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Tha Q. 05-24-06 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Nostradamus
And so the fuck what?


You think the average poor white man is cashing out of this?

Fuck no....

Your sticking to views that black people and white people are in a contest with eachother when in reality, were both just victem to the world we live in...

And thats where you realise its not ideamism I'm speaking.. Its fucking reality...

Its just a reality the world isnt ready for yet...



Sorry bro...I'm not a victim.

I CHOSE to attend a 97% white college because I know there are many ignorant views out there. So, in one sense, I did it to prove to myself that I could compete with white folk in their own arena. There is this misperception that blacks are less intelligent than whites because, as a culture, we score lower on the SAT and other standardized tests.

Well, it's a proven fact that black men have to work 2-3 times as hard as whites to prove that we're JUST as good in the same positions. Why do you think blacks excel in so many arenas when we do put our minds to it? Rock n roll and Hip hop are not accidents. When you put your foot on someone's neck long enough, they'll muster all the strength they can to break from that bondage and rise above it.

^^^I know alot of that was rhetoric. But, the point is, blacks are constantly making strides in this euro-oriented society.






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Tha Q. 05-24-06 10:46 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad Dog
Q earns more than me...should i make a thread sayin a black man's earning more than a white guy?

no...because it's not about that...and i don't see why the majority of owners being one colour has anything to do with anything...

thats my view...these people didn't get into the music industry to be racist...they are business owners thinking about making money...that's all...black or white...they're all in it for one thing...so lets drop this already



You need to come to America and study the history of racism. You need to talk to 70-80 year old blacks who lived during a time where they couldn't even DRINK from the same water fountain as whites.

^^That, my friend, IS ABOUT SKIN COLOR. And, just because it's 2006 doesn't mean that those feelings of bitterness have completely dissipated. They haven't. It's just in a new form now, institutionalized racism.


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Mad Dog 05-24-06 10:46 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tha Q.
^^You say it's "more than color". And, yet, it's always white people with their noses up in the pie...Why's that?

And, again, who is complaining? I stated a fact. Racism is illogical. That's the point. But, when one group is in control, and have the ability to demonstrate racism toward another, it's inevitable...

It has happened in the past, and continues to happen.


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i ain't got my nose up in no pie Q...jus there is no racism happening here...if making money was racist then i guess we all are

La Cosa Nostra 05-24-06 10:51 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tha Q.
Sorry bro...I'm not a victim.

I CHOSE to attend a 97% white college because I know there are many ignorant views out there. So, in one sense, I did it to prove to myself that I could compete with white folk in their own arena. There is this misperception that blacks are less intelligent than whites because, as a culture, we score lower on the SAT and other standardized tests.

Well, it's a proven fact that black men have to work 2-3 times as hard as whites to prove that we're JUST as good in the same positions. Why do you think blacks excel in so many arenas when we do put our minds to it? Rock n roll and Hip hop are not accidents. When you put your foot on someone's neck long enough, they'll muster all the strength they can to break from that bondage and rise above it.

^^^I know alot of that was rhetoric. But, the point is, blacks are constantly making strides in this euro-oriented society.






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Dude blacks are not dumb... Look at apexx.. I respect that guys point of view and I know hes not an igorant cunt...

You dont need to prove jack shit that you can study in the same school as white people cause your no different to us... You just come from a different cultural past..

I understand theres still prejudes in society... But time moves on man... Eventually well live in a world free from cultural misunderstandings....

We just have to work together to achieve this...

Mad Dog 05-24-06 10:53 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nostradamus
Dude blacks are not dumb... Look at apexx.. I respect that guys point of view and I know hes not an igorant cunt...

You dont need to prove jack shit that you can study in the same school as white people cause your no different to us... You just come from a different cultural past..

I understand theres still prejudes in society... But time moves on man... Eventually well live in a world free from cultural misunderstandings....

We just have to work together to achieve this...


somebody give this man a quote box...there ya go

Tha Q. 05-24-06 10:55 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nostradamus
Dude blacks are not dumb... Look at apexx.. I respect that guys point of view and I know hes not an igorant cunt...

You dont need to prove jack shit that you can study in the same school as white people cause your no different to us... You just come from a different cultural past..

I understand theres still prejudes in society... But time moves on man... Eventually well live in a world free from cultural misunderstandings....

We just have to work together to achieve this...



Well...let's see here...

Blacks were still slaves in 1864...

100 years later, blacks were still being hung from trees...churches firebombed by domestic terrorists


2006

42 years later...You don't hear about blacks being hung from trees...But, we do hear about minorities still having dual standards when it comes to health care...

Loans...

Salary discrepancies...


^^Seems to me that the "progress" we've made is merely a metamorphosis of the same bug.


Don't get me wrong. Blacks have made great strides in America. But, I don't honestly think race relations have improved that much. People still have prejudices ingrained in their minds, whether they know it or not.

La Cosa Nostra 05-24-06 11:02 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tha Q.
Well...let's see here...

Blacks were still slaves in 1864...

100 years later, blacks were still being hung from trees...churches firebombed by domestic terrorists


2006

42 years later...You don't hear about blacks being hung from trees...But, we do hear about minorities still having dual standards when it comes to health care...

Loans...

Salary discrepancies...


^^Seems to me that the "progress" we've made is merely a metamorphosis of the same bug.


Don't get me wrong. Blacks have made great strides in America. But, I don't honestly think race relations have improved that much. People still have prejudices ingrained in their minds, whether they know it or not.

Yeah... And the minute blacks wernt slaves anymore..

What did they do?

Go and kill, rape, pillage, burn & destroy all the white people they could...

Thats why the first KKK was formed.. Becuase white people had to live in a country with carpet baggers running round killing them with laws that let them get off scott free..

Dont sit there and act like your shit dont stink... Because we all know your race brings violence and bullshit to your country now more than ever...

Prejudice now a days doesent usually spawn from white supremecy beliefs...

You'd do good to realise that...

Tha Q. 05-24-06 11:44 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nostradamus
Yeah... And the minute blacks wernt slaves anymore..

What did they do?

Go and kill, rape, pillage, burn & destroy all the white people they

could...

Thats why the first KKK was formed.. Becuase white people had to live in a

country with carpet baggers running round killing them with laws that let

them get off scott free..

Dont sit there and act like your shit dont stink... Because we all know

your race brings violence and bullshit to your country now more than

ever...

Prejudice now a days doesent usually spawn from white supremecy beliefs...

You'd do good to realise that...



LOL
.....wow...You're mistaken bro.

#1...When the blacks were "freed", many of them didn't know and so remained

in servitude to their white masters. Still, other blacks who did realize

they were free decided to move north. A vast majority of the remaining

blacks "worked" for their former slave owners, which amounted to nothing

mroe than slavery all over again.

Raping? Killing? Pillaging? Nice way to portray blacks as savaged bro...

Also, research shows that most violence against someone is usually

perpetrated by someone of the SAME race.

Therefore, you can't compare random acts of violence to hate crimes.

The Ku Klux Klan was a TERRORIST group formed to terrorize, and ultimately

kill black people. THat was racism and hatred at its ugliest.

What you need to realize is that Australia and America are two different

countries. We have a history that influences much of how people

believe/act today. And, unfortunately, some of those beliefs include

stereotyping, and discriminating against blacks.


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La Cosa Nostra 05-24-06 11:47 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tha Q.
LOL
.....wow...You're mistaken bro.

#1...When the blacks were "freed", many of them didn't know and so remained

in servitude to their white masters. Still, other blacks who did realize

they were free decided to move north. A vast majority of the remaining

blacks "worked" for their former slave owners, which amounted to nothing

mroe than slavery all over again.

Raping? Killing? Pillaging? Nice way to portray blacks as savaged bro...

Also, research shows that most violence against someone is usually

perpetrated by someone of the SAME race.

Therefore, you can't compare random acts of violence to hate crimes.

The Ku Klux Klan was a TERRORIST group formed to terrorize, and ultimately

kill black people. THat was racism and hatred at its ugliest.

What you need to realize is that Australia and America are two different

countries. We have a history that influences much of how people

believe/act today. And, unfortunately, some of those beliefs include

stereotyping, and discriminating against blacks.


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Yeah..

That was an awesome post..

Especially the part where you might as well have just denied the existance of the carpet baggers compleatly and acted like its all just the evil white man spreading lies...

La Cosa Nostra 05-24-06 11:50 AM

Iunno... Maybe to an extent I should have been there if I want to make an opinion...


But then............Wait a minute........This is the 1800's were talking about so ultimatly... ALL YOUR HEARING IS STORIES TOO....

So what credibility do you believe you have over me?

∆ P E X X 05-25-06 01:40 AM

lmao hold up hold up, what's everybody arguin over?

none of the big corporations you're tlaking aboute "WHITE PEOPLE" owning or it or "BLACK PEOPLE" owning it these shits are owned by boards like 22 deep who are all big investors. there's no one "black guy" or "white guy" that owns any of em. Black or White don't matter in that instance, it's gonna be who ever's all on the inside circle and how ever they got there is some other shit.

now to say a "black guy" should do it would mean one guy doing all that investing and moving on his own which is impossible, so you'd really mean a "black board of directors" which is where the $$$$ comes from.

to get an all black board of investors to all go in to say even....what...take over a label to say a black guy did it?


nah.


Go all in on a new label? That's Rocafella (pre-split rocafella), that's Dame Dash (one man show), that's Diplomat Records, hmm..Bad Boy..*yawn this is getting tedious*...Violator...G-Unit Records... Aftermath, Ruff Riders, and on and on and on.

been there done that. :)

Indeph 05-25-06 01:46 AM

Wtf @ all the ignorant bullshit said in this thread. I'm not even gonna start. Responding to all the stupidity would cause massive bloodloss when they would ignore most of what I said. Then zero in on the one point they can twist and throw at me regardless if its relevant to the point im trying to make. So I'm just gonna say, the KKK are completly justified by what they did. :thumbup: :bored:

Key... 05-25-06 10:48 AM

Did i started a racial conflict?

c'mon sons...we all know whites controll the industry yes.....

but the question will be for how long ...lol

Mad Dog 05-25-06 10:53 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Apexx
lmao hold up hold up, what's everybody arguin over?

none of the big corporations you're tlaking aboute "WHITE PEOPLE" owning or it or "BLACK PEOPLE" owning it these shits are owned by boards like 22 deep who are all big investors. there's no one "black guy" or "white guy" that owns any of em. Black or White don't matter in that instance, it's gonna be who ever's all on the inside circle and how ever they got there is some other shit.

now to say a "black guy" should do it would mean one guy doing all that investing and moving on his own which is impossible, so you'd really mean a "black board of directors" which is where the $$$$ comes from.

to get an all black board of investors to all go in to say even....what...take over a label to say a black guy did it?


nah.


Go all in on a new label? That's Rocafella (pre-split rocafella), that's Dame Dash (one man show), that's Diplomat Records, hmm..Bad Boy..*yawn this is getting tedious*...Violator...G-Unit Records... Aftermath, Ruff Riders, and on and on and on.

been there done that. :)


thank friggity fuck Apexx

La Cosa Nostra 05-25-06 09:54 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Key...
Did i started a racial conflict?

c'mon sons...we all know whites controll the industry yes.....

but the question will be for how long ...lol

This is what I cant stand..

You say 'whites controll the industry'...............as if all white people are in on this taking a cut and telling everyone what to do..


Bro... Its the CEO's, reguardless of color that control rap.

I mean shit, if we were running a mile long race and 3 or 4 white guys won while everyone else (black and white) all were lagging behind... Would you sit here and complain about the entire white race over that too?


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