Originally Posted by Pimp

When I seen that SPuL & Tizz started their own record label, I stopped for a second to think about things.

Why do RV rappers think they have a shot in the industry?

Seriously. Do you people not realize that you're now trying to make it in a hip-hop industry where sales are falling off?

Do you not realize that none of you have the skills/commerical appeal for any REAL label to consider signing yoU?

Do you not realize that once your away from your friends & RV d/r, you're not anything special to anyone?

I'm trying to see what the advantage is to doing something like this, because honestly, I'm not seeing it. Unless you have a good local support (which you're too spread out across the country to really have) then this little label project is going to cost you more money than you'll make out of it. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying anyone on here isn't talented or anything, but in all reality we have to accept the fact that right now, no one on here is at that level.

No beef, I'm just trying to see where people like you all & OYD are getting with this stuff. SPuL, we cool in all, but when I told you I thought this was a bad idea, this is the kind of stuff I think you weren't taking into condiseration. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong, but this is a message to everyone, not just calling you out.

So yea. This is my thought.

*waits to catch heat for this one*

Originally Posted by Pimp

Start somewhere, then move up. I'm not saying right now... 5-10 years down the road, if anyone here drops on an half-way accredited label, then I will be proven wrong. I apologize that you lack the critical thinking ability to come to this conclusion. I guess we actually do have a better education system on this side of the Atlantic.

Originally Posted by Jack The Rippa

I'm saying, M.A.S is actually getting itself or is already officialised, they're gonna do shows, etc etc... I can't understand how anyone would tell them "hey you're not gonna make it" because they're actually putting their effort into this and doing what needs to be done, they're going for it and not just sitting on their ass on a computer chair like the rest of RV... They have a chance, and they're working hard, if they keep doing what they're doing then who knows what would happen. You don't know, because you can't predict the future. There's a lot of rappers who start small, and then just blow up and become huge, if it happens you're of the lucky few, if not then you're along side the rest of the struggling artists. You can't start off the best, name me one label that started off putting out platinum selling artists? You're basically telling people "hey, you got no chance, and you're gonna fail, so give up." That's a wack fucking attitude. You don't know that, and basically you're just putting people down for trying to do their dream. That's not cool man, you aren't even giving constructive criticism just simply saying "Hey you're not gonna do shit". It's THAT attitude that will keep you from succeeding, honestly. You go into the music business telling yourself "i'm gonna make it, i'm gonna be huge" you need confidence and that's what's gonna bring you to the top. Life is too short to play it safe anyways. Go after your dream, set a goal, and don't stop until you get there, tell yourself you're gonna do it, fuck what anyone else has to say, fuck what anyone else thinks, you only live once so take a risk, because the reward will be great, and if you never reach that goal, atleast you'll be able to tell yourself that you tried no matter what anyone else said, that's real strength right there, it takes a real person to do that. That's determination man, never give up

FEEL ME!?

Originally Posted by Jack The Rippa

I'm saying, M.A.S is actually getting itself or is already officialised, they're gonna do shows, etc etc... I can't understand how anyone would tell them "hey you're not gonna make it" because they're actually putting their effort into this and doing what needs to be done, they're going for it and not just sitting on their ass on a computer chair like the rest of RV... They have a chance, and they're working hard, if they keep doing what they're doing then who knows what would happen. You don't know, because you can't predict the future. There's a lot of rappers who start small, and then just blow up and become huge, if it happens you're of the lucky few, if not then you're along side the rest of the struggling artists. You can't start off the best, name me one label that started off putting out platinum selling artists? You're basically telling people "hey, you got no chance, and you're gonna fail, so give up." That's a wack fucking attitude. You don't know that, and basically you're just putting people down for trying to do their dream. That's not cool man, you aren't even giving constructive criticism just simply saying "Hey you're not gonna do shit". It's THAT attitude that will keep you from succeeding, honestly. You go into the music business telling yourself "i'm gonna make it, i'm gonna be huge" you need confidence and that's what's gonna bring you to the top. Life is too short to play it safe anyways. Go after your dream, set a goal, and don't stop until you get there, tell yourself you're gonna do it, fuck what anyone else has to say, fuck what anyone else thinks, you only live once so take a risk, because the reward will be great, and if you never reach that goal, atleast you'll be able to tell yourself that you tried no matter what anyone else said, that's real strength right there, it takes a real person to do that. That's determination man, never give up

FEEL ME!?

Originally Posted by Jack The Rippa

How the fuck are y'all gonna ignore me? :shoot:

Atleast one person coulda been like "worde true shit, real talk here" pfffft