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ConPsy 11-13-05 02:06 AM

Eminem is not the fucking greatest. There is no greatest in rap.

Magic5 11-13-05 02:47 AM

Yeah, I never said he was the best, but he's still a legend. And lmao @ the sole idea that Tupac is the best. Dude is the most overrated rapper ever.

But, if you really don't think Eminem is a legend you should uhh.. not think that! YEAH!

chip 11-13-05 03:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Mimesis
Yeah, I never said he was the best, but he's still a legend. And lmao @ the sole idea that Tupac is the best. Dude is the most overrated rapper ever.

But, if you really don't think Eminem is a legend you should uhh.. not think that! YEAH!


i'd agree that he gets a lot of hype, but most of it is deserved...... no one can deny that he did some crazy stuff with words, while making his songs something we could relate to......... even if he did get a little too much credit, out of respect for him dying, he's still one of the greatest rappers when it comes to his particular style.......

CaSiNoVaZ 11-13-05 04:59 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by A'Cred
I mean seriously, he has the greatest lyrics EVER heard. He has underground and mainstream success. He's original, has humor, storytelling, and the best delivery/flow/ anything in the game. I've tried my BEST to figure out why people can say he's wack. Please humor me on how he's not the best. PLEASE.



I couldn't agree with you more.

He's probably the greatest lyricist Iv'e heard. If he continues to do his good shit, unlike the song about asses and everything, he would probably be my favorite MC.

Compose 11-13-05 05:03 PM

Werd...I'm not saying hes the goat cuz theres different styles that go to different people...

but Fidel all im saying is hes a legend, all his positive attributes outshine his negative tremendously, thats why I dont touch on them more cuz he was only wack for like a year or 2, hes been dope his whole life besides those few years.

M.C. Streak 11-13-05 05:10 PM

How is he the best is the better quesion but to answer yours the main reason is albums...his first 2 or 3 albums are overrated as hell you could make your case that SSLP and MMLP are classics but at the same time you can make your case they aren't but if you think about illmatic, ready to die, 36 chambers, paid in full etc. those SCREAM classic, matter of fact Immortal Technique's last album>>>any eminem album but eminem is still better. Eminem show is above average and extremely overrated most of it is average sogns with some really hot songs here and there and Encore is trash if you deny that you are a dickrider. It's all opinion but I mean if you think Eminem is the best I question your knowledge of Hip Hop as well as your race.

Indeph 11-13-05 05:13 PM

What the fuck?!?!!? ARe you fuckin kidding me? Question my knowledge of hip hop? I know more then you can even fuckin imagine. And don't try to catogorize me, I'm black and I can think any way I want. Sorry If I prefer humor, multis, and content over some bullshit "gime the loot gime the loot" over and over again. Fuck you. You don't know half the shit I know. Its called personal oppinion.

Indeph 11-13-05 05:17 PM

And another thing, eminem is like the only mainstream rapper that isnt talking about drugs and guns. And I'm probably the only person here that doesnt support drugs or guns. Most of the songs off the infinite album I relate to. Listen to its ok and then talk. I'm not all uppity to "prove my blackness". Wtf if I smoked and was a drug dealer would I be black then?

M.C. Streak 11-13-05 05:20 PM

Damn you don't have to get homotional over all that and if it's personal opinion it's cool and you don't know how much I know if eminem is your favorite is cool but if your actually trying to be unbiased and all your just being stupid Ready to Die>>>>>>>>>>>eminem's whole career. Eminem is like op 5 flows but he's not getting even top 5 ever with an average record catalogue and if your idea of humor is just lose it etc. i feel ba for u

Quote:
Originally Posted by lyricalflows
He's not the greatest because Tupac is.

you obviously say that because other people do...

Quote:
Originally Posted by cdusit
There is no greatest in rap.

Best post in the thread.

ConPsy 11-13-05 05:22 PM

wtf @ this entire blind thread.

I gotta go with Y's... You cant judge someone on certain aspects then give them a label.

thast like the way 2pac was judged on the bad shit he done and made to look like a fuckign menace.. when really he was helping.

A'cred.. you say he isnt rapping about uns and drugs.. WTF bro?

latest shit at the so called peak of his career.

" im a drama setter i get my barretta blah blah blah "

You cant look at what he done at the start and judge him on that.... you gotta look at the entire thing......

He desevres his respect, he done moregood than wack shit..but the wack shit he done is unreversable.

Compose 11-13-05 05:22 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by M.C. Streak
How is he the best is the better quesion but to answer yours the main reason is albums...his first 2 or 3 albums are overrated as hell you could make your case that SSLP and MMLP are classics but at the same time you can make your case they aren't but if you think about illmatic, ready to die, 36 chambers, paid in full etc. those SCREAM classic, matter of fact Immortal Technique's last album>>>any eminem album but eminem is still better. Eminem show is above average and extremely overrated most of it is average sogns with some really hot songs here and there and Encore is trash if you deny that you are a dickrider. It's all opinion but I mean if you think Eminem is the best I question your knowledge of Hip Hop as well as your race.

Race has nothing to do with someone thinking Eminem is the best or not =/ its just an opinion...and Immortal Technique IS dope, but you cant compare him to Eminem because they both have completely different styles and approaches in Hip Hop, same shit with Illmatic and Paid in Full...they're completely different from MMLP you cant compare them.

peace

Indeph 11-13-05 05:22 PM

Aight the only reason I got all emotional is because you said you question my race. That's bullshit. How is my choice of music gonna determine my race? Shit fuck black people.

M.C. Streak 11-13-05 05:22 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by A'Cred
And another thing, eminem is like the only mainstream rapper that isnt talking about drugs and guns. And I'm probably the only person here that doesnt support drugs or guns. Most of the songs off the infinite album I relate to. Listen to its ok and then talk. I'm not all uppity to "prove my blackness". Wtf if I smoked and was a drug dealer would I be black then?

I never even mentioned that and I'm not black OR white, my questioning of your race is motly people who are so mbadly dickriding em ar peopel who are white even rock fans feel the dude I have respect for the dude and all but he isn't the way you see him and so what if he doesnt promote drugs or guns or not it's not what you rap about it's how you do it.

Lyriclesolja 11-13-05 05:23 PM

because he's white and raps thats why.....(No Offence to anyone)

Indeph 11-13-05 05:23 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cdusit
wtf @ this entire blind thread.

I gotta go with Y's... You cant judge someone on certain aspects then give them a label.

thast like the way 2pac was judged on the bad shit he done and made to look like a fuckign menace.. when really he was helping.

A'cred.. you say he isnt rapping about uns and drugs.. WTF bro?

latest shit at the so called peak of his career.

" im a drama setter i get my barretta blah blah blah "

You cant look at what he done at the start and judge him on that.... you gotta look at the entire thing......

He desevres his respect, he done moregood than wack shit..but the wack shit he done is unreversable.



Nah he makes a good note that he's joking around. All the other rappers are trying to prove that they're real.


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