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.Ike. 11-07-05 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Triple_N
I agree...I was conversating wit a friend a mine about this.....u find alot of katz really obsessed wit lyrics....have wack flow, an no delivery or presence.......basically the knock on lyricists is they dun kno how to entertain...an entermainment is a big part of music.....BUT rap is a artform first an foremost...an what makes u a good rapper, we not even talking great...jus to be a good one........u gotta have a combination of flow, delivery, presence, an good lyrics.....if u missing any of those aspects....u aint a rapper period.


word.....................

Zone Out 11-07-05 01:34 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Triple_N
I agree...I was conversating wit a friend a mine about this.....u find alot of katz really obsessed wit lyrics....have wack flow, an no delivery or presence.......basically the knock on lyricists is they dun kno how to entertain...an entermainment is a big part of music.....BUT rap is a artform first an foremost...an what makes u a good rapper, we not even talking great...jus to be a good one........u gotta have a combination of flow, delivery, presence, an good lyrics.....if u missing any of those aspects....u aint a rapper period.

actually
if you rap
then you're a rapper.

Past Tense 11-07-05 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Will S.Unyu
actually
if you rap
then you're a rapper.

waiting for Trips 30000 char. response on what he thinks a rapper is

Key... 11-07-05 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Invektive
u know what...im tired of this bull shit.....kids judge rapper by lyrics and lyrics alone.....

id rather listen to Ja Rule........than the dopest lyricist in the world who has no presence, delivery, or good flow
.....



So you saying Talib, Mos Def, Black Thought, KRS1 Etc Has no flow in other words?
Indepht lyrics against Club for example like Nelly shit.....C'mon Homeboi

Triple_N 11-07-05 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Will S.Unyu
If you dont consider these lyrics, then I dont know what the hell are

I get down for my grandfather who took my momma
Made her sit that seat where white folks aint wanna us to eat
At the tender age of 6 she was arrested for the sit in
With that in my blood i was born to be different
Now niggas can't make it to ballots to choose leadership
But we can make it to Jacob and to the dealership

That's why I hear new music
And i jus dont be feelin it
Racism still alive they jus be consealin it
But i know they don't want me in the damn club
They even made me show I.D to get inside of Sam's club[
I did dirt and went to church to get my hands scrubbed
Swear I've been baptised at least 3 or 4 times
But in the land where nigga's praise
Yukons and getting paid
It gon take a lot more than coupons to get us saved
Like it take a lot more than do-rags to get your waves

Notin sadder than that day my girl father past away
So i promised to MR.rany i'm gonna marry your daughter
And u know i gotta thank u for they way that she was brought up
And i know that u were smiling when u see that car i bought her
And u sent tears from heaven when u seen my car get balled up
But i can't complaint what the accident did to my left eye
Cuz look what a accident did to left eye

First Aaliyah and now romeo must die
I know a got angels watchin me from the other side

I even took the liberty of boldin the "quotables" even though the entire verse is dope and filled to the brim with lyrics, and his emotion and delivery is remarkable.


Like I originally said "u aren't musically educated enuff to know what tru lyrical talent is"......I will lightly explain jus to see what u come back at me wit cuz I know I'm wasting my time but its sunday night so I'll entertain u for a lil while.....

Now niggas can't make it to ballots to choose leadership
But we can make it to Jacob and to the dealership


I respect the message but u dun get more basic or uninspired then this^^^

Racism still alive they jus be consealin it
^^^this is a joke right?....thats a quoteable to u?

They even made me show I.D to get inside of Sam's club
^^^yea and?.....what is lyrically creative about that?...if he was telling u a story about what happened in his day, he would have said it the exact same way.

It gon take a lot more than coupons to get us saved
Like it take a lot more than do-rags to get your waves

^^^finally u quoted something creative...but quoteable? no...its a very basic metaphor not impressive at all

But i can't complaint what the accident did to my left eye
Cuz look what a accident did to left eye
First Aaliyah and now romeo must die

^^^^again nothing impressive....an again kanye rhyming the same words...an he used a movie title to refer to that kat from steve harvey show dat got popped,...are u kidding me?........this is as good as rap gets your telling me?......No rapper in the history of rap can top lines like this? :huh:

Zone Out 11-07-05 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by DeadlyVision
So you saying Talib, Mos Def, Black Thought, KRS1 Etc Has no flow in other words?
Indepht lyrics against Club for example like Nelly shit.....C'mon Homeboi

actually, Talib, Mos Deg, Black Thought, Krs 1 etc has flow.

Key... 11-07-05 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Will S.Unyu
actually, Talib, Mos Deg, Black Thought, Krs 1 etc has flow.



So it is about indepht lyrics!! there you go.

Triple_N 11-07-05 01:48 AM

[QUOTE=Will S.Unyu]actually
if you rap
then you're a rapper.[/QUOT

Actually your right.....but judging from your musical taste, you dun know what rap is :thumbup:

Blay'all 11-07-05 01:49 AM

meh, I dunno Trip you might be over-analyzing that shit... I mean what do you expect, that is a dope verse... it REALLY isnt as basic as you make it out to be... I bet if that came from a different rapper you'd have a different opinion, but you've already got an opinion formed of Kanye in your head.

.Ike. 11-07-05 01:50 AM

no i said that id rather listen to ja rule...than someone that has good lyrics...but doesnt have flow, presence, delivery...

i didnt say id rather listen to ja than to talib.....

Triple_N 11-07-05 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Wreckin Ball Kid
waiting for Trips 30000 char. response on what he thinks a rapper is



Yea I know man, that damn trip sure can type...huh?

TeamOne 11-07-05 01:52 AM

triple........ y would he say "they made me show id to get inside of sams club" in a conversation?? unless he was tryna make a joke, theres no way he would say that in normal life

w/e any of yall say....... Kanye West has mad rap music.... well, MUSIC.... theres melodies and singin, and omg.... actual notes.... most rappers, now and previously would just put thoughts to a beat that they didnt even create.... and their hooks would be some kind of chant, or somethin that seemed to flow nice to the beat....... kanye has created actual music... maybe art is poetry/an artform...... but alot of it isnt music...

.Ike. 11-07-05 01:52 AM

geez @ kids blowing this thread outta proportion...

it was only meant to let people know that they need to elevate other things...besides just focusing on lyrics...

Past Tense 11-07-05 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Triple_N
Yea I know man, that damn trip sure can type...huh?

yup..and i love it too...cuz you always give teh best feedback...

u should get up on yahoo so i can hit u up

Key... 11-07-05 01:53 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Invektive
no i said that id rather listen to ja rule...than someone that has good lyrics...but doesnt have flow, presence, delivery...

i didnt say id rather listen to ja than to talib.....


Its your taste cuz not every1 has the same taste


U prolly like club joints better than Indepht Lyricism


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