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Indeph 07-11-06 02:06 AM

Well duh, Rap music started out as an only black thing. It's STILL considered a taboo for white people to even LIKE rap music. When there's a million black ppl doing music when a white person does it theres gonna be that extra appeal because it's fresh and new. Black people usually limit what music they can like to whats mostly black. Black people wouldn't buy a rock album because its made by a black person, they'd just call him an uncle tom. It's not the population it's just whats the base of certain rapper's success. "Let's do the math if I was black I would have sold half". It's easier to connect with someone if they have your skin color. That's not racism, it's just how it is. It's nothing to get mad at.

Shear Kaughn 07-11-06 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Terumoto
Bitches will shake their dumb asses to anything with a thump, why cant they play GOOD music in clubs? And I never ever once said that underground hip hop joints would be good to play in clubs. Dunno where anyone got that from.

Shit is just bad music. Back when the people making music gave a flying fuck, they put effort into their music. It was good. The beats were good. The vibe was good. The melodies were good. Nowadays, nobody gives a shit. They'll put out whatever, and every idiot, his girl and his dog will love it because its the cool thing to do. They make millions and millions for doing jack shit and taking advantage of everyones stupidity.


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Are you black?

Are you semi-decent looking?

Can you speak?

If yes, then you are elligible to be signed to a multi-billion dollar record company and become famous and rich. I would add "Do you have half a brain?" but you dont even need half of half of half a brain to come up with that bullshit. THAT is what constitutes the music you love.



man, i don't agree with not even one of those points you've made......not one......i would go into detail why not..but i'm sure someone else is going to justify me 100% and all i'm going to have to do is quote them and say "word"

Indeph 07-11-06 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Ysdat
man, your getting on some other shit.

basically, you pull the race card sooo much. But your first to catagorise the color of a persons skin. Who gives a fuck about the color. Your a contridicting little fuck!



Are you indenial or something? I pull the race card because it actually matters. Race matters just as much as looks do. It's just part of your appearance. Stop being so touchy about it.

Indeph 07-11-06 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Shear Kaughn
man, i don't agree with not even one of those points you've made......not one......i would go into detail why not..but i'm sure someone else is going to justify me 100% and all i'm going to have to do is quote them and say "word"



Well oppose to the black thing, it is true. People could give half a fuck about the music nowadays. Take a look at popular music, and see whos on top and who's on the bottom. Then look at that list.

Shear Kaughn 07-11-06 02:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Indeph
Well oppose to the black thing, it is true. People could give half a fuck about the music nowadays. Take a look at popular music, and see whos on top and who's on the bottom. Then look at that list.



well that i'll go back and agree with......people look for a certain image

Ysdat 07-11-06 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Indeph
Are you indenial or something? I pull the race card because it actually matters. Race matters just as much as looks do. It's just part of your appearance. Stop being so touchy about it.


buahahah @ me being touchy. bro, your the most insecure about "skin color" on this site.

basically what Ims aying, is why sit and dwell abotu color of someones skin like you do daily?

take away the skin and what do you have? I mean it, literally remove a humans skin, they look they same ( a bit fucked up) but yeh.



Remove the fur off these two rats, what do you have?

Color is only a thing if you make it a thing, why sit and dwell on the problem?
the more you talk about it the more you contribute to the problem.

Dont make me label you a racist.

Terumoto 07-11-06 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Indeph
Well duh, Rap music started out as an only black thing. It's STILL considered a taboo for white people to even LIKE rap music. When there's a million black ppl doing music when a white person does it theres gonna be that extra appeal because it's fresh and new. Black people usually limit what music they can like to whats mostly black. Black people wouldn't buy a rock album because its made by a black person, they'd just call him an uncle tom. It's not the population it's just whats the base of certain rapper's success. "Let's do the math if I was black I would have sold half". It's easier to connect with someone if they have your skin color. That's not racism, it's just how it is. It's nothing to get mad at.


Exactly. So why are you arguing? I agree with you?

The rap/hip hop industry is mainly full of black people. Thats what I implied with what I said. It was a generalization, but an understandable one, which you reaffirmed.

What I said had nothing to do with the handful of white artists whose success is fuelled by being different.

Indeph 07-11-06 02:13 AM

I sometimes wonder if 2pac wasn't from the hood would they still like his music.

Indeph 07-11-06 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Terumoto
Exactly. So why are you arguing? I agree with you?

The rap/hip hop industry is mainly full of black people. Thats what I implied with what I said. It was a generalization, but an understandable one, which you reaffirmed.

What I said had nothing to do with the handful of white artists whose success is fuelled by being different.



Well I assumed by including the black thing to the list meant it was a requirement to be a multiplatinum rap artist. When paul wall makes what people do nowadays and he's white.

Terumoto 07-11-06 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Shear Kaughn
man, i don't agree with not even one of those points you've made......not one......i would go into detail why not..but i'm sure someone else is going to justify me 100% and all i'm going to have to do is quote them and say "word"


You're around now so why dont you just argue your points?

Im interested in what you have to say about it, if you disagree with every point.

Indeph 07-11-06 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Ysdat
buahahah @ me being touchy. bro, your the most insecure about "skin color" on this site.

basically what Ims aying, is why sit and dwell abotu color of someones skin like you do daily?

take away the skin and what do you have? I mean it, literally remove a humans skin, they look they same ( a bit fucked up) but yeh.



Remove the fur off these two rats, what do you have?

Color is only a thing if you make it a thing, why sit and dwell on the problem?
the more you talk about it the more you contribute to the problem.

Dont make me label you a racist.


How am I a racist? Nobody here could possible disagree with that? It's an obvious impact on sells. Because I made a point of how race impacts the public that means I'm a racist? I'm not gonna actually ignore it. I'm not insecure about my race, I wouldnt be any other race if I had the choice. I'm just socially consious. What, by noticing someone's race I'ma racist? You need to chill, If you think me saying that makes me a racist, than you got problems.

Indeph 07-11-06 02:22 AM

To elaborate further with the race shit, listen ysdat. Race doesn't change my opinion of the rapper's music, my opinion on the rapper or his personal life. I'm not the type of person to be like "HEY! I'm not a racist I have white friends", you can take it or leave it. If we had a talent show at your house, and i had two family members there, and you had 20 there. And we all had a vote on who was better, you're gonna win most likely. Come on now, you know me better than that.

Ysdat 07-11-06 02:32 AM

indeph.

Basically, you stated being white will generate sales. To me that is false. That is a racial generalisation. There is absolutly no fact behind you saying that right now, in rap, being white will generate sales.

I feel your basing your point of view on eminem, I admit him being white obviously slightly helped, but why didnt vanilla ice do aswell as eminem.
Lack of skill.

Skill sells,not skin color.

*edit*

im really over this , but yeh, i ned to correct myself. skill doesnt allways sell. but yeh, I cant be fucked stating obvious points, Im sure you know whats up indeph.

Just stop catagorising color and/or stating a reason someone does or done somthing is cause of there color. Your simply fueling the racial fire that continues to burn.

Indeph 07-11-06 02:36 AM

WEll obviously beig white itself isnt gonna automatically generate sells. It makes you sell MORE. For example, if a black rapper said eminem's rhymes it wouldn't sell as much. It's the same for the talent show analogy. It's the same thing as bow wow not being able to sell as much if teenage girls didnt find him attractive. Race isn't any different from common appearance. I don't see what the problem is here.

Ysdat 07-11-06 02:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Indeph
WEll obviously beig white itself isnt gonna automatically generate sells. It makes you sell MORE. For example, if a black rapper said eminem's rhymes it wouldn't sell as much. It's the same for the talent show analogy. It's the same thing as bow wow not being able to sell as much if teenage girls didnt find him attractive. Race isn't any different from common appearance. I don't see what the problem is here.


wow.
just wow.

My time isnt worth tryna state the obvious to someone whos mind is made up.

keep comparing colors through out your life and see how you instantly fall into the catagory of millions of others on earth.


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