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Past Tense 03-03-06 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by tinozwai
fuck that T I shit man u ever heard about Ricky Wilson ?? a cross btwn Nas and jay z man he`s just wicked :shoot:

I dont like jay z..and i dont like nas

so i problay woulnd't like him

KISI 03-03-06 03:13 PM

underground music
 
the problem with underground music, a lot of times, in terms of the more lyrical. is that it is full of lyricists, but not songmakers. People like to listen to music, not spoken word to a beat. Many undergrounders, may be more lyrically inclined then say your 50 cents, or P diddy's, or Nelly's, but they are not talented enough to make MUSIC.

And rap is music.

it is

R.hythm A.nd P.oetry

You see, this is how i was, iwas good for a 16, i could stand with anyone. But i had this sort of inner feeling of obligation, to not make MUSIC. i.e. songy chorus', catchy hooks etc.

But singing, from blues, jazz, and r and b is the primary music talent of my family. My uncle is even touring with Columbia records on the jazz thing now. So i have always had an innate sense of melody, and a decent voice. I am a lyricist on level with great rappers, but since having went to the studio now, puttin out my next project, i've become incredibly talented in chorus. I'm making MUSIC now, and not just tracks, with lyrics.

undergrounders almost only have choruses at all on thier songs, out of obligations. I've listened to the most lyrically revered underground artists and i'm not impressed. I'm not biased because everyone says thier good, I gave fair listens and it's not music.

bottom line is this, dancing, block parties, thier parts of black culture/hip hop. that is what a lot of you don't know.

KOOL COL-B 03-03-06 03:33 PM

give me a song that gits me pop lockin, mainstream or undaground, n its dope, werd

Ysdat 03-03-06 03:33 PM

WTF :whacky:

first of all YOU are underground, I am underground, and most rappers on this site with actual move making plans are underground.

Mainstream currently consist's of 50 cent, pall wall, ja rule, game,snoop,lil jon and everyone who seemingly doesnt give a fuck about hip hop as a culture.

So if your striving for your name to be along side them, then knock ya self out.
but remember bro, mainstream usually comes with a chart reaching track, which consists of a catchy beat, someone yelling YYYYEAAAAHHH!!! thru out it, and about 2% lyricism in it. Mainstream is designed to sell records, who buys the records? underage teeny bopping girls and pimple faced kids still having there dinner made by the ma, if you really want to appeal to that type of audiance, sure.

Underground appeals to those who actually appreciatte rap, as rap, underground are those who dont follow fassion trends, who dont support one side of the 50 and game beef, and who dont actually give two fucks about the diffrence between underground and mainstream,but simply doing it for the soul purpose(whatever that may be to that emcee inparticular)

underground is doing it for rap, mainstream is doing it for mass appeal.

Young_law 03-03-06 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Po'etiquette
WTF :whacky:

first of all YOU are underground, I am underground, and most rappers on this site with actual move making plans are underground.

Mainstream currently consist's of 50 cent, pall wall, ja rule, game,snoop,lil jon and everyone who seemingly doesnt give a fuck about hip hop as a culture.

So if your striving for your name to be along side them, then knock ya self out.
but remember bro, mainstream usually comes with a chart reaching track, which consists of a catchy beat, someone yelling YYYYEAAAAHHH!!! thru out it, and about 2% lyricism in it. Mainstream is designed to sell records, who buys the records? underage teeny bopping girls and pimple faced kids still having there dinner made by the ma, if you really want to appeal to that type of audiance, sure.

Underground appeals to those who actually appreciatte rap, as rap, underground are those who dont follow fassion trends, who dont support one side of the 50 and game beef, and who dont actually give two fucks about the diffrence between underground and mainstream,but simply doing it for the soul purpose(whatever that may be to that emcee inparticular)

underground is doing it for rap, mainstream is doing it for mass appeal.


you forgot those who arent making any kind of money, and if they do make money, then its chumo change

fuck that shyt, id do all the shyt they doin, if i was gon get paid as much as they do

Ysdat 03-03-06 03:53 PM

so you would sell out? just for money.

Young_law 03-03-06 03:54 PM

yea, for all that money, its not like it would effect my life in any kind of way

Ysdat 03-03-06 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by The Law
yea, for all that money, its not like it would effect my life in any kind of way


you think having a shit load of money wouldnt effect your life? then you dont have a fucking clue what your on about. If it wont effect your lfie,then why get the money?

but word, go make ya trash money making sell out records.

Young_law 03-03-06 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Po'etiquette
you think having a shit load of money wouldnt effect your life? then you dont have a fucking clue what your on about. If it wont effect your lfie,then why get the money?

but word, go make ya trash money making sell out records.


no i mean selling out wont change my life in any kind of way

gettin money will, i can actually buy the stuff i fantasize about having.....and as long as its money, then im straight

Ysdat 03-03-06 03:59 PM

ok,you go sell out.

Young_law 03-03-06 04:00 PM

will do, i will go, and im sure your right, my records will sell out

Ysdat 03-03-06 04:01 PM

nah your trash anyway.

J Summers 03-03-06 04:03 PM

i'd do candy shop .. for da $$$$$

Past Tense 03-03-06 04:05 PM

i already make mainstream type music..thats my goal too be mainstream....wgaf? seriously i could care less if you hate me see this is what i gotta say

Quote:
Originally Posted by 50 Cent
Banks told me too switch my style up,n***** hate,lettum hate,and watch the money pile up
thats how i am lol

Young_law 03-03-06 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Po'etiquette
nah your trash anyway.


nah *listens to your soundclick*

im much better than you also


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