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Blay'all 10-04-05 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by One Man Band
Its like me saying to you, shit man, why the fuck do you steal TVs? When I was a kid a black guy broke into my house and stole my TV. I cant stand how they ALL do that... Maybe black people need to get jobs.

See how bad generalization is?

what the fuck are YOU talking about?

Terumoto 10-04-05 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by -Indeph-
It gets to me alot just cause I'm a culturally diverse dude. But I'm in a country where they are literally accepting every race EXCEPT black people. WAtch american TV for 2 hours and see that everytime a black person is on the screen its making fun of or talking about his race. ALL THE TIME.


all the time huh... Gimme 3 real examples youve seen in the last 2 days of racism on TV.

Terumoto 10-04-05 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by N.A.C.
what the fuck are YOU talking about?


nos was right... you really arent worth it -_-

Blay'all 10-04-05 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by One Man Band
nos was right... you really arent worth it -_-

no, fuck that


you made absolutely no sense
a black person stealing a TV is like whites enslaving blacks for hundreds of years somehow???
you're a fucking idiot, dont talk down to me young'n

i made absolutely no generalization
you just pulled that out of your ass...

Indeph 10-04-05 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by One Man Band
all the time huh... Gimme 3 real examples youve seen in the last 2 days of racism on TV.


War at home: "you only got into that ivy league college because of Affermative action."
Family guy: The dog barks every time he sees a black person. And when he dated a black women he kept making remarks about martin luther king. AND they said "we stop slavery, the least u could do is stay away from my family".
OMG I can name soo many.

Terumoto 10-04-05 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by N.A.C.
no, fuck that


you made absolutely no sense
a black person stealing a TV is like whites enslaving blacks for hundreds of years somehow???
you're a fucking idiot, dont talk down to me young'n


Not at all.

I was making a point about your generalization. You said you "hate how they cant just leave the word alone" .. they meaning white people. The majority of white people do leave the word alone. So basically you're accusing ME of something I didnt do, and racism, which is something im against.

Which is like me accusing you of stealing TVs. Just because my TV got stolen by a black guy when I was a kid, it doesnt mean black people are bad and it doesnt mean all black people rob houses.

Do you understand?

Blay'all 10-04-05 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by One Man Band
Not at all.

I was making a point about your generalization. You said you "hate how they cant just leave the word alone" .. they meaning white people. The majority of white people do leave the word alone. So basically you're accusing ME of something I didnt do, and racism, which is something im against.

Which is like me accusing you of stealing TVs. Just because my TV got stolen by a black guy when I was a kid, it doesnt mean black people are bad and it doesnt mean all black people rob houses.

Do you understand?

no, read what i edited into my last post

i made no generalization, "they" are the non-blacks who cant respect blacks enough to not say one word... and thats what i was talking about, you just made up the part about all whites, i didnt say that.

Terumoto 10-04-05 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by -Indeph-
War at home: "you only got into that ivy league college because of Affermative action."
Family guy: The dog barks every time he sees a black person. And when he dated a black women he kept making remarks about martin luther king. AND they said "we stop slavery, the least u could do is stay away from my family".
OMG I can name soo many.


I dont think comedy counts... I thought you meant real racism. Man everyone gets made fun of in comedy... gays, asians, australians, rednecks, yanks, whites, blacks... Its not a good example of genuine racism.

and that was 2 anyway.. i said 3 -_-

Terumoto 10-04-05 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by N.A.C.
no, read what i edited into my last post

i made no generalization, "they" are the non-blacks who cant respect blacks enough to not say one word... and thats what i was talking about, you just made up the part about all whites, i didnt say that.


Well sorry. Since indeph said he hates how white people do it, then you quoted him and said "ex-motherfuckin-actly... i hate how they do that"

I just gathered through comprehension that you meant white people.

Blay'all 10-04-05 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by One Man Band
Well sorry. Since indeph said he hates how white people do it, then you quoted him and said "ex-motherfuckin-actly... i hate how they do that"

I just gathered through comprehension that you meant white people.

well, I mean it IS white people, but not ALL white people
kinda like how a square is a rectangle but a rectangle isnt always a square, nah mean? you cant switch it around...

but yeah, i can see how by me quoting him u thought that, but its not like that
im just talking about the annoying kids who say the word all the time

hell, im white
im not talking about all white people.

N.Tavarez 10-04-05 05:36 PM

i think every culture has racist tendencies, some more than others
every culture has degrading words, like im spanish so someone might call me
a " spic".....the thing with the n word is that hip hop shouts it so much in most cds
if anyone memorizes the words to a 50 song chances are they are reciting nigga at least once...............it depends on the intent behind the word, the way u use it can empower it or take away from it...............and OMB multi battle me damnit :cussing:

Indeph 10-04-05 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by One Man Band
I dont think comedy counts... I thought you meant real racism. Man everyone gets made fun of in comedy... gays, asians, australians, rednecks, yanks, whites, blacks... Its not a good example of genuine racism.

and that was 2 anyway.. i said 3 -_-




Well on desperate housewives the new black people and ONLY black people are the "villains". And on the real world(do not deny this please) every black person to get on that show has been a villain. And the strongly obvious and somewhat played subject of hurrican katrina. You know the whole black ppl looting and white people "finding" newspaper article. Its hard for me cause I know not all white ppl are racist. But this always happens. Non racist white ppl get bitter about black ppl talking about it. But what we spose to do? Sit there and let it happen? Fuck no. All the other races are just letting the stereostypes get thrown at em and let the people stomp on them. I WILL NOT be 2nd to anybody cause of my skin. Nope.

Terumoto 10-04-05 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by -Indeph-
Well on desperate housewives the new black people and ONLY black people are the "villains". And on the real world(do not deny this please) every black person to get on that show has been a villain. And the strongly obvious and somewhat played subject of hurrican katrina. You know the whole black ppl looting and white people "finding" newspaper article. Its hard for me cause I know not all white ppl are racist. But this always happens. Non racist white ppl get bitter about black ppl talking about it. But what we spose to do? Sit there and let it happen? Fuck no. All the other races are just letting the stereostypes get thrown at em and let the people stomp on them. I WILL NOT be 2nd to anybody cause of my skin. Nope.


Well yeah I see where you're coming from.

What can ya do though... racism will always exist.

Blay'all 10-04-05 05:40 PM

OMB i posted on the last page.

check it out

Terumoto 10-04-05 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by hotshh!
...............and OMB multi battle me damnit :cussing:


ahh.. im so over multi battling...

but set it up I guess. make it 3 days to check 3 days to drop, cos im real busy with shit.

Indeph 10-04-05 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by One Man Band
Well yeah I see where you're coming from.

What can ya do though... racism will always exist.



Yeah word. And the fucked up thing is us black people are making it worse for ourselves. Like little brother's minstrel show album. Rappers now are being the black stereostype and making it worse. So yeah :( nothing I can do.

Terumoto 10-04-05 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by -Indeph-
Yeah word. And the fucked up thing is us black people are making it worse for ourselves. Like little brother's minstrel show album. Rappers now are being the black stereostype and making it worse. So yeah :( nothing I can do.


You know whats ironic though? Their fanbases consist of mostly white people. The more blacks submit to being stereotypes, the less respected they become by the reals, and people like you start to dislike members of your own race. -_-

Indeph 10-04-05 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by One Man Band
You know whats ironic though? Their fanbases consist of mostly white people. The more blacks submit to being stereotypes, the less respected they become by the reals, and people like you start to dislike members of your own race. -_-



Yeah EXACTLY. That's one reason I like kanye so much. He's popular and doesn't talk about that shit. The gun shit and drug shit yes that IS a reality, but I feel the black people who don't do that shit don't have a voice. Like picture an upper class suburban black kid. He either doesn't listen to rap cause it doesn't relate to him or he listens to rap and he's BECOME the stereotype. I swear I'ma change that shit. :cussing: With help of compose :)

Tha Q. 10-04-05 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by -Indeph-
Well on desperate housewives the new black people and ONLY black people are the "villains". And on the real world(do not deny this please) every black person to get on that show has been a villain. And the strongly obvious and somewhat played subject of hurrican katrina. You know the whole black ppl looting and white people "finding" newspaper article. Its hard for me cause I know not all white ppl are racist. But this always happens. Non racist white ppl get bitter about black ppl talking about it. But what we spose to do? Sit there and let it happen? Fuck no. All the other races are just letting the stereostypes get thrown at em and let the people stomp on them. I WILL NOT be 2nd to anybody cause of my skin. Nope.



^^That;s not true...Heather B was very popular on the Real World.

Indeph 10-04-05 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Tha Q.
^^That;s not true...Heather B was very popular on the Real World.



Not to people around here. They hated her. They always talked about her. Its probably my area.

Tha Q. 10-04-05 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by -Indeph-
Not to people around here. They hated her. They always talked about her. Its probably my area.




I j ust think your statement is a generalization...

The Black guy (Steve) who slapped the whit chick (CLASSIC) wasn't arrested nor sent home...


but PUCK was sent home for being an asshole, basically...

Indeph 10-04-05 06:01 PM

There's still a whole tolken thing about it. They know black people would freak even if it was fair. Like I said not all black people are saints and not all whites are evil. Just one side of the scale is more oppressed.

Tha Q. 10-04-05 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by -Indeph-
There's still a whole tolken thing about it. They know black people would freak even if it was fair. Like I said not all black people are saints and not all whites are evil. Just one side of the scale is more oppressed.



Of course...but some people (LEADY) think other people (ME) make a big deal out of it...Trust me...I don't


I know how the game works


and my grandmother and anyone else over 60 would BEG to disagree that black people are just "making a fuss" about nothing...

pssf


racism wasn't a joke and is still around...

I just think the face of racism has changed drastically...it's more psychological and economic now than ever

Dabatos 10-04-05 06:08 PM

wow jst been acouple hours n this much posts in this?? haha.. seroiusly surprised me even more.. i thought ppl would hate on me.. iono y wen i did nothing wrong.. but WOW lol

Black Queen 10-04-05 06:11 PM

i dont see whats so bad about white people sayin ''nigga'' it doesnt offend me and if it offend otha black people than they shouldnt say it either i mean come on whats the point of getting mad about it

Indeph 10-04-05 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Mysteri
i dont see whats so bad about white people sayin ''nigga'' it doesnt offend me and if it offend otha black people than they shouldnt say it either i mean come on whats the point of getting mad about it


I could explain it to you on aim. This thread is dead.

Tha Q. 10-04-05 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by -Indeph-
I could explain it to you on aim. This thread is dead.



so now ur point of view is better than everyone elses?


pssf

Tha Q. 10-04-05 06:26 PM

Originally Posted by Mysteri
i dont see whats so bad about white people sayin ''nigga'' it doesnt offend me and if it offend otha black people than they shouldnt say it either i mean come on whats the point of getting mad about it


^^Do you know the history of that word dawg?

ksr 10-04-05 06:29 PM

wow at 100 posts in less than a day
but... back on topic....
i'm white n i just dont say the word cause it makes me feel uncomfortable sorta. ive gotten to the point where i dont even think of race, if i see two people who i dont kno n there of different races (eg. 1 black, 1 white) i think the same of both of them. i aint racist at all, and i dont want to be seen as one, which is y i dont use the n-word at all... but by principle, both views seem 2 make sense... if i was black it wud make sense to want ppl not 2 use a word that was invented 4 derogatory use towards blacks... and i can also understand y some1 wudnt mind if a white person sed it in a friendly way to 1 of their friends... basically i think its a personal thing 4 different ppl

Indeph 10-04-05 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Tha Q.
so now ur point of view is better than everyone elses?


pssf



No all the active posters in this thread have stopped. That's why I said the thread is dead and not "stop posting here". So pssf back at you.

Indeph 10-04-05 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by -KSR-
wow at 100 posts in less than a day
but... back on topic....
i'm white n i just dont say the word cause it makes me feel uncomfortable sorta. ive gotten to the point where i dont even think of race, if i see two people who i dont kno n there of different races (eg. 1 black, 1 white) i think the same of both of them. i aint racist at all, and i dont want to be seen as one, which is y i dont use the n-word at all... but by principle, both views seem 2 make sense... if i was black it wud make sense to want ppl not 2 use a word that was invented 4 derogatory use towards blacks... and i can also understand y some1 wudnt mind if a white person sed it in a friendly way to 1 of their friends... basically i think its a personal thing 4 different ppl



Ha smart man here. :thumbup:

Tha Q. 10-04-05 06:36 PM

O...and Dabatos...to truly answer ur question...if someone who was obvioulsy white said Nigger in my presence, I'd give them the "U MUST BE DUMB" look...and if they had something to say, I'd correct them on the spot...that's the best way to handle that situation...esp. if it's someone you're gonna be constantly around and not just a stranger.

Big City 10-04-05 06:58 PM

wit me it dont really matter, but it gets on my nerves when white people use it just bcuz they think it sounds cool. but not all white people are like that tho. But some people think its a generation gap. lik emy parents would hate to hear anybody, black or white to say it, but im from a different generation where the word was given a positive connotation.
i aint gon lie. im racist as hell. but if you are equally racist to everybody then you good. nah mean

Tha Q. 10-04-05 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Big City
wit me it dont really matter, but it gets on my nerves when white people use it just bcuz they think it sounds cool. but not all white people are like that tho. But some people think its a generation gap. lik emy parents would hate to hear anybody, black or white to say it, but im from a different generation where the word was given a positive connotation.
i aint gon lie. im racist as hell. but if you are equally racist to everybody then you good. nah mean



gud luck running "THAT" business.

Abraxas 10-04-05 09:17 PM

In my hood if you white and you say nigga to a black man(like me) they be ganging all up on you...they dont care if a hispanic person says it....

Magic5 10-04-05 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by N.A.C.
I love how as soon as i make a point nobody actually responds to it tho, they just talk about some kind of technicality in what i said or some shit.


I know.. it's almost like people get off the net every once in a while and shit.

Magic5 10-04-05 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by N.A.C.
and i also meant to say played the word out......

as in the fact that before recently, blacks werent the ones using this word, so yes... i asked if he's ever heard of pre-1900 history by saying that "black people" played the word out.
and im the idiot?



wow, i just looked up at this whole 4th page... and Mim?
*brushes off nuts*


Black people played the slang version of the word out. In slavery times I doubt many slave owners would go up and be like "wassup, my nigga!"

But yeah, are a complete idiot and it's quite humorous when you toss in those gay ass closers thinking you just 'owned' me or something.

Magic5 10-04-05 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Tha Q.
all I know is...when that nigg"a" becomes nigg"er"...we DEF. got a problem...and somebody gettin their ass kicked most likely...

esp. a white person who says it around balck people...

but..come on people...who are we kidding? we all know white folk still use that word


I'd have no problem using it to get a fight started.. other then that.. I'd probably pass on the -er ending.

Magic5 10-04-05 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by -Indeph-
Jesus christ. White people need to stop thinking about the word. OMG is it eating up people that much that they can't say one word? You can't restrict yourself from saying one fuckin word knowing it offends somebody? Are you fuckin serious? Little ass kids... you people need to grow the fuck up. YES YOU PEOPLE.Stop making guess about a group of people. SHUT THE FUCK UP. God damn it I hate this country.


If you hate the country.. move the fuck out. Seriously. People do it all the time. If you hate this shit so fucking bad, why the fuck you still here?

And yeah, I think it's stupid one word is restricted from my vocabulary when another race claims they and only they have the right to say it.

But of course, I need to grow up because my arguement is complete bullshit and I'm just ignorant.

^^ Now you don't even need to post a reply.. I got your back, yo.

Magic5 10-04-05 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by One Man Band
and 1% is mimesis. Mimesis doesnt care about black people. [/kanye]


Haha. It ain't like that, for real. I just think it's stupid that a word that is used for fucking slang now-a-days can be limited only to one race.

So, in that sense, I could really give a fuck less what anybody thinks about my word choice when I talk to my friends or make jokes and shit.


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