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Enygma 11-12-05 04:38 PM

Yeah.....I gotta agree with you on that part about people spending all their time in the studio and only coming up with like trhee mediocre tracks....My advice is to put in writing how much time they will get in the studio for free. If they want more time, it will come out of their cut. Also........listen to Dooms....lol. He sounds like he knows what he's talking about :thumbup:™

∆ P E X X 11-12-05 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by enygma
Yeah.....I gotta agree with you on that part about people spending all their time in the studio and only coming up with like trhee mediocre tracks....My advice is to put in writing how much time they will get in the studio for free. If they want more time, it will come out of their cut. Also........listen to Dooms....lol. He sounds like he knows what he's talking about :thumbup:™



word. I'd say speak to Phenom also, because that's one of the only cats on this board that I'd vouch for that's actually making REAL moves, not progressing form text to audio and think's he picking up speed, lol. A lot of other cats, I really cant' say for sure if they're doing or really know anything that'll get them anywhere on the business side of all this, and that's being real.

JPoll 11-12-05 05:00 PM

CREATIVE CONTROL is the major aspect.

Blay'all 11-12-05 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Tha Q.
Entrepreneur business, of course...

FUCK slavery

lol .

Tha Q. 11-12-05 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Apexx
I think he's asking what would be a signing package. That's the first thing he said, then he started talking about all this free shit, man that's a great way to go out of business FAST. Free studio time? That'll encourage an artist to spend all day in that bitch while another artist makes no progress. People appreciate shit more and work much harder at it whne they have something on the line. You gotta rmemeber that Q is at the core a netcee trying to go 'big', so there's a LOT of absolute BULLSHIT that he has to un-learn - bullshit that gets circulated by mofos that don't know jack shit, right here on the net. "Free" being one of them. The fact that he said "free" and not "recoupable" says a fuck load about what he dosen't know about the music business, and asking dudes in middle and high school who are still wrestling with school shit what an offering (the thing he calls a 'signing package') would be when you should be talking to an entertainment lawyer and having them draft up the paperwork. A Music law book would be the bare minimum. This would be a typical contract for an indie label which is not much at all like a mainstream contract.

But of course Q is far too ignorant to ever directly ASK me for anything or actually say "wow, good looks". What do I know? lmao.



#1...I'm not ignorant...

#2...I did say RECOUP...I said that I'd recoup expenses from the artists...

but yea...I've got plenty of books thanx to LV and the local library...

I'm reading up on ish


P.S. When you eventually DO say something valubale Dooms, I DO give you props...so sto exaggerating...



nuff said...

Tha Q. 11-12-05 05:28 PM

P.S. I've posted about 5 threads asking for advice...If you know something...drop it...If you don't...move along...Phenom, U, Leady, and a few others have dropped some pretty decent to good advice...I'm also talking to local artists who actually perform in the D.C. area...So, I'm getting a wide perspective on things...trust me


I'm not a fool.

∆ P E X X 11-12-05 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Tha Q.
#1...I'm not ignorant...

#2...I did say RECOUP...I said that I'd recoup expenses from the artists...

but yea...I've got plenty of books thanx to LV and the local library...

I'm reading up on ish


P.S. When you eventually DO say something valubale Dooms, I DO give you props...so sto exaggerating...



nuff said...


You don't even understand that what you're talking about is illegal LMAO. You can't "recoup expenses from their profits" is called "stealing" unless it's a law suit. READ BITCH!! YOU DONT' KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AND DON'T KNOW JACK SHIT ABOUT MUSIC LAW OR THE ENTERTAINMENT BUSINESS!!

Thanks.

Tha Q. 11-12-05 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Apexx
You don't even understand that what you're talking about is illegal LMAO. You can't "recoup expenses from their profits" is called "stealing" unless it's a law suit. READ BITCH!! YOU DONT' KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AND DON'T KNOW JACK SHIT ABOUT MUSIC LAW OR THE NETERTAINMENT BUSINESS!!

Thanks.



Okay...then I'll learn...wuts the big deal...there's no need to be negative...u talk about why don't I directly ask u shit...maybe it's cuz ur a raging asshole :thumbup:


neway...I have books I'm reading now...so, yea...w/e

∆ P E X X 11-12-05 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Tha Q.
P.S. I've posted about 5 threads asking for advice...If you know something...drop it...If you don't...move along...Phenom, U, Leady, and a few others have dropped some pretty decent to good advice...I'm also talking to local artists who actually perform in the D.C. area...So, I'm getting a wide perspective on things...trust me


I'm not a fool.



Nah, you speak like you know, like "yeah, this is what I'm gonna do!" when you have about 15% of the info you need to get started. Stop. When you think you know it all, relaize that you don't, then go read some more and learn what really counts. Not jsut what you want to hear on the surface that's gonna cave in in the long run since it's missing important pieces. I see dudes do this literally daily. They make moves without really looking into what they really should be watching our for and what they needed to open certain doors, etc. Take your time and R.E.A.D. That's all. You'll look into something and read probably about 10-15% before you're like "YEAH, I'M GONNA DO THIS FULL STEAM AHEAD!!" and not realize why it won't work the way you thought it would. I seen you do it MANY times and that's just here on the board.

But at the end of the day, what do I give a shit? lol, that's the REAL issue here.

Tha Q. 11-12-05 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Apexx
Nah, you speak like you know, like "yeah, this is what I'm gonna do!" when you have about 15% of the info you need to get started. Stop. When you think you know it all, relaize that you don't, then go read some more and learn what really counts. Not jsut what you want to hear on the surface that's gonna cave in in the long run since it's missing important pieces. I see dudes do this literally daily. They make moves without really looking into what they really should be watching our for and what they needed to open certain doors, etc. Take your time and R.E.A.D. That's all. You'll look into something and read probably about 10-15% before you're like "YEAH, I'M GONNA DO THIS FULL STEAM AHEAD!!" and not realize why it won't work the way you thought it would. I seen you do it MANY times and that's just here on the board.

But at the end of the day, what do I give a shit? lol, that's the REAL issue here.




When I say "I'm going to do this"...It's long term goals...There was no plan laid out, YET. I've made statements like "I WILL SIGN PEOPLE."...That's positive thinking...I realize there's more to it than just "signing" someone...That's why I haven't signed anyone who's asked me...And, what are you talking about I read something 15% of the way?...I don't think you know what you're talking about there...But, knock yaself out...I'm not gonna sit here and kiss your ass because you think you know it all...I value knowledge and I soak it in...I may not grovel and kiss your ass like some people on this board...But, good information has and will be put to good use...What more do you want, a biscuit?...I'm not tryna be passive aggressive here, but I think you're on some negative shit dawg...Someone is trying to do something..FUCK THAT...someone IS DOING SOMETHING and you want to shoot their shit down before it even gets off the ground...That's just like black folk...Crab Mentality...LV, Leady, Phenom, even Intermental have been real about it...and I appreciate it...I'm reading up on it...I'm talking to local artists ( acouple GAY ONES AT THAT) who actually perform and do shows...So, I'm getting tons of knowledge...


I personally don't like you Apexx...I think you're a fuckin know it all... I've been more OPEN and HONEST than ANYONE on this cot damn board...so you can just hop off my back right about NOW...If I was that self-conscious about wanting to look so "smart", I'd PM PHENOM, LEADY, LV, TRIPLE, Limited EDITION, then come and make a thread and ACT like I know every damn thing.

Stop being so negative nigga...and be supportive...otherwise...move on...I'mma get the knowledge I need regardless and 5 Source will be successful.PERIOD.

Enygma 11-12-05 05:50 PM

Wow......you guys are arguing over books. Dooms says read, Q says I'm gonna, Dooms says read again, Q says I'm gonna again.....lol. Why not just drop it and say good luck to each other :thumbup:™

Po It. 11-12-05 05:50 PM

Good business venture. My studio manager
collects almost 300% profit. But in order to
gain capitol, you need credit. 420-850? Id
say do it...but if theres one thing Ive learned,
its the importance of location & timing.

Good Luck. Its really the most thriving business to aspire.

Tha Q. 11-12-05 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Prin
Good business venture. My studio manager
collects almost 300% profit. But in order to
gain capitol, you need credit. 420-850? Id
say do it...but if theres one thing Ive learned,
its the importance of location & timing.

Good Luck. Its really the most thriving business to aspire.



word...I'm excited about it...Imma sponge right now

read read read...learn learn learn...talk talk talk..plan plan plan

I feel this is do or die for me...I'm not goin back to slavery man

I'm too damn determined

Po It. 11-12-05 05:55 PM

Determination Begets Success.

Tha Q. 11-12-05 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Prin
Determination Begets Success.



yea...and something else I believe in is SPEAKING things into existence...So when I say, "I will do this or that"...to me, that's a creative force that drives me to MAKE IT happen


and I don't know too many cats on this board who are where I want to be with my label...I plan to truly study people who've MADE IT...


the point of this thread was to ask cats on the site what they personally would like to have as part of a signing deal...simple question


I'm curious as to what people think...that's why I asked


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