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Originally Posted by B-MAC

Bud your 16.. since when do 16 year olds know anything about anything. I can guarantee i know alot more about your own country then you might think you do.

Thanks for stating how old I am.

But regardless of my age, is what you "know" really revelant to the immigration problem that I'm talking about? All you're saying is that we SHOULD be spending money on the illegal immigrants.

Yeah, great show of knowledge.

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Originally Posted by efecx

lol mim gone runnin he cudnt reply to my last 2 posts

Yeah, I ran all the way off the board.

Shut the fuck up.

I was just typing.

Well. Fuck what you heard.

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Originally Posted by efecx

oh my fuckin god but do u not see that your sayin its fine to come across legally but they shud be shot if comin across illegally seriously do u not see that they are comin across illegally cause they cannot afford to come across legally n for the record they are givin money back he reason they come here is to make better lives for themselves so therefor work so therefor they hav to pay taxes which is therefor giving money back

dam to u not understand this

YOU ARE ASSUMING THE REASON THEY CAN'T PASS LEGALLY IS BECAUSE THEY CAN'T AFFORD IT.

You are just making assumptions. Do you fucking know every immigrant who passes illegally? Fuck no. Because you're to busy talking to your asian buddies. Just shut the fuck up.

The difference between people coming across legally and illegally, is that the people who come across legally pay taxes and contribute to the country, not just exploit it like the illegal ones.

Because that typo is the only reason why you were saying I was "hypocritical."

I never contradicted myself except for that.. because it was a typo.

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Originally Posted by Mimesis

It is not the United States problem that Mexico is in a plight of poverty.

Before I edited it to that I said something like, "It is the United States problem Mexico is in a plight of poverty." When, I really don't think it is.

How is that being a hypocrit?

It would be hypocritical for me to say "All countries problems should be dealt with by that country." However, I didn't say that.

I said MEXICO should deal with their own problems.

That is NOT being a hypocrit.

mexico and iraq are two completely different places...
therefore its not hypocritical...

Hes right. Mimesis knows his shit.

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Originally Posted by Mimesis

It's not attacking. What the fuck are you talking about?

If like, 10 people come up to you and get ready to jump you, and you're carrying a gun, would you not pull it? Or would you just sit back and get your ass beat? Everybody here would use the fucking gun and you know it.

Fuck the immigrants.

It'd be different if the majority improved this country at all. But no, most are a fucking drain on this economy. And yes, we do have people starving in this country, but we still pay over 5 million dollars IN ARIZONA ALONE on motherfucking people who shouldnt be here. Most of them are not bringing anything to this country. MOST OF THEM ARE NOT EVEN ADOPTING TO THIS COUNTRY, MOST OF THEM ARE MAKING US ADOPT TO THEM. Maybe it would be different if the teachers down here didn't HAVE to know spanish. Maybe it'd be different if the mayor down here didn't HAVE to pay money because our schools are PACKED with people who can't speak English. And then, are jails are being filled up with people who shouldn't fucking be here. That shit is fucking pathetic.

Nothing else is working at the borders. So yeah, my solution is to fucking KILL every motherfucker who tries to step across, because sooner or later, they would stop coming. Open the borders up after we got shit figured out in this country. Don't let these motherfuckers exploit our motherfuckering country. Trying to earn a better life? Tell me how many successful illegal immigrants you know, that immigrated in the past 5 years. Maybe 10 at most? Mowing lawns and building houses isn't living the good life. Don't feed me that bullshit.

So, back to my point. This country is being over run. In MY lifetime the whites, blacks, and any other race besides mexican is going to be the minority.

This shit isn't going to change. Fix their fucking country. Don't move their population into the United States and then make us pour money into their stupid asses.

Get to mounting the machine guns.. get to shooting every last motherfucker who tries to illegally get into this country.

i think he would know about legal immigrants living in Arizona and those who agree are from Arizona as well.. he not attacking the immigrants or a particular race, he saying that if it's illegal why waste money to helping people that are illegal here in the first place, seems unnecessary in his opinion... So that doesn't make him racist, chill.

Lemme tell you something, I agree and yet I disagree with this..

*I agree because it's like folkz smoking crack enter the country and we force other people (our own citizens) to smoke crack so we can understand what the fuck they saying.. instead of keeping them out in the first place or sending them back. --I knew the drug thing might be a better comparison for some of you net-drug lawds.. so there you go.. (had to add the humor)--

*I disagree because everyone's case is different, Cuba's government is different from ours and those running from Mexico must have some reason (if it's dealing with cops they'll get caught), so before we can pass judgement on anybody you really have to know someone's situation.

I don't think people should just get killed tho for coming to the border... however, if people want it to be in America enuff they will run at anybody that has guns in their hands knowing they could die, but if you human you wouldn't go shooting someone who is in need. They have a reason for wanting to be in the U.S. whether it's a good enuff reason or not...

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Originally Posted by efecx

i dunno maybe its the way i read it but the way i read it was that he was saying every country shud deal wit there own problems so therefore being hypocritical bout it

Yeah, but I wasn't.

So, now that I put that to rest.. would you like to give another reason why I should give a damn about illegal immigrants? I'll gladly tear another one of your posts up before I get off.

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Originally Posted by Mimesis

It's not attacking. What the fuck are you talking about?

attacking doesnt just mean physical there dickhead, i meant u were attacking immigrants verbally....or textually i guess

Word @ everyone forgetting that America is a country completely based on immigrants.

Not taking sides, it's just facts.

^ That may be true, but it's not based on ILLEGAL immigrants.

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Originally Posted by ~Lady Fiya~

yah seriously i know where he is comin from.. arizona has it bad.. like in texas we got there same problems and the immigrants are causing more problems then overpopulation

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Originally Posted by Mimesis

^ That may be true, but it's not based on ILLEGAL immigrants.

Did you read what I said? :huh:

Yeah, you said this country is based on immigrants.

And I said this country may be based on immigrants, but not the illegal ones.

DUDE WHAT DOES MINE SAY...

SWEET!!..

lol thats what yall sound like for real and i dont count i am an indian.. no immigration here..

nah not really but that would be fucked i would hate white people

Lmfao. That movie was funny as hell, but nah, that's what we sound like.

I just don't understand what Soc be talking about yo.

^lol me either.. like he is agreeing with you in an argumenative way..

*wow that sounded str8*

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Originally Posted by efecx

eh back wen most these immigrants moved to your country there was no such thing as legal/illegal it was just if u get there well done u are now a citizen so u cant say that

What the fuck does that have to do with anything?

Right NOW there are illegal and legal immigrants. This HISTORY of this country has nothing to do with illegal immigrants flooding it NOW.

Socrates said this country IS based on immigrants, not WAS. Therefore, he is also implying that today this country is based on immigrants today, but not the illegal ones.

Ok? I already said that may be true.

But the United States of America is NOT based on ILLEGAL immigrants.

Why the hell do you keep taking this convo in circles?

I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT "BACK THEN."

Right now you say this country is based on immigrants. I say, that may be true.

BUT RIGHT NOW, HOW THE FUCK IS LETTING ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS INTO THE UNITED STATES BENEFICIAL?

How is giving a poor Mexican a chance at a "better life" beneficial to the United States?

If they came across illegally that means they aren't paying taxes.

They would be in no way, beneficial. Please.

And what the fuck @ you saying I want my "town" (which happens to be the 6th biggest "city" in this country) "white?" I could give a fuck less how many immigrants live down here, but being that 85% or MORE are illegal down here, that shit pisses me off. They flood across the border right into my hometown and dont do shit to benefit this city or this fucking country.

Why are you bringing Bush into this, without connecting him to the illegal immigrants at all? That seems mad pointless to me. Quit going off on tangents.

So yeah, you can call it "selfish," but I guarantee you would be pissed as fuck if the United States sent all of our poor and uneducated people over to Ireland to live there, without giving back to the country at all. You fucking know you wouldn't like that, so don't fucking tell me to be happy seeing this shit and look at those motherfuckers with open arms.

get em mimesis.....:shoot:

im suprised this is still goin on :huh:

Yeah, efecx still be arguing with me instead of realizing how gay he is being. Like he'd be content if we sent all our poor and uneducated people over there to live in his city without doing shit to improve it.

So, I'll just keep merking him all over this thread until he realizes that I'm right.

But, I'm going out to eat, so efecx, when I don't respond for a while, it's not me "running" away from you as you said yesterday.

I'll post up a response later.

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Originally Posted by efecx

look im not goin off in tangents cause u keep bitchin bout this 5mil or watever the fuck it was n who is giving that money the goverment who is run by bush so that is y i bring bush into it

n i jus said before it is not benificla for every1 so stop saying how is that benifial to america wen i never said it was

n the way u talk its like mexico are stickin towns of people on buses n putting them in america look its not like that stop sayin mexico are sendin across the most uneducated n all that cause its not mexico bringin them across its individual people choosing to do this so stop saying mexico is bringin them across

n they are paying taxes y cant u understand that wen they go out n get a job they are payin taxes, wen they get on the fuckin bus to go any were they are paying taxes, wen they buy food to eat they are payin taxes so thereforw they are payin taxes so they are contributing to the economy to make your country better

Actually, there was a deal for 80 million. But sure, Bush had to approve it. Ok? I thought that was already established.

But if getting illegal immigrants is not beneficial to America then why should it be content with letting them in? So they have a chance at a better life? So America can pay for them to be here? Yeah, great deal we get out of that. We get a bunch of poor, uneducated, free loading Mexicans. Awesome.

And ok, so Mexico isn't sending them across, but you haven't seen it down here. There could easily be towns filled with the illegal immigrants, meaning, population wise, it is like towns of people came across the border.

But ok, I'll do it your way. If all the poor, uneducated Americans willingly went to Ireland to live there, and didn't do anything to give back to the government, would you be happy? Would be like "sure, they just want to get a better life" while your countries biggest cities are filling up with illegal American immigrants? Yeah, didn't think so.

But, I'm not talking about paying taxes on every individual item, per se. But no, how is somebody who is not a civilian of this country supposed to fill out taxes? They can't because they shouldn't even be here. Meaning, on the big scale, they don't pay taxes. Paying 20 cents extra to buy something is not what I'm talking about. Illegal immigrants do not pay taxes.

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Originally Posted by Mimesis

I think the United States to mount up machine guns at the borders.

Seriously;

Shit's getting out of hand.

Either that or go kill the people in charge who are killing the countries they control, and let people help themselves. Cuz we are running out of room in the US.