Actually...Hol up..back up


What Nos is saying isn't scriptural. There are books that were not included in the bible called non-canonical books. The Canon, as the current bible came to be known as, was agreed upon by scholars to be the most authentic account of the life and times of Jesus, the Christ. I've actually read some of the other books and found them interesting. There's one that talks about Jesus' childhood more than the other ones. You can see how that wasn't included because Jesus hadn't become "Jesus" yet. So, how in the world would ANYONE know what Jesus was doing on the playground? Feel me? Things like that were omitted. No one has ever questioned Christ's Deity. The whole point of the Christian Faith is the acknowledgment that Jesus is Lord and Savior. If you don't believe that, then you don't believe in Jesus at all. Muslims believe Jesus was a "nice guy" who was a prophet. We as Christians know otherwise. Jesus was prophesied thousands of years before he came. When he did, he came to save souls. The bible says in John chapter 1:

"In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God, and the word WAS GOD."

Jesus = the word

Jesus is God.

Yeah, that's actually old news lol. But it isn't true. Islaam was created and funded entirely by St. Augustine after the time that Christianity had already started, at around 70 A.D. The conept of "The Prophet Muhammed" only had legs because Yashua was a well known prophet who had brought success to "Christianity" a religion that did not exist till "Christ" came about. The Pope did not like that Christianity (and there for "Christ") had such a heavy religious influence over catholics who originally answered to and seeked word from the Pope and the Vatican. To regain power, he found someone who would lead what would end up becoming the Muslim religion and excorsized his control to make sure that Muhammed was guided in the direction that the Pope wanted him to. So much so that Muhammed's adviser who "helped" interpret muhammed's prophecies was catholic and influenced Muhammed to believe that anyone not adhering to the divine words of the human pope was an infidel who seeked to decieve the people, which included Jews and Christians. Muhammed even studied the life of St. Augustine in preparation for what he was about to do. As the word of islaam spread to the arabs who were told that they were the chosen ones, the forces for the wars against those religions grew massively powerful.

The Pope OK'd the approvals needed for islaams generals to attack north africa where christianity and judaism had spread, the same place "Jesus" was born and lived. The muslim army in respect to the pope for empowering them also heeded orders to rename the greek statue of Venus to "The Virgin Mary" and the statue of the god Jupiter to "St. Peter" which is where our images of these people come from.

The Pope didn't expect that this religion that he created and influenced to destroy his enemies would eventually grow so wildly out of his control and eventually seek to even overthrow HIM as an "infidel", so peace talks started after the muslim armies invaded turkey, lebanon and were poised to begin on Italy and other land masses, which caused a loose peace between catholics and muslims while the Pope was changing aim to one of the biggest Jewish landmasses on the globe, Russia and areas north, such as poland germany etc. The empowering vision to all Muslims was the (intended) appearance of The virgin mary (the false idols mentioned in the bible) in the muslim city of Fatima which was named after Muhammeds daughter. This was considered the virgin mary's seal of approval to the muslims and elevated Muhammeds daughter to the status of "The most divine female in heaven second only to the virgin mary" at around 1910.

The Pope (This time Pope Pius the XII) and Christianity tried to overthrow the Jewish people of Russia, Poland, and Germany again during the second World War with their Nazi army which everyone knows is staunchly Catholic and seeked to kill all Jews after Hitler was convinced that Jews are responsible for killing the christian Messiah. Once again...They created a monster and it backfired, since Hitler began to seek total world domination with his version of Christianity that was fueled by a maddening passion for genetic science, a hunt (and find) for alien life, and paegan practices and symbols such as the swaztika which originally is a symbol for one-ness with nature, the 4 cardinal directions, 4 elements, etc and pointed clockwise, not counterclockwise which denoted a reversal and undoing of these forces. The Swaztika it self is centered around a cross.


What's ironic is that thousands of years later, this is the EXACT same thing the catholic United States did with the Muslim Taliban. They created them by training Osama to train foot soldiers to combat the U.S.'s (religious) enemy at the time which was Russia post-cold-war, funded him by giving him munitions from their weapons cache and billions of dollars, filling him to the brim with "you-are-the one-ness" and religious zeal, and cut him loose. Then....it backfired.


yay.

I have no "faith" or "beliefs". You find it hard to be-LIE-ve anything when you look at the facts and they conflict to those beliefs. If it really happened, there would be distinct and traceable evidence, not speculation, misinterpretation, and contradiction. Everything means nothing until it's proven. Belief is ignorance. Ask questions. You might learn something.

Opposing views on religion? I don't "believe" everything I read. You believe everything you read? Is that the opposition?

P.S. same AIM name now that I always had, deepblue963

That really does a lot of the clout of a religion to know it was founded on a human agenda. This is just another reason why I dont like wide spread organised religions. They are nothing more than a method of control. Priding themselves on petty traditions and belief's that are set up to give the average person the impression that he/she cannot have a relationship with god without doing exactly as the church tells them to do.. Which brings me to....


I believe god is the universe we exist in. That is, a universe that runs as a precise result of strict cause and effect governing everything. I believe in science over faith due to the fact that science is real and abides by actual logic... Faith is a concoction of ones mind in an attempt to explain the un-explainable.

Organised religions are about making claims that they are the chosen ones and the only true way to salvation. They are nothing more than wide spread cults pretending to be the real deal.

Anybody can have a relationship with god... You dont need to go to church, you dont need to read the bible.. These things are interesting, and knowedge wise can even be beneficial, but also extremily trivial when concearned with the bigger picture.... Just know that everybody has a destiny or path that is set before them with their own individual lessons and experiences that are designed to teach you along the way exactly what you need to know to progress and inevidibly end up where you need to be in life. The harder you try and learn your lessons and the more you give to the world as a person determines how much you will recieve in this life and beyond.

Faith isnt even required.

The Koran states that Jesus was a prophet just like Mohammed. Jesus was like second best because the only true prophet is Mohammed. The two names are stated seperately but where do those theories come from? Just curious...prolly not from Islamic side.

Oh but they are one in the same..
God is formless and exists everywhere at the same time. If he was a seperate entity then then that would make him a kind of being. And if you believe what your own religion tells you about god.. Then this cannot be.

As for your question about what is right and wrong.. Right and wrong is dictated by what we know to be right and wrong. There have been numorous 'free-thinker' cults throughout history that have preached that if they dont think something is wrong, then its not a sin...

However these people have usually used this method of thinking as a justification mainly for fullfilling sexual fantasys.

We are intelligent organisms with the ability to decipher whether something is beneficial or ultimatly wrong. Sure we make mistakes from time to time, but we usually learn as a result.

Be real.. You dont need anyone to tell you whats right and whats wrong.. You just know...

Read Apexx's post on the subject..

It pretty much cleared everything up...

i agree with this.....totally

i know somewhere it also says God holds the world in the palm of his hand, so do you think thats just symbolism saying he is always watching or, do you think he actually is everywhere all the time????

damn i thought it was fat joe lol

or lil wayne .....................lol

"The white image, of Christ, is really Cesare Borgia
and uhh, the second son of Pope Alexander
The Sixth of Rome, and once the picture was shown
That's how the devils tricked my dome"-GZA Basic instructions before leaving earth