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Tha Q. 10-19-05 04:52 PM

I think it's a way to focus more on the sport than the flash...


sorta like college ball


iono


I just say this news flash on TV

KriZ 10-19-05 04:59 PM

I am... so confused..... all i kno is that it isnt racist to ask ppl to wear a drescode... We got a dress code down here at our skool. But yeah the chain thing does go a bit 2 far.

Blay'all 10-19-05 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by KriZ
I am... so confused..... all i kno is that it isnt racist to ask ppl to wear a drescode... We got a dress code down here at our skool. But yeah the chain thing does go a bit 2 far.

It's more culturally targeted, the culture which the whole league is almost based off of, and that's what's upsetting alot of people.

Sean Gunner 10-19-05 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by I-NOC
^ people do care about that, lol hence the derogative term, "slut"


And the terms wigga and n***a. My point is that the only reason people care bout this is that it is the popular way people dress and act now. Shut up and go play the sport you are paid for. Stop trying to make money and get laid off the stuff you have, actually do your job and be a real role model for kids. People say only rap makes people dress like this? No, it's the sports players, it's the shows, and the media saying it's cool. If you said it wasn't cool on MTV for 5 years, dressing in baggy clothes and "bling" would be done.

People dressed in baggy clothes cuz it fit them, that's why. Then people started to act like it's cool to be poor, thus leading to the media agreeing, now we can't turn around until at least 3 generations say it is not cool. If you dress in baggy clothes, have your pants down past your waist, brag on your tracks, and wear flashy shoes and jewelry then in my eyes, you cause the problems you complain of.

Blay'all 10-19-05 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by The Revelation
And the terms wigga and n***a. My point is that the only reason people care bout this is that it is the popular way people dress and act now. Shut up and go play the sport you are paid for. Stop trying to make money and get laid off the stuff you have, actually do your job and be a real role model for kids. People say only rap makes people dress like this? No, it's the sports players, it's the shows, and the media saying it's cool. If you said it wasn't cool on MTV for 5 years, dressing in baggy clothes and "bling" would be done.

People dressed in baggy clothes cuz it fit them, that's why. Then people started to act like it's cool to be poor, thus leading to the media agreeing, now we can't turn around until at least 3 generations say it is not cool. If you dress in baggy clothes, have your pants down past your waist, brag on your tracks, and wear flashy shoes and jewelry then in my eyes, you cause the problems you complain of.

which I would accept, IF THE LEAGUE DIDNT MARKET THE IMAGE THEMSELVES!!!!

The players should at least be able to live it.

Blay'all 10-19-05 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by efecx
no it aint basketball been around alot longer than hiphop so how can basketball be based off hiphop

I said the league, not basketball.


History doesn't matter here, the fact is the league NOW is highly dependent on hip-hop culture in itself.

Blay'all 10-19-05 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by efecx
but wtf has that got to do wit wat their staff wear to work

Because, if it weren't for "their players" wearing that clothing in public and on the way to and from appearences, they wouldn't have nearly the support, money, or interest that they do in the league.

I'm really trying to say this without sounding rude b/c I'm not trying to be rude at all, but if you don't live in the U.S. then you really can't argue this. At least not the marketing part, b/c you don't know how it is.

Blay'all 10-19-05 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by efecx
lol i never said their players so there is no need to put it in quotation marks

n the players interest in a music that is so big in america has nuthin to do wit the way the league is ran

n ive been to the us before, hav friends living there and we get alot of american advertising and tv here so i can talk bout it cause i know wat u mean and i see the connectionb etween hiphop and basketball but their staff clothing for working hours has nuthin to do wit discriminating against hiphop it just simply looks professional

Argh, but what I'm saying is that if the league wants a "professional" image, then why don't they show ads of people drinking tea and watching a smashing game of hoops?

Blay'all 10-19-05 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by efecx
look seriously hav u ever takin a business class or looked into they abuse the audience to wat they like to interest them in sumthin that nesicerilly isnt connected to that product or watever so thats all the nba marketing is doing because they know it grabs attention but that still doesnt take away from the fact that they like there staff lookin professional going n coming bk form games

huh ?

lol, where's Mim, I need a translation.

Punctuation really helps fam, at least some.
To make it readable.

Blay'all 10-19-05 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by efecx
blah lol i cant be bothered no more im out

Haha, nah my bad I didn't mean to take away from the topic, but I really don't think anything new was said :huh:

M Eazy 10-19-05 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Mimesis
Lmao. Dressing professionally is racist?

Stop pulling the race card with every fucking thing. It's not a big deal, and in no way, shape, or form is dressing formal racist.

Fucking Jesus.



Yo, go sit yo cracker jack ass down somewhere. Have you noticed all white people say that shit. If it was flipped around and white people get pre-judged and steotyped, then they would be saying the same thing. I think the dress code is stupid, and the NBA should boycott, well at least alot of the players, but that's gonna take a lot of time and coroporation. Really, I think David Stern just lowered his self. A.I. is really pissed about it.

K.ontroverz.Y 10-19-05 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Mimesis
Lmao. Dressing professionally is racist?

Stop pulling the race card with every fucking thing. It's not a big deal, and in no way, shape, or form is dressing formal racist.

Fucking Jesus.


who are you talking too? LOL

and yeah it aint racist. but that shits stupid as fuck. You should be able to dress the way you want. you earned it. Why the fuck are they making everyone follow one dress code. why can't everyone follow hiphop dress code.

what because people who where hip hop clothing are suppost to be gangsters?

thats not how it is at all people are just fucking stupid and because the majority of criminals dress hiphop. doesn't mean everyone does. same thing as sayin all asians know kung-fu...fuck is that shit!

i say you should dress the way you want.

end of story


this made me mad to hear this :@:@:@:

Magic5 10-19-05 09:35 PM

Yeah, I'm done arguing in this thread.

I've said everything I've need to, and going on would just be me repeating the same shit over and over again.

ksr 10-19-05 09:37 PM

how the fuck is that racist?
duz that means that if they tell the white ballers to dress formally they just want to make there appearance look more proffesional, but if they ask the black ballers to dress formally its racist?
n i dunno if ne1 else has noticed, but a lot of rappers DO wear proffesional clothing
jay-z rocks a suit in a lot of the pics ull see of him, a lot a southern artists are doint it 2...
so its not really "anti-hiphop culture" either
its not so hard to c where the nba's comin from here, they want to make the league look more proffesional n give it a better public appearance

Spider 10-19-05 09:39 PM

u shoulda just made a poll

K.ontroverz.Y 10-19-05 09:40 PM

KSR. why should we follow that dresscode?

Magic5 10-19-05 09:42 PM

..Because you dress professionally for any serious job.

distilled 10-19-05 09:43 PM

I know this will obviously have been said.

But It Sucks That people ave to bring Race into this, It's Just a Company Introducing a dress code to their employees, and the eployees hapen to be famous sportstar celebrities.


Fuck that, This Has Nothing To Do With Race.

ksr 10-19-05 09:44 PM

^^lol, u aint gotta follow shit (to kon)
dont feel so bad for the nba players either
they get payed millions of dollars a year to play a GAME
they dont do nethin for society, n they have fun doin it
n they make more than tons of people who r makin a difference in the world
now they have to wear clothes to that job that MOST people have to wear to there boring, low-paying jobs
please tell me how this is unfair, racist, or nethin else bad 4 them

distilled 10-19-05 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Texaco
Yo, go sit yo cracker jack ass down somewhere. Have you noticed all white people say that shit. If it was flipped around and white people get pre-judged and steotyped, then they would be saying the same thing. I think the dress code is stupid, and the NBA should boycott, well at least alot of the players, but that's gonna take a lot of time and coroporation. Really, I think David Stern just lowered his self. A.I. is really pissed about it.


That Jus Blatant Fucking Ignorant Racism From YOU. What The Fuck. People Like You Are Keeping Racism Alive By Way Overblowing Small Shit Like This. And then Claiming Every Fuckin White Person Is a Racist.

Stop The Bullshit, Open Your Fucking Ears And Listen to What Your Trying To Say.

fucking Moron.

Magic5 10-19-05 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by distilled
I know this will obviously have been said.

But It Sucks That people ave to bring Race into this, It's Just a Company Introducing a dress code to their employees, and the eployees hapen to be famous sportstar celebrities.


Fuck that, This Has Nothing To Do With Race.


Check like, the second post in this thread. I already merked this shit, for real.

distilled 10-19-05 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Mimesis
Check like, the second post in this thread. I already merked this shit, for real.


I Expected you Would.

I'm Just Backing You Up ;)

ksr 10-19-05 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Texaco
Yo, go sit yo cracker jack ass down somewhere. Have you noticed all white people say that shit. If it was flipped around and white people get pre-judged and steotyped, then they would be saying the same thing. I think the dress code is stupid, and the NBA should boycott, well at least alot of the players, but that's gonna take a lot of time and coroporation. Really, I think David Stern just lowered his self. A.I. is really pissed about it.

he aint bein racist, he's givin his honest thoughts bout this
but U r prejudgin n stereotypin HIM cuz he's white
is every other job wit a dresscode racist 2?

Tha Q. 10-19-05 09:54 PM

Actually...I understand what I Noc means...But, he's mistaken in this case...

Example...Let's say a Black woman works in "corporate" America and has a white boss. This black woman dresses in Kinte Cloth and rocks dred-locks. So, the boss calls her in and says "I think a more "traditional" business look is appropriate. She could argue he's being CULTURALLY insensitive, if not racist.

So...this is a very delicate issue I-NOC...I don't think this is racist. I get the impression they're trying to send a message to the younger kids who dream of being in the NBA that it's about talent and not bling.


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Blay'all 10-19-05 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by -KSR-
he aint bein racist, he's givin his honest thoughts bout this
but U r prejudgin n stereotypin HIM cuz he's white
is every other job wit a dresscode racist 2?

every other job does not market the hip-hop culture !!!!!!!!

Im so sick of saying that, you cant compare the NBA to other businesses in this aspect, its totally different

Blay'all 10-19-05 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Tha Q.
Actually...I understand what I Noc means...But, he's mistaken in this case...

Example...Let's say a Black woman works in "corporate" America and has a white boss. This black woman dresses in Kinte Cloth and rocks dred-locks. So, the boss calls her in and says "I think a more "traditional" business look is appropriate. She could argue he's being CULTURALLY insensitive, if not racist.

So...this is a very delicate issue I-NOC...I don't think this is racist. I get the impression they're trying to send a message to the younger kids who dream of being in the NBA that it's about talent and not bling.


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oh, if you scroll through the thread you'll see im not arguing that this is racist


That was just the title because that was the title of the article or poll or w/e on ESPN, so I was presentint it to ya'll in that manner

ksr 10-19-05 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by I-NOC
every other job does not market the hip-hop culture !!!!!!!!

Im so sick of saying that, you cant compare the NBA to other businesses in this aspect, its totally different

wutchu say to my other post, the 1 bout there job not bein so bad in the 1st place

Tha Q. 10-19-05 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by I-NOC
oh, if you scroll through the thread you'll see im not arguing that this is racist


That was just the title because that was the title of the article or poll or w/e on ESPN, so I was presentint it to ya'll in that manner



not that it matters, but I'm curious

u w or b?


and where are u from?



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Blay'all 10-19-05 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by -KSR-
wutchu say to my other post, the 1 bout there job not bein so bad in the 1st place

Umm, well if you're saying that they "have it easy"


they worked their whole fucking lives for this, completely dedicated, I dont think professional athletes have it easy at all.... you know how hard it is to get to the NBA? They deserve some respect. And to not be treated like some schoolgirl in a uniform.... their uniform is the jersey they put on at game time, thats it.

Blay'all 10-19-05 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Tha Q.
not that it matters, but I'm curious

u w or b?


and where are u from?



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lol, this Blay yo

Im white, from the South

ksr 10-19-05 10:05 PM

^^u think they DESERVE the money there gettin paid?

Blay'all 10-19-05 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by -KSR-
^^u think they DESERVE the money there gettin paid?

yes, I actually wrote an editorial about this for our newspaper


If they dont deserve the money, then WHO does?
What people dont understand is that nobody sits back and decides how much to pay these guys, people buy tickets to the games, buy merchandise, and that decides a player's paycheck. They bring in the fans, and it definitely shouldnt be sitting in the GM's pockets.....

Tha Q. 10-19-05 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by I-NOC
lol, this Blay yo

Im white, from the South



o sup dawg


i was bout to asl A/S/L...so I cud cyber :hump:


eeeeeeeeer SIKE...


but yea...let's say this was racist...Something else that bothers me is how people deny the incidence of ANYTHING racial? I'm like, "exactly when is something ever racially motivated then?" That's the problem with racism in my opinion. It's subtle in so many ways. Back in the 1950s and 60s, they would literally spit in a black man's face. Today, they do it by denying him credit or erecting other economic barriers they know minorities will have a tough time overcoming. It's a game they force us all to play with out giving us the rules or instructions. It's up to the individual to figure it all out.



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