i was pratically raised on Jay-z's Reasonable Doubt. Thought provoking? shit it gave me a different grip on life. a album about elevating from the hard ships, and bullshit of what life, has to offer you, into success. what has def jux done for you.

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LoL....That Made Me Laugh..

That Was The Best Hip Hop Album Of 2001...I Know Non UG Heads That Even Agree With Me..

And Since When Did This Thread Turn Into A "Vs. Battle Thread" ?

Envisionz Said "Strongest Artists"

Battling Ability Has Nothing To Do With Anything, Although Im Pretty Sure Camu Tao Could Make A Better Battle Track Than The Whole Roc.. :rolleyes:

*phew*... aint really into that other crew or what not but R.O.C. is tight...
Cam
Jay
Bleek
Siegel
Gunz
M.O.P.

not so much freeway after his meeting with cass i lost ratings from him.... but anyways... im seeing some hateration towards tha ROC.... f'realz...

I agree with you, but that's only one album. Reasonable doubt is one of my altime fav's but it doesnt dig the Roc outta the hole its in now.....7 years later...... But at least Jux come's with better shit then "Diplomatic Immunity".....for real now

There's more quality artist on Def right now, its as simple as that. One album doesnt make a record label, sorry.

ROC wins no contest whatever those fools say......the best Hip hop lp of 2001 was the chronic lp by dre, dumb ass....and it got awarded by the source XXL and urb magazine.....

yall kan keep talkin whatever but the fact remains that roc has way more street cred and way better sales cuz their fans wanna hear their shit.....even on the mix tapes where their underground freestyles are bough too,
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i dunno how you can compare the two...one is gangsta rap orientated...and wack...and the other...is just def jux...no need to explain it...murs would have to the most gangsta of def jux...but thats like so limited its not even worth talking about...you cant compare two completly different styles o label...now if you compared roc,and then the mobb,then youd have something to cmpare,both very similar.but i know nothing baou tgangsta rap,so i wouldnt know if they were cool with each other or what...

but anyway,def jux is iller...iller...so much iller then that commercial bullshit churned out from the roc...

pshh

The only magazine there worth a damn is URB.....

And the best album of 2001 is The Cold Vein.

Wow Like I Care What A Hip Hop Magazine Says And Does...They're Ignorant And Ignore The UG Anyway..So Its Just Slightly Biased..

Although We Can Argue Allday About This... Its Always Gonna Be UG Vs Wackne*Cough* I Mean Mainstream.

^lol^

you got to respect Rook-E-G tho. the kid forever sticks to his guns.

yeah Envisionz ... you are right.

Jay-Z is a ill rapper I don't care what anybody says

Word G.B.....

Im Bumping Those Cannon Packing Tracks.... :D

is copywrite with rocafella?

Def Jux makes Rocafella look like shit.................................

Actually Rocafella makes Rocafella look like shit..............................

As you can tell from my av, I think Def Jux is tha bomb diggity

JIGGAMAN AND FRIENDS dosent even compare nowadays

I used to bump Jay-Z back in the day too, but now it's just tha same shit over and over

I don't even consider Rocafella peeps artists, they just say what most people want to hear.

I'm not saying ure un-intelligent if you listen to Jay-Z, but Def-Jux requires sum smarts to understand, and I appreciate them not dumbing shit down just to appeal to the masses.

Cam is better than Hova????
Cam is better than Beans???
Cam is better than Free???

Please...go back to the newbie rooms and re-learn your hip hop...

Jay Z alone could defeat Def Jux...hahaha...what a stupid thread...

Nothing good since RD?? PFFFFF>>>>hahahahahahh...thats probably the stupidist thing I've ever seen on a rap board...

Blueprint was a classic...everyone knows that...and thats just one example...and when Black comes out...its gonna continue to set the record straight that Jay is one of the greatest artists to ever live.