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La Cosa Nostra 03-08-06 01:37 AM

Now hes gonna say "OOH LIEK.. Man the government planeted those pictures to pretend that egyptians arnt arabs... OMG OMG OMG OGM"

Indeph 03-08-06 01:38 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nostradamus
Here is an egyptian.


And here is a black person.




*alarm bells ring* Notice the difference indeph?



*sigh* That's mohammed khalid. Notice how neffertiti(fuck spelling) and cleopatra had dark skin? Seriously, our history has been DESTROYED, don't take credit for possible lies. You cant possibly rule out the entire fact that egypt was in africa... and yet black people just happen to have NOTHING to do with it at all. Fuckin wow.

Indeph 03-08-06 01:39 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nostradamus
Now hes gonna say "OOH LIEK.. Man the government planeted those pictures to pretend that egyptians arnt arabs... OMG OMG OMG OGM"


No matter how you humour it, it still doesn't change the truth. You can think its laughable all you want. I think its laughable that you refuse to entertain the idea. Hardy har.

La Cosa Nostra 03-08-06 01:43 AM

Indeph for fuck sake...

Your people were enslaved because you were in nomadic tribes.. White people back in the day thought that you were all jus savages because you never progressed into a proper civilisation..

I'm sorry that it happened like that... I'm sorry you have to try and pretend you are linked to the egyptian culture in some obscure way to hide the truth.. Your people lived in camps and were hunters and gatherers till very recently on a scale of world development.. Thats why we got this long ass list of racial achievement and yours is like........fighting for equality and rap music...

We dont sit here and script out the world... So dont blame us for how history turned out...

Indeph 03-08-06 01:45 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nostradamus
Indeph for fuck sake...

Your people were enslaved because you were in nomadic tribes.. White people back in the day thought that you were all jus savages because you never progressed into a proper civilisation..

I'm sorry that it happened like that... I'm sorry you have to try and pretend you are linked to the egyptian culture in some obscure way to hide the truth.. Your people lived in camps and were hunters and gatherers till very recently on a scale of world development.. Thats why we got this long ass list of racial achievement and yours is like........fighting for equality and rap music...

We dont sit here and script out the world... So dont blame us for how history turned out...



OMFGGGG its not pretending, that's a fuckin faccct. Jesus. And this isnt a racial competition, the funny thing is the purpouse of this thread was defining white power. And THIS is what it is. White power isnt uplifting whites in society. It's just a fuckin shout of "I'm better than you". And that's why white power is racist. DING DING DING

Past Tense 03-08-06 01:47 AM

ps i didnt write that!!!!!!

i just thoght it was funny

Indeph 03-08-06 01:48 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nostradamus
Indeph for fuck sake...

Your people were enslaved because you were in nomadic tribes.. White people back in the day thought that you were all jus savages because you never progressed into a proper civilisation..

I'm sorry that it happened like that... I'm sorry you have to try and pretend you are linked to the egyptian culture in some obscure way to hide the truth.. Your people lived in camps and were hunters and gatherers till very recently on a scale of world development.. Thats why we got this long ass list of racial achievement and yours is like........fighting for equality and rap music...

We dont sit here and script out the world... So dont blame us for how history turned out...


And btw...

africans are like that because of the enviornment they're in. They're around some of the most dangerous animals on the planet and they've learned to coexist without guns. That's strength and adaptation. You throw europeans in the jungle bear armed and they're screaming and dying. Damn, rv is so... racist. -_-

La Cosa Nostra 03-08-06 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by ...Indeph
OMFGGGG its not pretending, that's a fuckin faccct. Jesus. And this isnt a racial competition, the funny thing is the purpouse of this thread was defining white power. And THIS is what it is. White power isnt uplifting whites in society. It's just a fuckin shout of "I'm better than you". And that's why white power is racist. DING DING DING

Now then buddy..

I've seen my fair share of videos of black conferences where people sit there and talk shit about white people for hours and hours on end...

Inviting speaker after speaker that jus get up on stage yelling at the top of their lungs about how white people are so damn evil and how were compleatly fucking shit up for all black people...

I seen black people making fun of white people as a defence mechanism..

White power groups are an extremily small minority of ignorant and selfish people.. Where as black power groups is like......a vast majority of you...

We know white power groups are usually racist ourselves.. And were actually pretty damn vocal of that fact.. If you talk to most rational white people theyll tell you the same thing...

:thumbup:

Get a grip indeph.. All your doing is getting rialed up trying to find some kind of flaw in my argument so you can pounce on it..


.....You wont..........Believe me...

Indeph 03-08-06 01:52 AM

I have to go, and NO I'm not tryna close the discussion on my note or none of that shit. I respect your oppinion to feel superior over everyone. I'm keeping mine. Ok? Ok. It's just really late. OK

La Cosa Nostra 03-08-06 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by ...Indeph
And btw...

africans are like that because of the enviornment they're in. They're around some of the most dangerous animals on the planet and they've learned to coexist without guns. That's strength and adaptation. You throw europeans in the jungle bear armed and they're screaming and dying. Damn, rv is so... racist. -_-

Oh man... There are so many things I could say about this..
But even I would feel way too racist...


What I will say though........ What seperates humans from animals? *cough*

Indeph 03-08-06 01:54 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nostradamus
Now then buddy..

I've seen my fair share of videos of black conferences where people sit there and talk shit about white people for hours and hours on end...

Inviting speaker after speaker that jus get up on stage yelling at the top of their lungs about how white people are so damn evil and how were compleatly fucking shit up for all black people...

I seen black people making fun of white people as a defence mechanism..

White power groups are an extremily small minority of ignorant and selfish people.. Where as black power groups is like......a vast majority of you...

We know white power groups are usually racist ourselves.. And were actually pretty damn vocal of that fact.. If you talk to most rational white people theyll tell you the same thing...

:thumbup:

Get a grip indeph.. All your doing is getting rialed up trying to find some kind of flaw in my argument so you can pounce on it..


.....You wont..........Believe me...



fuck it ill stay.


and wtf? You're doing the same thing! You're questioning what I'm doing and attacking it to death. All I'm doing is stating my oppinion. WHITE PEOPLE ARENT SUPERIOR. God it's like talking to a brick wall. And god damn I could go on and on about the difference between fixing a wrong and creating one, but this is so pointless. Seriously if you twist someone's words that much no one is wrong. You just tire me out. And no one on RV will tell you you're wrong, because you're white. I swear I've never met a bigger group of narrow minded babies.

La Cosa Nostra 03-08-06 02:02 AM

Indeph you cant continually try and win arguments by pretending that I'm being ignorant and acting like the reason your having such a hard time getting your argument accross is my fault...

Dont you realise thats just adding to the problem? You are so adapt to looking at a problem, and labeling it as someone elses shortcommings..

I am not the ignorant one here.. You are..

In this thread I have talked about historical facts.. I have said quite clearly I hold a great deal of pride in my race..

And all you have done is sit there telling me the well known problems of the white power movements.. You have tried to cover up the fact that for thousands of years your race were just nomadic tribes that never created any form of powerful civilisation or advance leading to the reason WHY a lot of your people were enslaved...

And yet your still trying to blame the fact that white people have advanced man kind so much more than black people on us.... WHAT is the deal bro........

Terumoto 03-08-06 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by ...Indeph
Only in movies. The carvings and descriptions of egyptions were big noses and black skin. Not pretty caramel vanilla cream or whatever the fuck the movies wanna pick. If you forgotten, this is the same civilization that made jesus have blond hair and blue eyes. The same civilization that made tom cruise play the last summari(however u spell it), brad pitt play the mexican, and white people play asian characters. How can you even believe white people invented that shit? They lie about every fuckin thing.


Uhh... In the last samurai, tom cruise actually played an american soldier.
:-/

Terumoto 03-08-06 02:36 AM

http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/midd...east_pol_95.jpg

Egyptians arent black... They are middle eastern. They would have light skin.

Look at the position of egypt, and cairo. You dont just go middle eastern countries, middle eastern countries, black. Egyptian people are probably among the darkest skinned arabs though. But that doesnt mean they are black. probably further south in africa, the people would be black black... as in their skin is actually black. But skin color would change depending on how much closer they lived to the middle east. Thats just fact. Thats why different races even exist...

So just because black people live near egypt, doesnt mean egyptians are black people. Its like russia and thingo.. asians. You get russians, then you get russian looking asians, then you get asians, depending on how west they live.

You know?

Valor 03-08-06 05:03 AM

not all white power followers are racists though......some just love there race and think its pure and superior....you know?
if you were white u'd kinda understand....but word its weird

Talen Ted 03-08-06 05:13 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tha Q.
Well, I may be alone in this thinking. But, anyone who disagrees with homosexuality, for example, shouldn't be startled by separatist groups. I've heard hate ranging in the form of, "those people should be burned alive." So, to people who hate "gay people" I say, "RESPECT THE KKK." In fact, I don't have a problem with the KKK. They can THINK whatever they want. The problem is, they've historically been a terrorist group and should have been disbanded a long time ago. The KKK was originally formed to scare blacks. Now, they claim their goal is to "preserve" the "white race." Little do they know that ALL LIFE originated in Africa. And, while blacks were inventing languages and science, they were still clubbing each other over the head in caves.



go figure

Thats just a theory
there have been much older skeletal bodies found in Asia

Talen Ted 03-08-06 05:16 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Valor
not all white power followers are racists though......some just love there race and think its pure and superior....you know?
if you were white u'd kinda understand....but word its weird

Yes, all white power followers ARE racist.
Kid Rock has pride in his race, but you dont see him saying "white power"
Black people say "black power" because it shows unbroken spirit.
white people say "white power" to encourage an aryanism (???)

Talen Ted 03-08-06 05:18 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by ...Indeph
I was talking about the prior inventions nos was talking about. And have you been watching tv at all? You should of caught even a little of our shit in black history month. Everything that's really gonna be useful for the world right now is already invented. Thinking of inventions and scientific discoveries doesnt make up for all the bullshit that had to happen for that to come into play. White people just had the nerve to invent the gun and kill a bunch of people and take control. White supremacy is only achieved by supressing the competition. All the thoughts of black people being inferior in this thread is why we need the NAACP and the panthers before raegon took them out. I don't see how anyone in their right mind can sit there and tell another race "nobody's fuckin with us, my white great great grandparents invented shit, so im better than you". Then turn around and say "hey woopty doo my great great grandparents enslaved your people. I didnt do that so why should I feel guilty".

Actually, the gun is a very very great invention
without guns there would'nt have been things done to the body that was never done before
Bullet wounds led to a major leap in health science concerning the human anatomy.
A great deal about the human body had to be known to remove a bullet.

Valor 03-08-06 05:25 AM

smarty....:)....

Talen Ted 03-08-06 05:28 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Past Tense
THEN AGAIN!!

You pass me on the street and sneer in my direction.

You call me "Cracker", "Honkey", "Whitey" and you think it's OK.

But when I call you, nigger, Kike, Towelhead, Sand-nigger, Camel Jockey, Beaner, Gook, or Chink you call me a racist.

You say that whites commit a lot of violence against you, so why are the ghettos the most dangerous places to live?

You have the United Negro College Fund.
You have Martin Luther King Day.
You have Black History Month.
You have Cesar Chavez Day.
You have Yom Hashoah
You have Ma'uled Al-Nabi
You have the NAACP.
You have BET.

If we had WET(white entertainment television) we'd be racists.

If we had a White Pride Day you would call us racists.

If we had white history month, we'd be racists.

If we had an organization for only whites to "advance" our lives, we'd be racists.

If we had a college fund that only gave white students scholarships, you know we'd be racists.

In the Million Man March, you believed that you were marching for your race and rights. If we marched for our race and rights, you would call us racists.

You are proud to be black, brown, yellow and orange, and you're not afraid to announce it. But when we announce our white pride, you call us racists.


You rob us, carjack us, and shoot at us.
But, when a white police officer shoots a black gang member or beats up a black drug-dealer running from the law and posing a threat to society, you call him a racist.




I am white.
I am proud.




But, you call me a racist.

Why is it that only whites can be racists?

How is holidays really "helping" blacks?
Martin Luther King does nothing for me at all. It just observes a great American historical figure.
Just like Abe Lincoln.
So sayin "you have Martin Luther king day" & "black history month" is nothing really. Its just honoring african Americans.
When white people become slaves in America being severely oppressed and STILL managed to invent shit, read, write, rise to glory build back up their self confidence and respect after being enslaved for centuries - THEN you will be honored.

I have never seen ANY WHITE PERSON that says "IM WHITE AND IM PROUD!" be called racist. Like Apexx said in the very first post, white power and black power is worlds apart.

wow, you said some very VERY ignorant things.
We have the NAACP BECAUSE it strengthen us as a race. We have BET BECAUSE african americans have a culture that associates itself with hip hop. and further more jazz, blues soul etc etc.
Why isnt there a WET? because everything else IS WET!!! Fox is wet, NBC is WET, CBS is WET.
Look at the shows on them channels, hardly any of them are black oriented. We also have UPN. UPN has alot of black oriented shows. You're mad because we have 2 shows that are african american oriented and the rest of the shit on tv are white!?!?!? be fa real, clown!!

Talen Ted 03-08-06 05:34 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nostradamus
White power movements were origionally created in the 1800's back when carpet baggers were going through into white peoples homes robbing and killing them and then getting off easy because they were previous slaves..

So when they origionated, they were basically a nessecary movement...

Today that is no longer the case.. And you have a situation where a bunch of hicks and rednecks wanna keep it alive with messages of hate and neo-nazi philosophys...

I think you'll also find a big difference in the fact that most white people dont support white power movements whereas most black people do support black power movements. So dont put judgements on the white race based on what a small minority of our people do.

I think the reason why we dont feel the need to have a movement to rise up as a people is simply because we are not a minority... We dont have a chip on our shoulder and if you didnt already notice... A lot of the time... Our people run the shit....

So we dont need to hold little meetings where we babble on about what we 'need to do' as a people and where we rant and rave about being mistreated by society...

Nah mean bruz?

ONCE AGAIN!
Black power = equality
white power = dominance

why cant white people grasp that?
we was gatherin into to groups "rantin and ravin" as you say on how to be treated equal. To stop the injustice towards us.

white power enthuist gather in groups to "rant and rave" on how to kill any nigga that mistakenly go down a wrong road or the wrong town

La Cosa Nostra 03-08-06 05:36 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Talen Ted
When white people become slaves in America being severely oppressed and STILL managed to invent shit, read, write, rise to glory build back up their self confidence and respect after being enslaved for centuries - THEN you will be honored.

Refer to this post---

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nostradamus
Fuck white and proud.. Thats their slogan..

We should make ours "I'm white, and I'm better than you" lmao

I mean face it.. We got more great historical figures than most.. We develop most advanced science and technology.. A large portion of the worlds great philosophers were white... Most of the all time greatest authors, poets and playwrites were white... Most of the worlds all time greatest artists and painters were white.... Most of the worlds greatests musicions and composers were white... Worlds greatest film makers have usually been white... The worlds richest and most powerful men are usually white... The american presidency has always been held by a white man... A white man was responsible for electricity and the telephone... It was white people who developed the english language.. White people who discovered that all matter in nature is a closed off system which lead to another WHITE man discovering the forumula to E=MC squared... White men invented the car... White men invented the computer... Its white men that are usually at the forefront of medical discoveries..

Shit.. It was even a crippled deteriating white man bound to a wheel chair that developed one of the most widly accepted theorys on the beginning of the universe.. (Steven Hawkings big bang theory) And two more white men who proved the existance of left over radiation in the far reaches of space that proved it to a point of little doubt...

The only real cultures that rival the white race are arabs... They've had some pretty amazing people in their history too... But I'd say we still have a bit up on them even...


If ANY race should be getting days dedicated to them...

ITS US my friend....


We have contributed atleast 1329238402582409583402 times what black people have contributed to mankind..

And you think cause we wernt previously nomadic tribes with no powerful civilisation and allowed ourselves to be enslaved that we dont deserve a day?

I dont mind cats having their days.. And I agree with most of what you said in your post.. Just that singular part I quoted was extremily ignorant...

La Cosa Nostra 03-08-06 05:41 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Talen Ted
ONCE AGAIN!
Black power = equality
white power = dominance

why cant white people grasp that?
we was gatherin into to groups "rantin and ravin" as you say on how to be treated equal. To stop the injustice towards us.

white power enthuist gather in groups to "rant and rave" on how to kill any nigga that mistakenly go down a wrong road or the wrong town

And as I said.. The difference between white power and black power is your entire race supports black power.. Most white people think white supremists are childish and generally retarded.. Which they are...

Its not about grasping anything.. We dont support the tiny ass minority of stupid white people who wanna send all forigners packing...

THATS the difference.....

Talen Ted 03-08-06 05:41 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Martyr
Rev: I can't wait to go to the Open mic and try my hand at performing

Black people: The fuck you doing here whitey? Get the fuck out.

Ya, it doesn't need to be a law, because they take the law into their own hands. I would like you to stand up alone to 100+ white people saying you can't do something. My 'feelings' weren't hurt, mainly cuz I don't have feelings anymore, my point is that so many black people make it appear that they suffer and no one else does. This doesn't apply to Apexx necessarily.

Please tell me how much you suffer from segregation now or have in the past. You all say we suffered! Ya, how many of you have suffered? Sure your race has, every race has, but have you?

get the fuck out of here
I have seen a many of white people at def poetry jam
That does not fuckin happen, that was a wack example, mainly because it has NEVER happened to you
I have watched the Apollo and seen white people own at shit and win and the crowds at the apollo are 99.9% black
dont even pull that shit, it doesnt matter WHERE you go in America if you're white and tryin to perform black people will NOT say no shit like "The fuck you doing here whitey? Get the fuck out" Every race has NOT suffered, tell me in what way have the white race suffered in America!?

Talen Ted 03-08-06 05:46 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nostradamus
And as I said.. The difference between white power and black power is your entire race supports black power.. Most white people think white supremists are childish and generally retarded.. Which they are...

Its not about grasping anything.. We dont support the tiny ass minority of stupid white people who wanna send all forigners packing...

THATS the difference.....

So whats the problem with black people supporting equality?!?!
Thats a problem to you?
and yeah, that "tiny ass minority" isnt so tiny. I say out of 10 white people 2 have some type of aryan or anti sematic(???) support/belief,
so, 10,000 whites, 2,000 of them have some sort of animosity.
Now just imagine that number being larger and larger, because there is obviously more than 10,000 whites in the world.
Yall dont need to support them, they have enough people to support themselves!

Talen Ted 03-08-06 05:54 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nostradamus
Refer to this post---



We have contributed atleast 1329238402582409583402 times what black people have contributed to mankind..

And you think cause we wernt previously nomadic tribes with no powerful civilisation and allowed ourselves to be enslaved that we dont deserve a day?

I dont mind cats having their days.. And I agree with most of what you said in your post.. Just that singular part I quoted was extremily ignorant...

How can white people NOT have all of those acheivements when whites are the majority in the world.

and that post is very flawed anyway
the whites that mostly everyone SHOULD be refering to are the aryan white.
Saying all of what you're IS true IF you're counting italians, jews, greek and irish. None of which fit the "blonde hair blue eyes criteria(???)
Aryan whites shows animosity towards italians, jews, greeks and irish because they're not "pure" aryan.

La Cosa Nostra 03-08-06 06:04 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Talen Ted
How can white people NOT have all of those acheivements when whites are the majority in the world.

Correction...
Not only the world majority.. We ALSO did not stay as nomadic tribes that let ourselves become slaves soon as a more powerful country invaded us and took over...

Quote:
and that post is very flawed anyway
the whites that mostly everyone SHOULD be refering to are the aryan white.
Saying all of what you're IS true IF you're counting italians, jews, greek and irish. None of which fit the "blonde hair blue eyes criteria(???)
Aryan whites shows animosity towards italians, jews, greeks and irish because they're not "pure" aryan.

I dont have blonde hair blue eyes.. But I am white because of my skin pigment. While some white people I mentioned have a more olive colored skin pigment.. They are still essentually white bruz...

I mean.. If a white person went and got a nice tan over summer, are you gonna try and say hes no longer a white person?

There are different types of white people just like their are different types of asians, africans, arabs.........etc

Just so you know...
...There are more things I could say here.. But I'm honna hold back.. Because I dont wanna be a complete asshole..

La Cosa Nostra 03-08-06 06:09 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Talen Ted
So whats the problem with black people supporting equality?!?!
Thats a problem to you?
and yeah, that "tiny ass minority" isnt so tiny. I say out of 10 white people 2 have some type of aryan or anti sematic(???) support/belief,
so, 10,000 whites, 2,000 of them have some sort of animosity.
Now just imagine that number being larger and larger, because there is obviously more than 10,000 whites in the world.
Yall dont need to support them, they have enough people to support themselves!

Did I say I had a problem? Dude stop trying to put words in my mouth just cause you want to win an argument... If you read my posts.. I actually say I respect that aspect of black culture for its unity on a street level..

And btw.........2 out of 10? Your kidding right? Maybe 2 out of 500.. At most...

Its a small world.. But what your trynna say is crazy..

Talen Ted 03-08-06 06:22 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nostradamus
Correction...
Not only the world majority.. We ALSO did not stay as nomadic tribes that let ourselves become slaves soon as a more powerful country invaded us and took over...


I dont have blonde hair blue eyes.. But I am white because of my skin pigment. While some white people I mentioned have a more olive colored skin pigment.. They are still essentually white bruz...

I mean.. If a white person went and got a nice tan over summer, are you gonna try and say hes no longer a white person?

There are different types of white people just like their are different types of asians, africans, arabs.........etc

Just so you know...
...There are more things I could say here.. But I'm honna hold back.. Because I dont wanna be a complete asshole..

mexicans, puerto ricans, and cubans are are latin.
But you dont say all latins are very revolutional because what Che Guerva (???) and Castro did for the cubans. You dont say all asians are prone to war because Sun Tzu was chinese and also because the chinese built the great wall of china. Give credit where it's due.
The aryan nation doesnt even accept jews, so why should what the jews accomplished be considered a great step for all whites?
And being nomadic has nothing to do with why the Africans were enslaved. The Celtics and the Scadinavians were also very nomadic. the Vikings were veyr very nomadic matter of fact and they weren't enslaved. (Im aware that the vikings and the scadinavians are the same, btw) Africans werent enslaved because they were nomadic, they were enslaved because we were out smarted. Being out smarted however doesnt make you dumb.
This is going to sound silly, I know, but have you ever seen that 1 movie with John Travolta and the aliens and shit? Where the aliens conquered and enslaved earth in 12 minutes or some shit like that. I dont know the name, but use that movie for example.
Yes the aliens were more advanced than us earthlings, but us as earthlings were still advanced and intelligent enough to know they we wasnt supposed to be slaves and we still faught(???) back and overcame the aliens.
The same thing goes for the Africans, we were intelligent enough to know that we weren't supposed to be slaves.

Talen Ted 03-08-06 06:28 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nostradamus
Did I say I had a problem? Dude stop trying to put words in my mouth just cause you want to win an argument... If you read my posts.. I actually say I respect that aspect of black culture for its unity on a street level..

And btw.........2 out of 10? Your kidding right? Maybe 2 out of 500.. At most...

Its a small world.. But what your trynna say is crazy..

You said when blacks got together to discuss civil unjust that we were "rantin" and "raving"
That implies something
rather you meant it that way or not.
and 2 out of 500? now THAT is crazy if you think that only 2 out of 500! white people are racist.
thats some of the craziest shit I've EVER heard.
you sayin you take a thousand white people, 1,000 that only 4 of them are going to be racist?
c'mon man, be fa real
Thats just being un realistic TOTALLY

Talen Ted 03-08-06 06:33 AM

im bout to be out, Nos
we can prolly finish this conversation in a day or two
pz man

La Cosa Nostra 03-08-06 06:36 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Talen Ted
mexicans, puerto ricans, and cubans are are latin.
But you dont say all latins are very revolutional because what Che Guerva (???) and Castro did for the cubans. You dont say all asians are prone to war because Sun Tzu was chinese and also because the chinese built the great wall of china. Give credit where it's due.
The aryan nation doesnt even accept jews, so why should what the jews accomplished be considered a great step for all whites?
And being nomadic has nothing to do with why the Africans were enslaved. The Celtics and the Scadinavians were also very nomadic. the Vikings were veyr very nomadic matter of fact and they weren't enslaved. (Im aware that the vikings and the scadinavians are the same, btw) Africans werent enslaved because they were nomadic, they were enslaved because we were out smarted. Being out smarted however doesnt make you dumb.
This is going to sound silly, I know, but have you ever seen that 1 movie with John Travolta and the aliens and shit? Where the aliens conquered and enslaved earth in 12 minutes or some shit like that. I dont know the name, but use that movie for example.
Yes the aliens were more advanced than us earthlings, but us as earthlings were still advanced and intelligent enough to know they we wasnt supposed to be slaves and we still faught(???) back and overcame the aliens.
The same thing goes for the Africans, we were intelligent enough to know that we weren't supposed to be slaves.

Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah....

1) Vikings were nomadic.. But they were an advanced warring nomadic civilisation. Not hunter and gatherer tribes...

There is a difference..

See man.. Black people were enslaved because they were still in what most would call the stone age... Where the rest of the world had advanced into large complex structured civilisations with constantly advancing technology.. Your people were still roaming tribes that were basically an easy target for anyone looking to make slaves... I'm not saying this to try and prove you wrong or make you look stupid... I'm saying these things because thats simply.......what happened...

Because your people didnt progress past a certain point technologically.. You didnt put up might of a fight to civilisations that had been in the big game for several thousand years...

It wasnt that you were tricked or anything like that.. And ofcourse your people wernt stupid.. You were a spiritual people.. But to an incomming civilised army of people who were lightyears ahead of you technologically.. You looked like savages and animals that could be trained to become servants..

Now I know its not right... But back in those times.. Thats how shit worked... It shows that the world has come a long way since back then..

La Cosa Nostra 03-08-06 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Talen Ted
You said when blacks got together to discuss civil unjust that we were "rantin" and "raving"
That implies something
rather you meant it that way or not.
and 2 out of 500? now THAT is crazy if you think that only 2 out of 500! white people are racist.
thats some of the craziest shit I've EVER heard.
you sayin you take a thousand white people, 1,000 that only 4 of them are going to be racist?
c'mon man, be fa real
Thats just being un realistic TOTALLY

4 in a 1000?
Yes .. I am saying that..

However, there is a difference between half hearted racists that are annoyed by another race but dont go all out........And full blown racists that make their opinions publically known...

See theres a bit of the first racist in everyone... You'll find that most people will make jokes about other races when their not around.. Just like people will make jokes about cripples and people from other religions when their not around... That type of shit is like.........big fuggen deal..

The real racists are definatly around 4 in a 1000... Dont be fooled by the fact that you will see them more in certain communitys than others and they hang around eachother a lot...

∆ P E X X 03-08-06 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Nostradamus
You dont agree with any of the points I made? Well lets go through them one by one...

The first point was about the carpet baggers. Which is historically correct.. The carpet baggers were gangs of previous black slaves that would break into white peoples homes rob them and kill them and they often got away with murder scott free.. The origional white power movement was there to recognise the fact that the law was doing absolutly nothing to stop black people from retaliating and killing off large amounts of our race and it was set in place not as a symbol of hate. But a symbol of protection of the white race that most rational people would say was not only inevidible.. But nessecary..

So that was point 1. And I dont see how you could dissagree with that being that it is nothing more than historical fact..


That's not a point. That's a result of white people hunting FREED slaves that had set up communities and were killed, raped and ripped out of their homes and kicked off their land that they legally paid for and cultivated and irrigated from the ground up. THAT'S when the line was drawn. All they had to do was simply stop or better still, never start!! Besides, the only white people that were being killed were slave masters, not ordinary poor white folk like the average joe. Once again, only one side of the story, causing a complete disconnect with reality.

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Point two was about how now a days its mainly shit for brains rednecks and hicks that are keeping it alive with hate and loathing of races that come into white populated countries... Dunno how you could dissagree with that.. The only difference is sometimes skinheads will turn that way in jail simply because they need someone to run with for protection...

Wrong again. There's TONS of white collar racists in my neighborhood, are you kidding me?? Man, are you foreal right now?? wow. I should take a picture some day of how my next door neighbor has been terrified of me since the day she found out her neighbors were blacks. BTW, I know she's a racist by the confederate flag her husband used to sport on his liscence plate till he found out his neighbors were blacks. Him and his wife are both realestate agents. And they're just one of COUNTLESS cases I could name locally alone. Racists need jobs too son. Once again, one side of the story causing complete disconnect with reality.
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Point 3........well.. Are you really gonna dissagree with the fact that most white people dont support white power movements? I mean cmon man.. I dont think I even needa go into more detail on that one...


No dispute there. However, you left out where you said "AND most blacks DO support the black power movement" WRONG! I don't know ANY blacks that support "The black power movement" or that are even civil rights activists to any extra degree than enybody else not black. I can probably name..mmm.....5 that I've ever met that were concious like that. Did you really believe what you said was true lmao, I gotta laugh man. Add to that, the "Black Power Movement" is a black EMpowerment movement, not a black OVERpowerment movement like the whites have made theirs. Yet another assumption left to run completely out of control and far stray of fact. Are you seeing why I can't see any enlightenment from your point of view yet? It comes from an extremely limited view point.

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Point 4.... Well I can see how you might dissagree with this due to the fact it might annoy you.. But its more or less usually the case.. We are the majority therefore what have we got to fight for? Most of our struggles arnt with society.. Most of our struggles are with our lack of unity on a street level which is a personal thing... But this doesent mean we all of a sudden needa go out and start big ass movements and have conventions where we rant and rave about what we wanna change... Why should we? We are the majority..I dont mean to piss you off.. But most powerful men in our countries are white... Black people own shit like fashion and pop culture a lot of the time.. But we are essentually the driving force behind our countries... Thats not an opinion, thats fact... Sorry if I'm sounding racist.. Cause I'm far from it.. But I do have a sense of pride for my people... There are a lot of things technologically, philosophically and scientifically especially that white people have brought to the world for the betterment of man kind. We have a right to be proud..


This was actually what I laughed at the hardest, not because you THINK it annoys me (why would it??), but because who's doing the attacking on other people of color all the time? Who's got a war with a thirdworld nation right now? Who's dropping bombs in populated cities that are not even attacking or interested in you? Who has a war on a religion disguised as a war on "terror". For that matter, who needs a "war" for EVERYTHING! Who had their own children as rats in a maze during the vietnam war - WHITE PEOPLE!! They want to dance liek how this race dances, wish they had a complexion like that race over there, could tan like that one, had flair like this race and so on and so on "I wish" becomes "I want" becomes "I need" and when reality hits that that's impossible to live outside of your self "I'm so depressed" "I'm going to kill my self, nobody appreciates me or thinks I'm cute/hot/popular/smart/valuable/whatever". Then you wonder why these kids go bezerk. If you're so in control, why are you so insecure with the rest of the world?? Historically, white man can't feel proud unless he attacks the next man (who had to fight for their basic rights), his wife (who had to fight for their basic rights), or his own kids (who have been drafted to war and had to fight for their lives). Ask Hitler, Bush, Stahlin, Gobechev, Bush again, Clinton, Raegan, Nixon, Roosevelt, Washington, Columbus, Vespucci, Erikson, and unga bunga the first caveman who really felt like somebody when he first learned how to bust shit with a club while others had already developed self sufficient civilizations. It's always been that way son. Luckily, some break the cycle.

But if you really want to entertain your self, write down how many anti-black violent parties there are that are exclusively white. Now think of how many anti-white parties there are that are all black. NONE!! I'm waiting for you to say "The black panthers!!" so I can laugh when I tell you what the black panthers stood and still stand for, instead of what you see and hear on TV. When you're done with that, think of all the white terrorist groups that exist, NOT including the klan, nazis, neo-nazis, etc. Then think of how many mass murderers. How many people that created technology, weapons, a whole INDUSTRY, soley to kill other people. How many cannibals you've ever heard of in modern scociety. Completely psychotic individuals that seem to kill for nothing other than their own sick entertainment.

Now write down how many people of color you can name in the same category.

Now write down how many equal rights, pro-peace, and civil liberty groups you can think of that are primarily (never exclusively) of color.

Now how many exclusively white organizations you can name in the same category. Do the math man.

BUT...Convenient that you didn't mention the plagues, diseases, rapes, STD, murders, massive land theft, slavery and genocide that white people brought as well. There's both sides to every coin, and so far you've either never seen, or never cared to looked at the other side of a single one, and I know you've got a whole change purse full.

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Which brings me to my next point... For black people it is compleatly beneficial to hold meetings where you guys talk about the betterment of your people. Thats your thing and it is a big reason why you guys are so powerful these days in pop culture and shit.. Cause you have a real sense of unity and pulling together during hard times... I really do respect that.. I jus dont think we as white people really need it..


You're joking right? "pulling together" is the #1 obstacle facing black people and communities around the nation. Any black person can tell you that man because their parents told them and now they're old enough to see it them selves. This can't be real, you can not possibly really think that.
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And I dont really see how my points are that invalid or out of touch with reality... Sure society is full of dumb cunts and my views arnt wide spread.. But thats because a lot of people fail to look at the world from an outside perspective... They dont look at all the evidence.. They just see whats in their own lives and base their opinions on live for the moment decisions...

*shrugs*


Heh. Now THAT'S irony.

Tha Q. 03-08-06 11:44 AM

Apexx is beastin in here, holdin' it down for the brothas!

I suggest all the narrow minded people who just don't "get it" watch the documentary, "Eyes on the prize." Basically, you all are attempting to re-write history. tsk tsk tsk Don't downplay what happened and continues to happen to blacks in America. The playing field is still lopsided.
Period. It won't stop me though. It just means I have to work 3 x as hard to prove I'm JUST AS good.

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Bangalore 03-08-06 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Apexx
That's not a point. That's a result of white people hunting FREED slaves that had set up communities and were killed, raped and ripped out of their homes and kicked off their land that they legally paid for and cultivated and irrigated from the ground up. THAT'S when the line was drawn. All they had to do was simply stop or better still, never start!! Besides, the only white people that were being killed were slave masters, not ordinary poor white folk like the average joe. Once again, only one side of the story, causing a complete disconnect with reality.


Wrong again. There's TONS of white collar racists in my neighborhood, are you kidding me?? Man, are you foreal right now?? wow. I should take a picture some day of how my next door neighbor has been terrified of me since the day she found out her neighbors were blacks. BTW, I know she's a racist by the confederate flag her husband used to sport on his liscence plate till he found out his neighbors were blacks. Him and his wife are both realestate agents. And they're just one of COUNTLESS cases I could name locally alone. Racists need jobs too son. Once again, one side of the story causing complete disconnect with reality.


No dispute there. However, you left out where you said "AND most blacks DO support the black power movement" WRONG! I don't know ANY blacks that support "The black power movement" or that are even civil rights activists to any extra degree than enybody else not black. I can probably name..mmm.....5 that I've ever met that were concious like that. Did you really believe what you said was true lmao, I gotta laugh man. Add to that, the "Black Power Movement" is a black EMpowerment movement, not a black OVERpowerment movement like the whites have made theirs. Yet another assumption left to run completely out of control and far stray of fact. Are you seeing why I can't see any enlightenment from your point of view yet? It comes from an extremely limited view point.



This was actually what I laughed at the hardest, not because you THINK it annoys me (why would it??), but because who's doing the attacking on other people of color all the time? Who's got a war with a thirdworld nation right now? Who's dropping bombs in populated cities that are not even attacking or interested in you? Who has a war on a religion disguised as a war on "terror". For that matter, who needs a "war" for EVERYTHING! Who had their own children as rats in a maze during the vietnam war - WHITE PEOPLE!! They want to dance liek how this race dances, wish they had a complexion like that race over there, could tan like that one, had flair like this race and so on and so on "I wish" becomes "I want" becomes "I need" and when reality hits that that's impossible to live outside of your self "I'm so depressed" "I'm going to kill my self, nobody appreciates me or thinks I'm cute/hot/popular/smart/valuable/whatever". Then you wonder why these kids go bezerk. If you're so in control, why are you so insecure with the rest of the world?? Historically, white man can't feel proud unless he attacks the next man (who had to fight for their basic rights), his wife (who had to fight for their basic rights), or his own kids (who have been drafted to war and had to fight for their lives). Ask Hitler, Bush, Stahlin, Gobechev, Bush again, Clinton, Raegan, Nixon, Roosevelt, Washington, Columbus, Vespucci, Erikson, and unga bunga the first caveman who really felt like somebody when he first learned how to bust shit with a club while others had already developed self sufficient civilizations. It's always been that way son. Luckily, some break the cycle.

But if you really want to entertain your self, write down how many anti-black violent parties there are that are exclusively white. Now think of how many anti-white parties there are that are all black. NONE!! I'm waiting for you to say "The black panthers!!" so I can laugh when I tell you what the black panthers stood and still stand for, instead of what you see and hear on TV. When you're done with that, think of all the white terrorist groups that exist, NOT including the klan, nazis, neo-nazis, etc. Then think of how many mass murderers. How many people that created technology, weapons, a whole INDUSTRY, soley to kill other people. How many cannibals you've ever heard of in modern scociety. Completely psychotic individuals that seem to kill for nothing other than their own sick entertainment.

Now write down how many people of color you can name in the same category.

Now write down how many equal rights, pro-peace, and civil liberty groups you can think of that are primarily (never exclusively) of color.

Now how many exclusively white organizations you can name in the same category. Do the math man.

BUT...Convenient that you didn't mention the plagues, diseases, rapes, STD, murders, massive land theft, slavery and genocide that white people brought as well. There's both sides to every coin, and so far you've either never seen, or never cared to looked at the other side of a single one, and I know you've got a whole change purse full.



You're joking right? "pulling together" is the #1 obstacle facing black people and communities around the nation. Any black person can tell you that man because their parents told them and now they're old enough to see it them selves. This can't be real, you can not possibly really think that.


Heh. Now THAT'S irony.


i do believe you have set a new record for a response...congrats

~Lady Fiya~ 03-08-06 12:31 PM

http://community.rapverse.com/showp...07&postcount=90

what exactly did you mean by that line you made, Nos?

Dirty Nigga 03-08-06 12:36 PM

:shocked:

Nos.......

from where I'm sittin homie, you went and called us animals? wtf....

Tha Q. 03-08-06 12:38 PM

People are simply ignorant and uneducated about this subject.








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∆ P E X X 03-08-06 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Tha Q.
People are simply ignorant and uneducated about this subject.








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yup. That's the difference between theory and experience.


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