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Mad Dog 12-20-05 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Apexx
Why is that? God forbid that somebody white legitimately likes rap, instead of them trying to be black.


Despite what we're goin thru...thank fuck you pointed this out :thumbup:

Dirty Nigga 12-20-05 10:38 AM

lol @ Redbull bringin racism into it.

Naaah, yo....that got nothin to do with it.

Theres nothin at all wrong with whiteboys listnin too hip hop...

It's when y'all try and copy the urban lifestyle...(clothes, ''slang'', and what not)....then y'all will get called ''wiggers''

it ain't rocket science.

Viva 12-20-05 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by MeTaFo'
lol @ Redbull bringin racism into it.

Naaah, yo....that got nothin to do with it.

Theres nothin at all wrong with whiteboys listnin too hip hop...

It's when y'all try and copy the urban lifestyle...(clothes, ''slang'', and what not)....then y'all will get called ''wiggers''

it ain't rocket science.


thats stupid as fuck. ur sayin everyone who lives in poor areas n uses slang has to be black!!? ur just bringin ur own race down. If a white man lives in a ghetto and uses the commonly used slang words of his area, and wears baggy clothes but doesnt like hip hop, hes just been socialised that way. does that make him a wigger? Also if a white guy wears all preppy clothes, doesnt use slang but comes from a ghetto and raps, is he a wigger!?

Buck.Marley 12-20-05 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Viva
thats stupid as fuck. ur sayin everyone who lives in poor areas n uses slang has to be black!!? ur just bringin ur own race down. If a white man lives in a ghetto and uses the commonly used slang words of his area, and wears baggy clothes but doesnt like hip hop, hes just been socialised that way. does that make him a wigger? Also if a white guy wears all preppy clothes, doesnt use slang but comes from a ghetto and raps, is he a wigger!?

I love the way you take the things I say, and re-word them and twist them into a way that Proves me wrong, Thats cool....Can you teach me how to do it?

Your an aight bitch B.

but I cleary didnt say anythin about ''poor areas''.....Yes I said slang, cause before us black folk and our ''slang''....The whiteman never wanted to ''disgrace the english language'' with ebonics.

and I like the way you forgot to mention about white kids wearin saggy pants, timbos and chains and shit (clothes in general)...

Buck.Marley 12-20-05 11:41 AM

Actually wtf @m preppy clothes and all that shit becomin a rapper LOL...

Now your just being stupid as fuck, B and your goin out your way to try and prove a point in which you dont have a damn clue about.

Buck.Marley 12-20-05 11:47 AM

Actually, B...Before you even come at me with more lame shit...

Look at it from a black mans point of view...

Yeah, its aight y'all white kids listnin to hip hop, and even trynna take a hand in it yourself and pick up a mic....but just cause yall listen to hip hop and rhyme on a mic, why change your whole way of livin and try and immitate ours?

(I'm not sayin any one person on or offline is a ''wigger'' as such, and I'm not trynna say anythin about where people live or ny of that shit)
cause for real ....it doesnt go as deep as the area you live, a area doesnt make a person, a person makes a person. ya get me? and fact of the matter is....not one white male/female would of been clothed, or brought up by there parents to wear the shit youd usually associate witta black man and speak like we do, but..as the white kid gets older, and his taste in ''music'' develops, his whole attitude and out look on life changes, and they get too caught up in the whole ''rappers image''

do you understand where I'm comin from, yo?

13th. 12-20-05 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Mimesis
Lmao. Word. And, like, in your "Screw Your Prizes" track I knew EXACTLY what you were talking about when you were all ". . .and get a fitted hat so I can get called a wigger some more." That shit was the realness.

werd, i was thinking the same!

Buck.Marley 12-20-05 11:57 AM

Fuckin idiots.

You white people are dumb as fuck and obviously can only see this shit from your point of view.

Immense 12-20-05 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Buck.Marley
Fuckin idiots.

You white people are dumb as fuck and obviously can only see this shit from your point of view.



i read all the way through the thread waiting for a post like this...now shit will kick off...

every once in a while a black and white debate kicks off...the thread was a good one...but some morons took it the wrong way...

i know when someone loves hip-hop..and when someone just wants to act like their actually black...

i just love hip-hop simple..i talk how i talk..would be too difficult to put an accent on everyday...if i do use words that people may consider wiggerish....then its prolly just because ive picked it up off black people i know,and i cant help it...but meh... :thumbup:

Magic5 12-20-05 02:02 PM

Buck Marley, shut up. You're whole arguement is just as biased as some of the white dude's in this thread. You said shit like "a person makes a person," but who's to say that white person can't use ebonics or wear an assortment of clothes and shit? You?

Nah, I don't see how you can call somebody a "wigger" because they differientate from the norm for their race. Shit's queer.

Lyriclesolja 12-20-05 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Apexx
Why is that? God forbid that somebody white legitimately likes rap, instead of them trying to be black.

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yeah its like just cause i like rap i "want to be black" ....but when you see a black guy singing country music you dont think "he wants to be white"....bullshit double-standard

Indeph 12-20-05 05:24 PM

Because no one wants to support black music or culture..

Dirty Nigga 12-20-05 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Buck.Marley
Actually, B...Before you even come at me with more lame shit...

Look at it from a black mans point of view...

Yeah, its aight y'all white kids listnin to hip hop, and even trynna take a hand in it yourself and pick up a mic....but just cause yall listen to hip hop and rhyme on a mic, why change your whole way of livin and try and immitate ours?

(I'm not sayin any one person on or offline is a ''wigger'' as such, and I'm not trynna say anythin about where people live or ny of that shit)
cause for real ....it doesnt go as deep as the area you live, a area doesnt make a person, a person makes a person. ya get me? and fact of the matter is....not one white male/female would of been clothed, or brought up by there parents to wear the shit youd usually associate witta black man and speak like we do, but..as the white kid gets older, and his taste in ''music'' develops, his whole attitude and out look on life changes, and they get too caught up in the whole ''rappers image''

do you understand where I'm comin from, yo?

If y'all dumbasses who came at me sayin i'm just as bad or for Mimesis who didnt choose to read this, read it..........and if you disagree, let me know.

Dirty Nigga 12-20-05 05:27 PM

And whoever copied my quote of ''YOU WHITE PEOPLE''

What do y'all want me to call y'all?...the title of the thread even says white people, so I dont see what the big deal is

Magic5 12-20-05 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by MeTaFo'
If y'all dumbasses who came at me sayin i'm just as bad or for Mimesis who didnt choose to read this, read it..........and if you disagree, let me know.


I've already read it but I didn't see a reason to respond as it's bullshit.

But, I'll make you look like an idiot now that you asked.

Dirty Nigga 12-20-05 05:34 PM

.....Exactly my point

your obviously not gonna say ''Yeah whites are wiggers''

Just like I wouldnt trash talk my own race.

So if the truth went and slapped you in the face, you being human like the rest of us...would only go and deny the truth in order to have your races back.

Magic5 12-20-05 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Buck.Marley
Look at it from a black mans point of view...

Yeah, its aight y'all white kids listnin to hip hop, and even trynna take a hand in it yourself and pick up a mic....but just cause yall listen to hip hop and rhyme on a mic, why change your whole way of livin and try and immitate ours?


Who's to say that anybody changed their way of living? Ever since sixth grade I've worn clothes that have to do with hip hop. I didn't start rapping until I was in 8th grade. I didn't change my "whole way of life" to try and immitate yours. And by "yours" you're stereotyping all black people. I know black skaters, black rockers, etc. You're just proving to everybody that you're ignorant by classing a whole class of citizens together as one. So, I can already tell that you're whole arguement is going to be not only incorrect.. but flat out wrong.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Buck.Marley
(I'm not sayin any one person on or offline is a ''wigger'' as such, and I'm not trynna say anythin about where people live or ny of that shit)
cause for real ....it doesnt go as deep as the area you live, a area doesnt make a person, a person makes a person. ya get me? and fact of the matter is....not one white male/female would of been clothed, or brought up by there parents to wear the shit youd usually associate witta black man and speak like we do, but..as the white kid gets older, and his taste in ''music'' develops, his whole attitude and out look on life changes, and they get too caught up in the whole ''rappers image''


Ok? So, a person makes a person. I made myself. Yeah, when I was kid I didn't listen to rap, hell, up until early sixth grade I didn't even know what rap was. However, soon after I figured out that I did like it, my "outlook" on life didn't change at all. Music didn't make me figure shit out. Talking to people, experiencing shit in my life, etc. helped me put together an "outlook" on life. You're just randomly shooting in the dark on how YOU think most white people got into rap music and hip hop. You don't know me. You don't know the stories behind any white guy here, so who are you to make statements like that? I never got "caught" up in the rapper's image. I liked the clothes, so I wore the fucking clothes. I would faking myself if I acted like I loved rock like a lot of white people do here when I really don't. I like a grand total of three bands; I like rap WAY more. I was being myself, but, being ignorant like you are, me wearing hip hop type of clothes and shit was me trying to be something I'm not. You're a fucking idiot.

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Originally Posted by Buck.Marely
do you understand where I'm comin from, yo?


I understand two things: 1. You're an idiot. 2. You're ignorant. Of course, you're going to reply suggesting that I don't know what I'm talking about for one reason or another. Then, you'll keep generalizing the whole African American race. Next after that, I'll laugh and so will everybody else because everybody knows that you're retarded and I called you on it.

Do YOU understand where I'm coming from.. yo?

Magic5 12-20-05 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by MeTaFo'
.....Exactly my point

your obviously not gonna say ''Yeah whites are wiggers''

Just like I wouldnt trash talk my own race.

So if the truth went and slapped you in the face, you being human like the rest of us...would only go and deny the truth in order to have your races back.


No, I would say some bad things about my race if there was a reason. You don't see me saying that the Nazi's are fucking cool. I'm saying they're peices of shit and everywhere last one of them was white. I won't back parts of my "race" if they're in the wrong.

You, on the other hand, are just bringing down your race by generalizing everybody into a single category. That isn't helping anybody.

Now, the "truth" that you're speaking of.. where is it? All I see is you guessing where white people picked up rap and the rap "style." Your whole arguement is an pile of ignorant bullshit.

You're a fucking idiot.

Dirty Nigga 12-20-05 05:52 PM

......Ok, so i'm wrong

and white people do grow up wearing and talkin like us, And when they immitate a typical ''black man from the street''...Its not mocking us in any way, and us black people dont find it offensive, Mim...WE HONESTLY DONT! hahaha

^
Sarcasm.

Magic5 12-20-05 05:53 PM

And you remain ignorant.

^ Not sarcasm.

Dirty Nigga 12-20-05 05:55 PM

Its funny how people ask a question about ''why do black people...''.

...an then a white man comes up with the answer LOL.



(Yes I know it doesnt say ''why do black people call white people wiggers'' in the title....but a white man is not gonna ask a white man why other races call them wiggers are they?)

CAUSE THEYD HAVE NO CLUE WHY!!


This is why its so funny.

Dirty Nigga 12-20-05 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Mimesis
And you remain ignorant.

^ Not sarcasm.

I'm simply telling you why a black man would call a white man a wigger, and yet your getting bitchy because I'm answering a question, thats fucked up, son.

Magic5 12-20-05 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by MeTaFo'
I'm simply telling you why a black man would call a white man a wigger, and yet your getting bitchy because I'm answering a question, thats fucked up, son.


No, I'm pointing out the errors in your arguement.. that you seem to have forgotten to respond to. The parts where you stereotyped all black people and randomly guessed as to what happened to some white people to make them want to dress a certain way or listen to a certain music.

You're arguement is illogical and just plain wrong. Now, quit being a queer.

Magic5 12-20-05 06:03 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by MeTaFo'
Its funny how people ask a question about ''why do black people...''.

...an then a white man comes up with the answer LOL.



(Yes I know it doesnt say ''why do black people call white people wiggers'' in the title....but a white man is not gonna ask a white man why other races call them wiggers are they?)

CAUSE THEYD HAVE NO CLUE WHY!!


This is why its so funny.


Apexx didn't ask "Why do black people.." anything. He asked the board why white people get called wiggers. Some white kids at my school call me a wigger.. the question Apexx asked was why. He didn't say single out one race for making fun of white people.

And no, a white person hasn't come up with an answer. It's kind of hard to put together an answer when you're the one being called it. Everything that has been said by somebody who has been called a wigger in this thread is just speculation. Then, you come in thinking you're all cool and post up a pile of complete bullshit. It's ignorant, stereotypical, generalized, and most importantly, it's just wrong.

But, being the dumbass you are, you'll still respond to try and get the last word even though you don't know what you're talking about.

Good debate you're presenting though. Lmao.

Adam 12-20-05 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Buck.Marley
Fuckin idiots.

You white people are dumb as fuck and obviously can only see this shit from your point of view.


So..

If a white person wears a Fubu shirt, or a G-Unit shirt he's a wigger?

What does that make a black person if he wears a Polo shirt or a button up shirt?

Black people are racist, they just don't think they are.

Sean Gunner 12-20-05 06:07 PM

So why can a black man call a white guy a cracka or wigger and white people can't call them a nigger?

Dirty Nigga 12-20-05 06:08 PM

No. ^

I never once sterotyped a black man, when Viva tried ''putting me in my place''...I cleary stated that It doesnt go as deep as where you live and shit like that.

Go ask any white man that doesnt pick up a mic and flow...they'll tell you that there is a urban way of living in which white people don't fit in.

I admit, maybe I could of said One or two things diffrently, cause ya do have ''normal'' black people who dont talk, dress or act like the typical ''street'' negro, but thats not the issue is it?

but yo I'm not racist, I got nothin against white people rhymin....or listnin too hip hop/rap or r&b or whatever, again Thats not the Issue here....Fact of the matter is, Mim.......Black and whites are always gonna be seperated in some ways, and this particular issue about the whole ''wigger'' thing is one of them.

If you know black people, you'll find a couple of us which will call those ''normal everyday'' black people sellouts and shit like that...But when you see a white kid in baggy pants, Timbos, and talkin like he aint been to school...Us black folks call them wiggers simply because we'd associate the pants an everythin else with a black kid from the street.

Dirty Nigga 12-20-05 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by The Revelation
So why can a black man call a white guy a cracka or wigger and white people can't call them a nigger?

Hass anybody ever said we can call youcracker but you cant call us nigger?

I dont think they have, I just think your being an asshole right now.

Indeph 12-20-05 06:09 PM

I'm black.

And yes most black people are racist. Mostly we act like assholes for no reason.

But alot of black people don't. Mostly if you go to a black school the ones who aren't
talking are the ones who aren't like that. But if 'some' black people are racist and 'some' white people are racist, then why aren't we saying people are racist. If we so fuckin' caught up on narrowing people into small catogories then call em flat out racist. We could just be considered human beings, but nah. I sware next year people are gonna be all "I swear fuckin brown eyed people are racist".

Dirty Nigga 12-20-05 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Mimesis
Apexx didn't ask "Why do black people.." anything. He asked the board why white people get called wiggers. Some white kids at my school call me a wigger.. the question Apexx asked was why. He didn't say single out one race for making fun of white people.

And no, a white person hasn't come up with an answer. It's kind of hard to put together an answer when you're the one being called it. Everything that has been said by somebody who has been called a wigger in this thread is just speculation. Then, you come in thinking you're all cool and post up a pile of complete bullshit. It's ignorant, stereotypical, generalized, and most importantly, it's just wrong.

But, being the dumbass you are, you'll still respond to try and get the last word even though you don't know what you're talking about.

Good debate you're presenting though. Lmao.

Did you even read what I typed in bracets under the comment your referring to in the quote?

Dirty Nigga 12-20-05 06:12 PM

Man, Mimesis is fuckin stupid as hell trynna prove a point.

MIMESIS I'MA TYPE IN CAPS THAT WAY YOU MAY READ IT AND NOT SELECT A FEW CHOSEN WORDS TO TRY AND MAKE YOURSELF LOOK RIGHT INFRONT OF YOUR LITTLE FRIENDS.

HERE MIM..................................

ITS ALL ABOUT A BLACK MAN CALLING A WHITE MAN A WIGGER, BECAUSE THEY ARE ACTING LIKE THE BLACK RACE...HENCE THE TERM ''WIGGER'' AND NOT SOMTHIN RETARDED LIKE WASIAN FOR A WHITE ASIAN, CAUSE SIMPLY....THAT WOULD NOT HAPPEN, SO WHY DO WHITE PEOPLE HAVE TO IMMITATE US BLACK FOLK AND EXPECT TO GET AWAY WITH IT OIKE WE AINT GONNA RIP INTO Y'ALL

Dirty Nigga 12-20-05 06:14 PM

oh...and I'm sorry if any one black person felt like I was sterotyping each n every black indivudal with my last post, I didnt mean it to sound like that, But I was just talkin bout blacks in general.

Magic5 12-20-05 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by MeTaFo'
Did you even read what I typed in bracets under the comment your referring to in the quote?


They're actually called parenthesis, but yeah. I did. So what? Apexx is black and is asking why white people get called wiggers. That's not saying "So, fellow black people, why do we call white people wiggers?" He's asking what EVERYBODY ON THE BOARD thinks about why white people get called wiggers.

Since I know you're majorally retarded, I'll peice this together for you. He asked an open ended question, directed to everybody on this board (yes, genius.. white people included) about why white people get called wiggers.

Do white people not have opinions on why they get called wiggers.. and how ignorant it is for somebody to make that statement?

I swear.. some people.. You are just so fucking stupid, it is hard to contemplate how you got past fourth grade.

Adam 12-20-05 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by MeTaFo'
Man, Mimesis is fuckin stupid as hell trynna prove a point.

MIMESIS I'MA TYPE IN CAPS THAT WAY YOU MAY READ IT AND NOT SELECT A FEW CHOSEN WORDS TO TRY AND MAKE YOURSELF LOOK RIGHT INFRONT OF YOUR LITTLE FRIENDS.

HERE MIM..................................

ITS ALL ABOUT A BLACK MAN CALLING A WHITE MAN A WIGGER, BECAUSE THEY ARE ACTING LIKE THE BLACK RACE...HENCE THE TERM ''WIGGER'' AND NOT SOMTHIN RETARDED LIKE WASIAN FOR A WHITE ASIAN, CAUSE SIMPLY....THAT WOULD NOT HAPPEN, SO WHY DO WHITE PEOPLE HAVE TO IMMITATE US BLACK FOLK AND EXPECT TO GET AWAY WITH IT OIKE WE AINT GONNA RIP INTO Y'ALL


You're racist.

So when a black person dresses and acts like the white race...

What do we call them?

...usually by their name.

You just don't want to admitt it, but the black race is probably the most racist race out there.

Magic5 12-20-05 06:16 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by MeTaFo'
oh...and I'm sorry if any one black person felt like I was sterotyping each n every black indivudal with my last post, I didnt mean it to sound like that, But I was just talkin bout blacks in general.


Blacks in general = generalized. Once again.. I know black skaters, black rockers, etc. Thinking that one race acts, dresses, etc. the same way.. is ignorant. Thanks for pointing out your own ignorance though, so when I respond to the post you just made I won't have to.

Indeph 12-20-05 06:17 PM

OMFG does anybody ever read my posts anymore?

Dirty Nigga 12-20-05 06:19 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mimesis
Blacks in general = generalized. Once again.. I know black skaters, black rockers, etc. Thinking that one race acts, dresses, etc. the same way.. is ignorant. Thanks for pointing out your own ignorance though, so when I respond to the post you just made I won't have to.

.......LORD FUCKIN JESUS YOUR PERDANTIC AS HELL MAN.

But for real....I said blacks in general because...........In my estimation, over half of the african american youth today like to think they are street wise.


Lets just end it by saying, I KNOW FOR A FACT WHY BLACK PEOPLE CALL WHITE PEOPLE WIGGERS, I can't speak for the other whiteboys who call they own race wiggers, you'd have to ask them, but I'm speakin on behalf of the black people I know.

Dirty Nigga 12-20-05 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Indeph
OMFG does anybody ever read my posts anymore?

Yeah, I read it

and arent you from the Chi?

Indeph 12-20-05 06:24 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by MeTaFo'
Yeah, I read it

and arent you from the Chi?





Yeah. The thing is I know that everyone is racist for a reason. A white dude could get robbed by a black dude and turn on the radio and hear some krunk shit. Then he'll hate black people and say nigger when black people aren't around. A black dude could get harassed by cops and turn on the TV and see a bunch of racist white people frolliking and making cracks. So its like.. you're too closeminded of people if you're racist. People don't understand indivisuallity. Saying black ppl this and white ppl that. Stfu people contradict themselves. I've seen the light just in case mim wants to comment -_-

Magic5 12-20-05 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by MeTaFo'
No. ^

I never once sterotyped a black man, when Viva tried ''putting me in my place''...I cleary stated that It doesnt go as deep as where you live and shit like that.


No? You should go read your posts again. You said "Black people. . ." Believe it or not, but not all black people do the same thing. That is stereotyping a race. Good job.

Quote:
Originally Posted by MeTaFo'
Go ask any white man that doesnt pick up a mic and flow...they'll tell you that there is a urban way of living in which white people don't fit in.


Who are you to make a statement like that? Do you know every white man who hasn't picked up a mic? I'm willing to bet that you haven't, therefore you're just making up hypothetical situations because that's all your arguement has to cling onto.

Quote:
Originally Posted by MeTaFo'
I admit, maybe I could of said One or two things diffrently, cause ya do have ''normal'' black people who dont talk, dress or act like the typical ''street'' negro, but thats not the issue is it?


It turns into an issue when your whole post/arguement is filled with stereotypical statements and generalizations. Your posts are inaccurate; everything you say is just.. stupid as fuck.

Quote:
Originally Posted by MeTaFo'
but yo I'm not racist, I got nothin against white people rhymin....or listnin too hip hop/rap or r&b or whatever, again Thats not the Issue here....Fact of the matter is, Mim.......Black and whites are always gonna be seperated in some ways, and this particular issue about the whole ''wigger'' thing is one of them.


Thanks for sharing that you're not a racist. You're stupid, yes. But, I never said you were a racist. You can argue with the people who do believe you are, but I never said that I thought that. And, no, the "wigger" issue has nothing to do with whites being separated from blacks. It's about people being ignorant and generalizing races (just like you).

Quote:
Originally Posted by MeTaFo'
If you know black people, you'll find a couple of us which will call those ''normal everyday'' black people sellouts and shit like that...But when you see a white kid in baggy pants, Timbos, and talkin like he aint been to school...Us black folks call them wiggers simply because we'd associate the pants an everythin else with a black kid from the street.


Way to continue add in what YOU would personally do and say.. mixed in with some more generalization. You keep presenting these brilliant peice of shit. I'm surprised I even have a response. The knowledge that you continue to show is astounding...................ly horrible. Jesus Christ. You keep fucking up with the same shit over and over again.. EVEN AFTER I point it out to you.


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