Vango

Okay so I agree text is gay especially if you ever graced a real mike. But just for arguments sake lets say your text battling, without using wordplay, sigs, past battles, history, what do you have left for punches?

Originally Posted by Deranged

Before I start..lemme just say...I DO THINK AUDIO IS BETTER THAN TEXT.But i dissagree with some of your statements above.

1-Ur wrong about that part where you claim text doesn't help you elevate.Nowadays..when I read my verses on this site from when i first started..i cringe and say to myself.."wtf wuz I thinking?".And when you cringe at ur old work..then that is a sign of elevation.Also..Not to mention..it's expanded my vocab..and really helped my flow a lot.Cause when i first started..i used a basic rhyme scheme.Now..I use multis and shit a lot.And thx to text(mostly in cyphers where we key up shit tho)..I finnaly know how to freestyle in real life.Only part you were right about in that 1st paragraph..wuz the part where you said cats use basic rhyme schemes a lot.I agree with that 100%.But text does help you elevate.

NOW..I have a big problem with the rest of ur post.One question I have for you is..

Why are you trying to tell someone else how to run their shit?If that person wants to do text..then let em.And if you think text is gay and audio is cool..then go do your audio and be.Just don't critize someone else doing their own thing.U were bassically TELLING that person to drop the text and do this and that.Which is bassically telling that person to do wat u do cuz wat u are doing is right and the other guy is doing is wrong.When i don't think you should do that.Your no god at this rapping or nothing.

Originally Posted by Doomsday

AAAAAAAHAHAH. WTF is that shit? Good times...

Originally Posted by Nostradamus

In audio you use all of those aspects, but in a more personal way.

Textees do little joke bars which is cause they usually dont know their oponent very well, which is a big reason why text is so gay and wont help you elavate.. Cause when it comes time in every emcees career that they gotta diss dudes, if theyve elevated at dissing by text? HAHAHAHAHA @ how embarrasingly pathetic their diss is going to be nit-picking at small aspects and making silly little joke bars. Hence... Text is pointless to anyone who wants to actually rap..


I said that text will help you elevate to being A BETTER TEXTEE.. Not a better rapper.. You said yourself you mainly learnt from writing in cyphers most likly from writing with people who had good multis and gave you better ideas of how to set up bars or whatever..

Textees elevate in bad ways dude.. Its not untill they pick up a mic and start making songs that they realise where their going wrong and some still dont realise thinking their text is actually going to make for ill raps... Which is a complete joke, but it happens. That dude said he used text to elevate, yes I was telling him that if he is serious about rap, get the fuck away from text and do audios.. What was implied and what I think you might of missed, is that if text is just a hobby, then by all means, stay doing ya thing.. But dont take on the mindframe that its going to make you an ill lyric writer in rap terms..


I know right? I seriously dont know how these RB kids get ego's.. But the dude that wrote that is a well respected topical writer who was getting respect for his verse on that occaision IN THE FINAL MATCH OF A TOURNIE... Shit is a complete joke; RB needs some serious sense slapped into them..

Originally Posted by One Man Band

that like stupid punches...

How does it hurt your opponents feelings by using their name, song names, people theyve battled, user title, sig, etc etc in shit punches?

its so annoying. its not even wordplay, or nameplay or anything... and they almost always sound forced...

in fact ima go look in EFL right now on a few recent battles.. i bet theyll all have some kind of shit thing.. no offense to these people by the way


technical vs status
came to piss on you fools, I'm da best, wonder why u 'gassed', cuz u 'aint shit' (think)
yall life goals is aimless, while my STATUS is known to get my balls in holes like Naismith!..lol

^it would have been the same with something different there... having his name in it doesnt mean shit


King Solo vs Young Blaze
This bitch ain’t a young blaze, he lacks that fiery component
Cuz my rhymes ‘rain down on him’,
………………………………SHIT! Now I’ve got no opponent!!

^real forced. if he lacks the fiery component, why would it matter if he got rained on?


Daubs vs Kon.Tay.Juz
You wouldnt be Kon.Tay.Juz...if you were taken ill with chicken-pox..
And your punches are packed with pussy....like watchin a kitten box..

^why would he want to be contagious... how is that a punch? I get it with the being ill and all so its contagious yada yada, but thats mad played.


Basically those kinds of punches either dont make sense, suck, or are played... The reason im made this thread is to let you know.. because every battle I look in has some of these...