there is ALLWAYS somebody that cares about you, wether u know it or not... you will ALLWAYS effect people negatively if u take ur own life.

posting it on a forum is stupid, nobody actually knows YOU... all they know is sum words on a screen

Okay then...

But I think we all can agree SUICIDE IS A STUPID THING TO EVEN THINK ABOUT.

I admit that myself.

But I am long and over that.

If anything, I wanna help other people through shit like that.

I think that takes alot of strength.

So wanting to be with a loved one is weak? Loving someone so much that you do not want to live without them is weak?

I don't feel the same way but everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I'm not even gonna get into this anymore because...personal shit you know...

dont get me wrong, i am glad to hear that sumbody never actually went through with it, but even when sum1 conciders it, it makes me pissed off with them cos i flat out cant stand when people are that weak n want an easy way out of it.

and i know that sounds terrible saying things like that about ppl who commit suicide when ive lost people that way, but i know, they will know im not dis-respecting them, and they will know what they actually meant/mean to me, and i know they will also agree with what i say and will most likely regret it.

There is NOT always someone that cares about you

Bullshit

committing suicide is weak DQ.... plain and simple.... cuz it would be harder to fight thru all the shit in ur life, rather than take some pills.....

just because a loved one is dead, does not mean they dont live on, they live on in ur memories and ur heart.... and she was with a loved one, infact she still lived her life with countless loved ones, yes it was hard for her when her brother died, and EVERYBODY tried to be there for her, but she was weak, she even told me she was weak and couldnt get through it... and what u have to remember is, ur loved one is dead, but they still live on, and do u think they will rest in peace knowing u took ur own life cos of their death???

and yes there is allways sum1 who cares about you, especially at LE's age..... cos im guessin he was/still is in school.... there will be kids in ur school that like u, sum that may even have feelings for you, teachers beleive it or not grow emotionally attatched to the kids they teach in a kinda family sense, because they play a big part in rasing the children and spend so much time with them they get to know them all extremely well... there are allways neighbours that will care about you.... and even the people that maybe didnt care about you, or maybe even bullied you(if u had anybody like that) would be effected and ud be surprised how many "bullies" go into depression and sumtimes go insane n need mental help because sum1 has committed suicide they used to bully..... it might not be their fault, but they are the ones who feel guilty.

Who the fuck are we to judge what people do?

It's THEIR life, it's THEIR choice...

Yes it's self-centered, yes you're only thinking about yourself then (unless you see it as: i don't want to be burden for them anymore) but it's your life isn't it...they don't have to live it, they don't have to be you...so why should they have the right to judge you for what you do?

So the whole discussion about whether it is weak or stupid or not doesn't mean shit in the end

I agree with this completely.

That's why I didn't do it.

I've lossed alot of people through suicide as well...almost another person more recently.

You can't put your arms around memories can you?

EXACTLY!!!!!!!

your going through hard times, no matter who you are, you want them to end and stop hurting you.... you can take the easy way out or take the hard road through

easy way out = death.. the hard road = struggling through the times..... and knowing that u cant cope with whats happening, and its going to get harder before it gets easier and will take alot longer than if u try killing urself, is 99% of the time going to drive u to do go through with killing urself.

no, but you can treasure them and smile about them when u think of the good times.

ok let me break sumthing down and ull see why i didnt really wanna say who the girl was, but she is a girl i had been with for years, she was everything to me, and when she died, she was pregnant withour baby...... and i still have the pics of our life and all the memories and they constantly put a smile on my face if i ever feel down, she still lives in me and i know she is watching over me wanting me to be happy.

But if you have been through that situation you must understand that people do not choose to keep on living and just want to be dead too...

(sorry about that btw)

No but they give you strength to think about.

but why???

that person might be dead, but u can play a big part in making them live on, memories and what they meant to you and the fact the love you had for them will allways be deep within u means, despite them being dead, they still live on.... people choose not to live on through the shit, because they are not strong enough to cope with it.. if they were strong enough, they wouldnt need to take their own life