I beat about 15 REAL vets overall in the net.. i mean reall very respected vets with records like 32-4, or 24-2 and shit, also they were experienced and they have been in for a long time i beat some fag by one vote and this kid been on the net since 2001... i lost to alot of vets too like i lost to smoka and BTK...

exclusive and villiage pimp..you guys are no where near vets..id say youd need to be here about 6-7 months,,you guys dont have the records to be vets..to be a veteran u need a couple more battles under ur sleeve..id say atleast 16 ..werd

i agree with the 16 battles thing..........