We didn't elect him, he robbed Gore for it!! The last state he needed to break the tie was Florida. Florida came in wit a late vote. who's the governor of florida? Bush's Brother Jeb Bush.

set up voting stations only in neighborhoods that historically voted republican.

need I say more?

he's outta control kid.


he did it agian against Kerry, first president EVER to lose the popular vote (he had 46%) and still get elected.

well actually we don't really vote for him, congressman do. because they say the average person isnt smart enough to pick the right president...so the congressman choose the electorial votes....so before you try to come in here and make us look bad maybe you should GET an 8th grade education and actually pay attention to what HE is doing and stop trying to pawn it off on the american people and basically saying we are the same way he is. word.

Lmao, you stupid little shit. People were babbling about how America got its superpower status in WWII because they came in late in another thread, and I was clearing that up rather than bringing that thread back from the dead. Propaganda-filled whores? You're such a stupid twat. Notice how I just corrected someone who said that Iran even was developing a nuke, which goes against the reason America would bomb Iran for. Just shut the fuck up before you call anyone uneducated, as if a run-on sentence matters in a post that I haven't spent time crafting so that the grammar is perfect. So, lend-lease plan is bullshit? Yeah dude, I bet it was all a lie fabricated by the government, especially since America didn't want to get into the war in the first place.

You want to talk about sentence structure?



Judicial cleared that last thing up. Like I said, I'll base what all Canadians are like off of one deranged psychopath farmer who feeds prostitutes to his pigs. Don't even act like I voted for Bush anyway.

How about you look back on your posts to see if they make any sense at all next time?

LMFAO. Even if Iran has nuclear power they still won't be as "powerful" as the United States. Not even close. .

Lmao. This is about the first time I've agreed with Tha Q.

JTR, just shut up dude. You don't know what you're talking about. . it's evident in every fucking post that you make.

Basically, America's supposed to allow other countries to do whatever they want to us because they're small and we're stronger. It's like when a little kid comes up to you and starts kicking you in the leg. I guess we're supposed to say "oh that little rascal and his potentially deadly weapons, quick playing". Or somethin' like that =/

yeah I know, but coming from me it's "oh apexx black this black that". coming from you it's different.

this thread is ridiculous
most the people in the US dont agree with bush
so you people cant say " the people in us r dumb"
we just got a shifty leader
you cant label ALL of us, i voted for Kerry

now in the case of Iran, your an idiot if you'd trust that fucking president with nuclear shit, LOOK he aint even got the bombs yet and peep the shit he talk
Imagine if he ever got a real nuclear arsenal
you think CANADA gonna be safe? no
Bush will save a nice juicy bomb for your stupid asses after we wipe Iran off the map
Cuz thats the American way, like it or not

Thank you. Nobody Likes Bush but Bush. I wouldnt even vote for Kerry cuz kerry didnt seem like he knows what he is doing. Tell you the truth think Kerry and Bush were just bad canidates. But do you know who is a good canidate. Clinton's main bitch that's who. I voting for her.

Hillary Clinton? Oh, fuck no, man...

By the way, Kerry shouldn't have been elected...it should've been Dean, but there was the Dean Scream that made him not get in.

Our own allies turn their back on us? Who, France? France, the country who got raped in their ass by their own people? France, who we kept from being Germany's bitch for all eternity? Yeah, that's about the only one.


Ireland has soooo much personal freedom right? So much that you all are fucking fighting with N. Ireland just because it's Protestant? Yeah, fuck off.


Ummm... Say what? No Oil? What? I'm pretty sure you're the uneducated one there... I'm a proud Geography major of a non-state funded private university. I'm pretty sure my education isn't swayed by the government. We may not have as many Bulk resources as Canada, but, Canada's our bitch so it doesn't matter. Thank you.

And Crazy Hades is right. Even in the offchance that Iran HAD a nuclear weapon, it wouldn't do shit to the US, it'd hit Israel, and in turn Israel would rape every Islamic Middle Eastern country in the ass. Honestly, if Israel had the population pool of most European nations, it'd be the most powerful nation in the world. It's military equipment alone is twice as good as the US. Fuck with them. Please. Only reason the Palestinians haven't been whiped off the face of the earth is cuz the UN won't let 'em.

Bro, it wouldn't even hit Israel. It'd have one major city to hit without nailing any religious landmarks...then, there is a chance that 1.) it doesn't hit or 2.) Israel's Arrow interception system locates it and annihilates it. There are also other factors, lowering the chance of them doing more than getting an insignificant amount of fallout to touch part of a small city.

Israel seriously isn't a country anyone wants to fuck with.

Yeah I wish Isreal was apart of the United States.....*plays some Command and Conquere*

^ Dope ass game, man.

Wait, France kept us from being Britain's bitch? What the fuck are you talking about? And the only reason Britain was able to fucking stay in the war was because the supplies that America sent over.

Lmao @ Efecx. Man, just shut up. Seriously.

France has done hardly anything to help us. They actually did something in what, ONE FUCKING WAR? Great job. They've been complete bitches in 3 fucking wars that we saved their ass in. We also saved Britain's ass in a few wars and so how are we their bitch? I know you're talking about the Revolutionary War with France helping us, but come on. We've saved Britain's ass, we've saved France's ass. Germany can't touch us either. The United States is nobodies bitch in regards to militaristic strength, queerboy.

you have all been indoctrinated from the start. Israel would be first to get hit, because iran is threatening them already. Yes I am stereotyping americans, because for the most part they are retards. A quarter of your country can't read. The only countries that are worse are fucking developping countries in africa. That was funny when that guy who's most likely in first year fucking geography comes in here...Geography dude? That is the most ridiculous major, might as well go work at mcdonalds right now.

I'm talking poli sci, and you're bringing in geography? Its like i'm talking about Indie music and your talking about the O.C. Laughable.

I'm a business/econ double major (by the way)

You can all talk about hating your leader, but face it your country was dumb enough to re-elect him even if he didn't win the popular vote. He still got 46% of the votes, and that says something in itself.

I don't even know why i'm talking to you, because you can't say anything at all. Your ECONOMY is fucked.

Soon you'll have to start paying off your debt, and that's pretty much were it ends. You are lucky you're in a war currently because it helped your country, although you weren't smart enough to use all your own countries businesses to supply your war. Its ridiculous to think about. Like giving money away to enemies.

Actually the only time Canadians fought Americans in a war we won. What now, maybe we shall burn the white house again soon. I wouldn't mind

Let's examine your claims that the US economy is "fucked" and that only developing countries are "worse" than we are when it comes to literacy.


According to 2002 statistics:

USA has a literacy rate of well over 90%, closer to 99% in 1995

Our Gross Domestic Product is 10.4 trillion dollars


Unemployment rate: 5.8%


Now, let's compare another DEVELOPED country, say JAPAN:


Literacy rate: over 90%


GDP: 4 trillion



Unemployment: 5.4%




Let's look at Canada


Literacy rate, 97%

GDP: 714 billion

Unemployment rate: 7.2 %

Bro, I know America is in debt...I'm not even taking sides here, I'm pointing out what I know. Some people have talked about America and its wars, and I was talking about that. And yes, I remember now that France helped us out in the Revolutionary War, but so what? We were an infantile nation at that point...then, when WWII rolled along, Britain and America were about equal, and then we helped them out.

Saying 'but you weren't smart enough to do blah and blah' does not apply to me...I don't own a company...I don't have any say in who our leader is. I'm defending when idiots like JTR come in and start stereotyping that every American is stupid or elected Bush or blahblahblah. Some of the smartest and coolest people I know live in America, and I know plenty of people from Finland to Argentina...

But, really, would Iran be able to even do anything to Israel?

Based on what facts and figures?











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There you go again. We did not elect bush. Look at the numbers, dude for a 46% in the popular vote vs. a dude no one had confidence in and got as far as he did on the strength of "anybody but Bush" voters. You could have put up a chimp that's trained to write novels and he would have STILL gotten a higher rating than Bush, so for him to even have 46% is AMAZING!!! The country had more confidence in someone who was wishy washy than they did over the guy still on the job.


stop assuming that we elected bush. my state voted democratic as well as half the country, so at best your assumption is half correct.

Well, Q, there is a bit of a difference between 2002 and 2006. Not enough for me to actually believe a quarter of the country cannot read, but still.

So, again, I ask...Based on what facts and figures?








BTW, Bush won 51% of the popular vote in the last election.

umm no, you're thinking the nationwide vote. the popular vote is a poll of peoples opinions before the election takes place, in which case bush was at 46%. He's now 10% lower than that with an approval rating THE LOWEST PRESIDENTIAL APPROVAL RATE IN HISTORY at 36% in the popular polls.

67% of the country dosent' agree with this man, what's that tell you? And 72% DISAGREE with the war in iraq.

Mhm...doing some research...not seeing much pointing to America being fucked up (economic-wise).

I think Q may be right on this one. But I'm not the eco major and whatnot.

Bush's approval rating is in the 30s...

I'm talking about this:

Hades, our economy is against the ropes man, Bush DOUBLED our trillian-dollar deficit (at what 76trillion now?) since he came into office.

That means we're in twice as much debt as a nation than we were before he came into office.

wars aren't cheap son. specially when you have to bury thousands of dead bodies and pay those families.

Gimme a break here, Q is looking for facts and I'm delving around for them. :D

I'll just step out until we get into familar territory. <<

^^the nationwide vote (aka electoral vote), just like I said.

popular polls don't show states. They show opinions of approval.

I'm sure I odn't need graphs and what not to illustrate

Semantics...the word "popular" and "nationwide" as you're saying is interchangeable...When you watch news coverage of the election, they refer to those % as the "popular" vote.







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nah man, that's an electoral vote. That's nothing liek a popular vote. popular votes are taken all the time, that's how you find out an approval rating. That's a huge difference from an Electoral vote.

That 51 in that chart refers to the percentage he got from people who voted. Check the figures man...If you take Bush's percentage of the electoral votes he won, it equates to about 53%. On the other hand, if you take a percentage of the amount of people who voted for him of all the voters, it equals 51%.





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In the electoral votes, that's not popular polls. It states right on the chart that it's the electoral vote. Bush lost the popular polls, which once again isnt the electoral vote.

Electoral = The vote your state says it generally cast
Popular = the OPINONS of the people voting. For example, a popular vote could have say.. "6% Undecided", where as the electoral vote could not possibly have a vote for "Undecided" since that's not a candidate.

No president EVER won the electoral vote and lost the popular vote except Bush.


Twice.


They're not the same thing.

The United States is never going to go into Iran without help. And, with that being said, being that nobody supports us in Iraq right now, what will end up happening is this; we'll declare ourselves the winner of the war then just fucking leave. Lmao. We all know it's true. Bush fucking owned himself when he said their were WMDs in Iraq. If you're going to make a claim like that, and lead a whole country into war you better be fucking right. I still support Bush, but he's making some big mistakes.

But, to whoever brought up the percentage of the population of America who can read. . it is getting higher everyday; their called illegal aliens, dude.

Bro, the Popular vote is the actual number of VOTES, not opinions, cast by the people during the election. It is possible for someone to win the popular vote, but still lose the electoral college because key states with MORE electoral votes went to the other candidate.

The 51% represents the popular vote bro. You're mistaken on this one. If you don't believe me, we can take this to a college professor or Poli-Sci major to settle it. But, I do believe I'm correct on this one.

Nah man, I'm tellin you, the popular vote and the electoral vote are completely seperate. Bush won 51% of the electoral vote (what your chart illustrates) but lost the popular vote (what yor chart does NOT illustrate).

We don't have to take it to what ever profesors or what ever though, just read this:


see how they're seperate? Bush lost the popular vote with 46% but won the Electoral college vote with 51%.

Popular Vote = people voting at centers
Electoral = states vote for the people.

completely seperate

only the electoral votes get counted so Bush won, yet that's not who the people chose, so hows that add up?

Holy fuck...

I'm not even going to bother.

But this thread literally pissed me off.

If it literally pissed you off, then you peed your pants while reading. Lmao. You must be getting really fucking excited, dude.