lmao, you're really buggin, but you still have to spend the money on the system, PLUS the money on a sound card, just to do what a mac does out the box!! aahahhahahaaaaa

garbage dude. you're satisfied with sub par garbage.

a mac with your PC's specs would be much much faster since a mac takes less processes to accomplish the same function AND doesnt have to run every command through dos. a mac with 33% less specs would be as fast or faster performing the same tasks.

for real? ok so off the top of the dome:

what processor for a mac would be as good as a

dual core 2.88ghz processor?

roughly anyway...

*sigh* Making spyware for Macs is like marketing something to legal Mexican immigrants. It wouldn't hit too many people. And btw I don't run Spyware programs cuz I'm not fuckin stupid.

a 1.88 or 1.96ghz SINGLE with 1GB ram would pee on a dual core pc with one gig of ram. a DUAL core mac at 1.66ghz 1GB ram would pee on even that. macs used to use a diff chip manufacturer and made systems that were way faster than PC's with identical specs, then they got down with intel and with the indentical specs they had before got each system 4-6 times faster!! the new intel macs are fucking unreal man. i'm waiting till leopard comes out to buy mine.

Ahahahaha @ Macs are piece of shits.

what?! don't you know?!!! of course macs are pieces of shit!! i can't tell you why, but...uhh...they're pieces of shit!! so what if they're easy to use! so what if they lead the industry in art, photography, music production, cgi and and graphic design! so the hell what if behind all that beautiful eye candy is the most advanced system ever built and so fucking what if every feature found on a pc in the last 14 years was ripped off the mac OS..

macs suck!!!

Yeah bro, you're pretty crappy too AHAHAHAHA.

yeah man. if macs are shit. then i am king of the shit

People who talk down Macs don't own one.









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Okay, let me remind you all of what this thread was saying and how utterly well you proved it's point far beyond the first post...



The end.

if my computer sucked, it'd be easy not to talk about it.

lmao, not my fault that you can't say something good about your system, princess

PC users telling mac users to stfu isn't shutting up.. PC users get pissed off with macs and mac users for whatever reason, and vice versa.

However... The bottom line is PC users don't use macs, but the majority of mac users switched to macs from PCs. It means if [the majority of] mac users have a bias, it is was developed POST switch, while [the majority of] PC users have a bias to the ONLY side they have experienced.

So who are you honestly going to believe?

The argument from PC users against that will be "Nah dude, lol, I've used a mac before, and it was shitty so my opinion still stands." My answer to that in the form of a question is to what degree? Just using one at school or at a friends place or some shit doesn't really cut it. You haven't actually used the mac in your mind, you've just used something different to the PC you always use. Humans + new things = not good. It's like if you get a new phone or some shit, you don't really know your way around it and it seems foreign, you prefer your old phone because you knew everything about it. But over time you get to know the new phone and it becomes as familiar as your old one. Probably that was a bad analogy.

Anyway, I don't know why anyone would say macs suck or aren't as good for work as PCs and all that shit. First of all, Macs can run office, and even if they couldn't there are apps for mac that do the same thing. But maybe macs arent suitable for large scale business because of their price... Fair enough. Is "work" limited to spreadsheets and word documents? Macs are used for work, for different kinds of work. Macs are the industry standard in the media side of work, because they are just better at that shit than PCs are. Plain and simple. They are just as good at number crunching as well, but aren't as easy and cheap to obtain for that shit.

I mean think about it... PCs are used in big businesses. The way they work there is they will get a few powerful systems to use as servers, and have all of the data, programs, and whatever else on those servers. That will cost them maybe a few thousand dollars per machine. Then they just buy nodes, access point PCs that have no hard drives, barely any ram or processing power, and they just run everything off of the servers.

Unless you are paying over $2000 or a lot more for your PC, you are just running a hotted up node. Example, a cheap "decent" dell PC will cost you maybe $500... Around there anyway. $500 for a PC that can't do jack shit and is NOT worth $500. What are the main components of a PC?

mother board
power supply
GPU (vid card)
sound card
hard drive/s
Processor
disk drive/s
RAM
Monitor
case

Here is how much each of those components would cost, if you were building a PC with the same specs as a $500 dell.

mother board - Max $30
power supply - Included in case
GPU (vid card) - none
sound card - none
hard drive/s - 80GB, max $40
Processor - $80 (they would spend less and give you a 1.88GHz cpu, this would probably get you an AMD athlon 64 3800, 2.4GHz)
disk drive/s - Max $7 (About the best DVD burner you can buy would cost you less than $30, you can get a really good one for $15, or even less)
RAM - They would give you 512MB DDR, you can get a stick of 512MB DDR ram for a few bucks...
Monitor - 15 inch LCD display, less than $100
case - Max $60


Total - $351

Keep in mind, this $350 PC costs more than it should have, because of the processor being better than what Dell would give you. Every single one of dells computers is similar to this, costing far more than it's worth. You could even buy yourself a graphics and sound card and STILL be paying less than $500. Dell uses the graphics and sound chipset included on the motherboard for their PCs if you dont specify you want actual standalone cards. And Dell probably buys their components for a lot cheaper than that. So wtf are you paying for? Labor? The PCs are put together by machines.

Every PC company does that. Every single one, and the gap between the value of what youre paying for and what you pay for it is HUGE. I even do it, it's awesome. People actually think computers cost that much.

Anyway, my point is apple does it too, but to a far lesser extent. Macs are generally considered expensive, but they don't cost much more than what PC companies charge for PCs. The difference is the value... Apple uses top of the line components, PC dealers use the cheapest components. I think Apexx was saying before that out of a mac and a PC with the same specs, the mac would run better by far. It's because of the quality and efficiency of the components.

Another thing apple does differently is carefully design their systems and the relationship of the components. You can put together a top of the line PC with top of the line components, but it will never reach it's supposed potential, because the components aren't designed to compliment each other, they are just thrown together. I have a PC like that, and a mac with the same specs would just run better than it, because of of not only good components, but good components designed to work together to create an efficient system.

You would be able to feel the difference if you used a mac for the things macs are praised for, then tried to do the same thing on a PC.


----- Only part that actually matters----

Anyway, about my opinion on the mac vs PC thing... It doesn't actually matter. The debate matters elsewhere, but it doesn't make a bit of difference for like 99% of people arguing about it. Mainly because the people who are important and who will actually be affected by the differences between mac use and PC use don't give a shit about what a bunch of people who use their computers to chat, check their myspace and post on forums think about the issue. You might be thinking "LOL, fat chance, no way im like that... I play PC games and edit music, I make graphics on a pirated version of photoshop etc etc" ... You have obviously used PCs all your life and don't want to use a mac because you are used to PCs and mac OS doesn't support as many games as windows does... Even though lately it actually does, but you have it in your head that it doesn't.

Try to see things in perspective.

ok not finna read that whole post, but like i said before, PC's may be more expensive, but it doesent matter i f you have to money to spend, but once u get it, it shits on mac, dawg my pc hs 3 ghz with 2.5 mb of ram, n u talkin about 1 g and 1.88 ghz? fuck outta here, and the new shit thats coming to vista (Microsoft Photosynth) Microsoft is going to literally SHIT on mac in graphics and video dawg MAC aint neva had no shit like photosynth, even if mac had ANYTHING on PC it would be just graphics and music, WOW thats ALLLLL computers are used for now a days, and you cant say, oh macs run smoother, cuz they dont, my vista runs smooth as hell and fast as hell son

dude you are fuckin RETARDED!! apple makes the most powerful computer in the world, are you on crack?? 3GHz from the 4 processor 16GB of ram Mac Pro fool. shit is 6 timesfaster than the closest PC!!! and that's before the 64 bit system comes out!!!! we lead the industry in every segment dude, innovation, sheer power, audio, video, graphical, stability, and security, so where you at now PC boy??? defending your limp dick ass system with complete unedicated bullshit lmao that ain't gonna get you nothin but OWNED bitch!!

and a new program that windows ripped off the mac to try to do something iphoto was doing 7 years ago is somehow gonna take over macs in photo editing?? AAAAAHAHAHAHAHAH?? Dude, Aperture is THE industry standard for photo editing and is miles away form anytihng the PC is gonna be doing for a LONG time. you don't win by playing catch-up son. You aint seen a magazine cover in years that didn't go through apperture. something becomes an industry standard for a reason - because its the best in the industry!

point blank son.