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Blay'all 11-13-05 06:06 PM

thats what your momma said last night :thumbup:


:(

Indeph 11-13-05 06:07 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by BL4Y
thats what your momma said last night :thumbup:


:(



Lmao ouch son

Blay'all 11-13-05 06:10 PM

w/e man, fuck wit my money, not me. :shoot:

Vaskez 11-13-05 07:45 PM

lol @ vocab means nothing. Ya heard Canibus Poet Laureate II? The vocab in that is cool, bt not everyone will understand it. I reckon it lifts the song having good vocab

Vaskez 11-13-05 07:46 PM

Anyway I of course like some of Em's stuff, but as someone else said I find his voice annoying and some of his songs complete garbage.

Poetics 11-13-05 09:16 PM

i think he settles...
but EM is lyrically superior to most cat's..but i just cant take him serious..his persona confuses me in the sense that ..im not sure as to what he trying to personify??????

Em the Enigma

Ysdat 11-13-05 10:56 PM

lol @ dus giving cred and compose heaps. :)

M.C. Streak 11-14-05 02:40 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cho-Kahn MiWang
VOCAB is a LOT in RAP...no vocal=no words....ur expression is LIMITED...WTF

AND..EMINEM ??? BEST ?? BWAHAHAH..his 1st few albums were HOTTTT but..don't make him the best..wtf's wrong w ur ass ?

look at wtf happen to him man...i gave his last Cd away and the eminem show..garbage..

he got weak man..and he's not rounded near enough ...he's a great battle rapper and a skilled lyricist..but not NEAR "the best"...who we all know is me =]


if you have to much of an extended vocabulary it's not good...you'll sound like your reciting a poem or an essay or an excerpt from a book and that's another reason tha canibus gets so badly overrated people are impressed with a huge ocabulary more than listening to more of what he says not saying he ain't ill but look you are ill in any way your lyrics don't have to be an extremely extended vocab to make it ill

Bangalore 11-14-05 02:54 PM

because there are guys like canibus .... eyedea and atmosphere out there... o yea sage francis and j-live and a million other better MC's

M.C. Streak 11-15-05 02:36 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr.Pookey Pants
because there are guys like canibus .... eyedea and atmosphere out there... o yea sage francis and j-live and a million other better MC's

em is far from the best but he shits over al those guysmaybe not eyedea in freestyling but str8 out lyrics eminem owns him...and atmosphere can be some retarded emo rap at times

GBless 11-15-05 07:42 PM

I think he is the best all around rapper....

Young Crip 11-15-05 09:53 PM

word up hes da best.. :shoot:

Gangsta Kim 11-24-05 02:37 PM

YEYE i think em has the greatest lyrics EVER heard too.......

Gangsta Kim 11-24-05 02:39 PM

I mean come on he lived his raps , there not just shit he pulled outa his ass........... IT HAPPENED

20 GraND 11-24-05 02:40 PM

i really really hate em's voice

J. Luth 11-24-05 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Mimesis
That doesn't make your case. I'm not new to rap and I still think Eminem is a legend.

word same. fuck em's haters. :shoot:

M.C. Streak 11-25-05 12:26 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gangsta Kim
I mean come on he lived his raps , there not just shit he pulled outa his ass........... IT HAPPENED

to me it dont matter if you live it or not respect the music for what it is you do know Pac never really lived up to what he rapped about...people even say when he came to Cali he was very different then in his songs.

Quote:
Originally Posted by 20 GRaND
i really really hate em's voice


i think the same.

.Ike. 11-25-05 12:36 AM

he's good...

but...


have u listened to fack? thats why hes not the best ever

Kriptic 11-25-05 08:37 PM

hahaha yeah, he was the best, until the eminemshow..then he was real good... not really hardcore...and then FACK.. omg. wtf? is he trying to get ppl to stop listing to him..so he can stop rapping? lol

Mentor 11-27-05 08:26 PM

"so when you see me dressin up like a nerd on tv
or heard this cd usin the fag word so freely
it's just me being me want me ta tone it down?
SUCK MY FUCKIN DICK YOU FAGGOT
there you happy now?"

B-MAC 11-27-05 10:06 PM

Download "Nuttin to Do" Eminem Ft Royce

Listen and shut up.. Em Rules..

*yawns* Forget a chorus -- my metaphors are so complicated
it takes six minutes to get applause (yay)
And by the time you all catch on, I'ma end your career
and walk away with the whole floor so you have nothin to fall back on!
I'll throw you off of ten floors .. *AHHHHHHH*
Pull a fuckin headache outta my head, and put it in yours (take this)
I'm indoors, waitin for this acid to seep in my skin pores
to go outdoors and do some in-stores
This bitch wanted to blow me, I said, "It oughta happen.
You swallow cum bitch?" "No, but I brought a napkin"
Gettin skullie while I'm autographin
Got my daughter laughin cause I sent her mother whitewater raftin
I'm not a fact, I'ma proven fear
Mr. Rogers blocked up my U-haul screamin,
"Wait, wait, wait.. you ain't movin here!"
Lorena Bobbitt, c'mere, want a souveneir?
I've been high as fuck, since I was a juvi-neer
Juvenile? Same difference -- I need some 'caine
cause I ain't sniffed since I woke up the seven slain infants
(Oh my God!) Brain implants and they say there's a slim chance
I won't stay the same cause I traded brains with a chimpanz'

Tha Q. 11-28-05 03:39 AM

Eminem is sooo overrated it's not funny...The man is talented, yes. However, so is Busta Rhymes. And, I've long said that they were about equally talented. Busta is mad creative and has an amazing flow. The only reason EM is spoken so highly of is because he's white. PERIOD.


Again, if EM were black, he's be your average run-of-the-mill rapper.

B-MAC 11-28-05 10:15 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tha Q.
Eminem is sooo overrated it's not funny...The man is talented, yes. However, so is Busta Rhymes. And, I've long said that they were about equally talented. Busta is mad creative and has an amazing flow. The only reason EM is spoken so highly of is because he's white. PERIOD.


Again, if EM were black, he's be your average run-of-the-mill rapper.



word... same thing goes with Tiger Woods in golf. Yes the man is a awesoem golg player, but there are alot of other good golf players, just as good as him, the only reason he is talked about so much, cause hes Black..

Hannibal 11-28-05 12:00 PM

Im a massive fan of Em but Encore was weak too unfocused like his last few albums. His first album is still his best just raw beats and uncut lyrical content.
Hes in my top 5 but i think Chino XL is nicer than Em lyrically forget abouyt sales theres a lot of rappers out there nicer than Em lyrically but they dont get the exposure that he does. If you think Em is nice go listen to Chino, Ras Kass and Vakill there just as nice if not nicer.

flirtacious 08-24-06 11:23 PM

eminem is d best!!! go white trash

In-Vision 08-25-06 02:07 AM

black thought is better...
lyrically...canibus is better...way the fuck better
common is better
soup from jurassic 5 is better


to say eminem has the greatest lyrics ever heard is retarded....extrmemely retarded...eminem spits mediocre to good multies..with rarely having a standout line...

all the artists i just named...get quoted the fuck out of em....eminem is a good lyricist..but it's his delivery and style that make it appealing..not his above average lyrics

In-Vision 08-25-06 02:10 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by B-MAC
word... same thing goes with Tiger Woods in golf. Yes the man is a awesoem golg player, but there are alot of other good golf players, just as good as him, the only reason he is talked about so much, cause hes Black..


this is just retarded...tiger words has one more pro tours than any golfer in hsitory..he's won like..90 pga's

La Cosa Nostra 08-25-06 02:12 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Thoth
black thought is better...
lyrically...canibus is better...way the fuck better
common is better
soup from jurassic 5 is better


no no no and no.......

In-Vision 08-25-06 02:20 AM

yeah, yeah, yeah and yeah



why do people insist on having retarded replies, that are completely pointless, and don't contribute to anything in any way?....seriously...if you don't agree....cool...but...i could say i honestly think you might be a woman...but..that's pretty pointless to say without some kind of an explanation....find something better to do than checking threads for the first thing you can argue with

Dabatos 08-25-06 02:33 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Peace
compose, I have infinite... i have unreleased shit when he was 17.

Compose, I have ass like that, i have my band.

Those last too songs is him making a mockery of rap and those who listen to it by saying " i can make anything and it will sell"
Alot of wack kids dont have an understanding for rap, eminem helped when he was dropping tracks like till hell freezes over, but once he hit eminem show, he backfired his own passion and made non rap songs, and sold them as rap songs.

Ass like that, my band and numerous other song he has made recenlty, simply to express how wack it is at the top.
he put out mosh and my band at the same time. The effect he tried to get with mosh, just got reversed by making my band.

He has alot of power, he could be using it to re shape rap back into solid real raw underground style music.


he is one of the many that have wrongly commercialised rap with wack tracks.

Why doesnt he commercialize it with his original style?



why will he have to settle himself as the best when he already has, he already dropped one of the most dopest albums ever, almost everyday when I walk down the street I hear people bumpin his music. yea his latest albums wern't as amazing, but hey, what artist has dropped every single albums as hott as his last one?

Compose 08-25-06 03:06 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Thoth
black thought is better...
lyrically...canibus is better...way the fuck better
common is better
soup from jurassic 5 is better


to say eminem has the greatest lyrics ever heard is retarded....extrmemely retarded...eminem spits mediocre to good multies..with rarely having a standout line...

all the artists i just named...get quoted the fuck out of em....eminem is a good lyricist..but it's his delivery and style that make it appealing..not his above average lyrics

i never heard soup from jurassic 5 so i cant comment, but common is NOWHERE near eminem, mos def and kweli are better then common...i listen to all of them and have all their albums and shit and imo common is a person i listen to when im bored or in 'his' mood i gotta be in the mood to listen to common, its not like that with eminem cuz he captures almost all of the moods imo, when im mad,sad,happy etc. i can listen to different em songs...common seems like a sissy hippie, not to say hes not dope...but he's just on that love shit all the time and his wordplay is too old school for this generation, chino xl shits on common as far as that goes he shits on anybody when it comes to wordplay imo, black thought is dope but you said eminem's delivery carry above his lyrics...black thought's delivery is ASS sometimes, canibus in his prime is better then eminem in lyrics but in songs i'd give it to em cuz he has a wide variety of moods and songs, canibus in his prime just constantly spit angry raps all the time, which is dope but theres no variety when it comes to being the best overall

KOOL COL-B 08-25-06 03:19 AM

old skool Eminem iz my 2nd fav rapper. dope ass multies n he got that kinda gangsta shit, u know, makes me wanna git a gun n start shootin innocent men, women and children. shits illy. werd

schema 08-25-06 12:11 PM

canibus is fucking trash...

listening to his music is like reading some gay ass emo poems on myspace...

i can see him curled up in his room with a dictionary jacking off and just using all the random words his nut lands on to make a verse...

vocab?...who the fuck cares
imagery?...wtf? IMAGERY? THESE ARE SONGS NOT FUCKING POEMS...

he has zero catchy songs ever...ill buss em you punish em is ALRIGHT just because rakim jumps on it and saves it from being another wack ass canibus song...

you could be the only guy in the middle of a bisexual girl orgy and if you popped in a canibus cd youd be jacking off that night...

canibus is music for people that have never been to a club or party that sit on their computer all fucking day and do nothing else but somehow think they're cooler than everyone else...riiiiiight...his cd's are like 80 minute sleeping pills...

if you throw on some canibus for 100 people that have never heard it MAYBE two people will like it...maybe...and they would be the fat guy that kinda smells like cheese and the emo girl with the frizzy black hair that always has unexplained cuts on her arms and legs...

any time someone tells me they like canibus theyre suspect...if they tell me hes their favorite rapper...wait thats never happenned anywhere except...ON A COMPUTER...damn this shit is all starting to make sense...if canibus is your favorite rapper you need to get out more...find some music that makes you want to do something other than kill yourself...maybe *gasp* dance a little bit...maybe *double gasp* get laid...then come home and try to listen to your canibus cd's...

WHOA wait...no not the trash...cd's are plastic man recycle them...

SINISTER 08-25-06 12:41 PM

some of you like em, some dont....Period

J Summers 08-25-06 01:12 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by flirtacious
eminem is d best!!! go white trash


co-sign..........................

ILL GEE 08-25-06 01:28 PM

short and sweet... Em is a beast.... he's proved it time and time again... he never claimed to be the best... i ain't claiming he's da best... but his talent speaks for itself... originally i was a em hater when the first album came out... all i could think about was Vanilla Ice reborn... but... dude proved me wrong... he got crazy skills and it don't matter if ya black, white, asian, latino, or from the non-planet of pluto... if a dude is ill with the verbage ya gotta give up da props...

at least em has variety on his side... listen to his tracks and tell me how many actually sound the same... unlike other artist that get a formula and just run with it til there's nothing left... but boredom!

ILL GEE 08-25-06 01:41 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by schema
canibus is fucking trash...

listening to his music is like reading some gay ass emo poems on myspace...

i can see him curled up in his room with a dictionary jacking off and just using all the random words his nut lands on to make a verse...

vocab?...who the fuck cares
imagery?...wtf? IMAGERY? THESE ARE SONGS NOT FUCKING POEMS...

he has zero catchy songs ever...ill buss em you punish em is ALRIGHT just because rakim jumps on it and saves it from being another wack ass canibus song...

you could be the only guy in the middle of a bisexual girl orgy and if you popped in a canibus cd youd be jacking off that night...

canibus is music for people that have never been to a club or party that sit on their computer all fucking day and do nothing else but somehow think they're cooler than everyone else...riiiiiight...his cd's are like 80 minute sleeping pills...

if you throw on some canibus for 100 people that have never heard it MAYBE two people will like it...maybe...and they would be the fat guy that kinda smells like cheese and the emo girl with the frizzy black hair that always has unexplained cuts on her arms and legs...

any time someone tells me they like canibus theyre suspect...if they tell me hes their favorite rapper...wait thats never happenned anywhere except...ON A COMPUTER...damn this shit is all starting to make sense...if canibus is your favorite rapper you need to get out more...find some music that makes you want to do something other than kill yourself...maybe *gasp* dance a little bit...maybe *double gasp* get laid...then come home and try to listen to your canibus cd's...

WHOA wait...no not the trash...cd's are plastic man recycle them...

correction.... any REAL LYRICIST likes Canibus because that's what his focus is... the way he says shyt and how he says it is what appeals to kats that like Bis... I personally think the dude is dope... agreed.. he can't make an album that i'd listen to over and over again... but that's mainly a production thing... face it... he's beats usually suck ass.

the dude actually has a science degree... and is deep into computers so he has an intelligence not normally found in the average street rapper. if we all just did shyt that ended up in clubs then hip-hop would not be at the point it is today... suppose we all still rapped like kool moe dee or sugar hill gang... rap woulda died when they predicted it like 20 years ago...

case and point... dude is a lyricist... not a rapper... lyricists actually think about what they are saying and have some type of meaning behind why and how they say shyt... a rapper is a conformist who does things mainly because they wanna be accepted....

and for the record.... canibus can do commercial tracks if he really wanted to go that route... that track he did called "Into You" is a prime example... if you don't like him then fine... but don't try and say everyone else who likes him is wrong for doing so... hell, i don't like polka music or folklore but you don't hear me going around knocking other folks who do...

just sumn to think about... and i ain't one of them fat dudes you described or a comp geek... i just love hip-hop

schema 08-25-06 01:44 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by I.G.
correction.... any REAL LYRICIST likes Canibus because that's what his focus is... the way he says shyt and how he says it is what appeals to kats that like Bis... I personally think the dude is dope... agreed.. he can't make an album that i'd listen to over and over again... but that's mainly a production thing... face it... he's beats usually suck ass.

the dude actually has a science degree... and is deep into computers so he has an intelligence not normally found in the average street rapper. if we all just did shyt that ended up in clubs then hip-hop would not be at the point it is today... suppose we all still rapped like kool moe dee or sugar hill gang... rap woulda died when they predicted it like 20 years ago...

case and point... dude is a lyricist... not a rapper... lyricists actually think about what they are saying and have some type of meaning behind why and how they say shyt... a rapper is a conformist who does things mainly because they wanna be accepted....

and for the record.... canibus can do commercial tracks if he really wanted to go that route... that track he did called "Into You" is a prime example... if you don't like him then fine... but don't try and say everyone else who likes him is wrong for doing so... hell, i don't like polka music or folklore but you don't hear me going around knocking other folks who do...

just sumn to think about... and i ain't one of them fat dudes you described or a comp geek... i just love hip-hop


nah...he's a poet that writes dark emo-like poems...

which is fine...

until he starts rasping them over some shit ass beats and tries to call it hip hop...

just because something is hard to understand doesnt mean its special...

ILL GEE 08-25-06 01:58 PM

never said it was hard to understand... ok... do you like pac?... he's a poet... so you saying pac ain't hip-hop too right? let's call it what it is... most lyricists ARE poets... most rappers are rhymers.... rhymers are hiphop?... if that's the case then DR Seuss is prolly the most succesful hip hop artist in history!

chip 08-25-06 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Indeph
I mean seriously, he has the greatest lyrics EVER heard. He has underground and mainstream success. He's original, has humor, storytelling, and the best delivery/flow/ anything in the game. I've tried my BEST to figure out why people can say he's wack. Please humor me on how he's not the best. PLEASE.


i'd never call Em whack, but he does have a bunch of ppl on his dick, sayin he's the best ever and shit... i've heard murda mook, spit multi's and punches just as good as Eminem, but he gets hated on too... it's just ur opinion... to call one person the best lyricist ever is irresponsible and in my opinion, downright ignorant... everyone has their strong points and things they can improve on... for instance, when Em battles, and the other guy tries to jump in, Em'll spit a couple whack filler lines when he's runnin low on gas so he can think of somethin ill to say... no hate, but ppl are on his wood too much... he's only a man, tho, and i don't care if he's white, black or purple, no one is supreme over everyone, that's why he didn't win the rap olympics...


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