wow at all the assumptions in that post. Rubbing that ego up again.

LOL Again, dawg, answer what I said in that post. You keep beating around the bush when your points become invalid.

and wtf? Keyboard or not. I'd still think the same thing. If I saw Ecko in real life, if one of my boys showed me his CD or I was bored and caught a show of his. I'd think the same thing. You're a fucking idiot for thinking you can change someone's opinion. You're the only one making yourself look like a joke.

So you need to get your facts straight before you decide to butt into an argument that you have no idea about why things are being said. the end"


^again, the whole thing is. You don't know why people are hating on Ecko. You said it in your original post, you didn't know that. SOOOOO.... wtf does that have to do with the "business" if their are personal reasons people are talking to him?

and you said we hate on "EVERYBODY" who's doing shit on RV, well I proved you wrong on that. So stop reinforcing points that have been defended against.

Since we learned about debates in my class, one of the FUNDAMENTALS to arguing a point, is to address the oppositions point and counter it. Not beat around the bush like you're doing and bring up new ones, or restate the same points that were already argued against. Learn something.

^ and i'm taking a class on hip-hop. lol, this isn't a debate... this is yall making yourselves look like haters.

and LMFAO @ "i want proof" :laugh:

word... yeah thats what i was thinking, b/c you have a generally "liberal" state of mind, except when it comes to racial issues, then you think EXTREMELY conservatively. that might have something to do with the difference in race relations in the US and in Australia though.

it was a completely reasonable demand...if you're making moves you mean to tell me that there is no evidence of your moves online?

if you're making moves be proud enough of your work to show me a link or few to stuff about you on the net after all the internet is a form of media as well as magazones and news etc.

if you're just gonna make yourself look like a clown by laughing again then it's whatever lol

^dude, it's just like him. You ask him something fairly simple, and when he's lost for words he just sidesteps the question.


who the fuck cares? A debate basically is arguing but in a professional manner. If you're going to make a strong argument, debate or not, there are still basic things you should add to make a strong argument.

And don't say, "Oh I don't care" because you've posted atleast 10 rebuttals. So if you're gonna do it, atleast do it the right way. Because the way you did it just belittles any facts you're trying to make.

This is basically what happened:

Ecko and others got into back and forth based off PRIOR incidents. Ecko in previous circumstances has done the same thing, hating on people. Or when people gave honest feedback to his old tracks he started bitching bout how he was better. So then a newer thread comes up, arguement pursues.

Then here comes the grill wearing, "lil daddy" saying, generic southern "hip-hopper" thinking he knows EXACTLY what is going on, when he has no clue whatsoever, and puts his 2 cents in.

You weren't involved in it, had no knowledge about it (admitted it yourself) so stay the fuck out of it. SIMPLE concept to grasp. Stop trying to be a fuck boy, lil daddy.

and again I'll bring it up again. You said we hate on everyone making moves on RV. How does 3 out of like the 10+ make it everybody? Answer me.

You're wrong and you know it. The mere fact that you agreed that you had no prior knowledge to this situation basically proves you had no reason to stick your head into other people's business and the clowning you received is fitting. Your only rebuttal is "THE BUSINESS WOULD LAUGH AT Y'ALL!" rofl fuck outta here, lil daddy

^ you keep saying i am making random claims and shit, and your biggest argument that you want me to address is the fact that i exaggerated and said that you hate on EVERYBODY that makes it on RV... okay, so you don't hate on everybody. still doesnt change how much yall look like bums for sittin online talkin shit about somebody actually rockin a show.

and you dont have to LITERALLY hate on every single person in order for it to be a pattern that people on RV this attitude...

again RANDOM CLAIM. show me proof, quote where we hate on him saying "Your moves ain't shit" Do I need to quote myself saying "Props on actually doing shows and making some moves"? Seriously, here is another example of you clearly not getting it, and lacking knowledge on this topic.

IF YOU DON'T KNOW SHIT ABOUT SOMETHING, DON'T SPEAK ON IT!!!

^not hard to grasp, lil daddy.

still waiting for that proof fam?

"First off, props I seen the show video, you performing cool shit. The lip syncing promo video was gay, but props on the show shit."

^what I said before I gave him MY honest OPINION about his music.

http://community.rapverse.com/showp...91&postcount=11

^my post




UMM.... notice how I said it was 3 out of 10+? how is that a pattern?

HATED ON: Tha Q, Ecko, J summers

Not Hated on: Tito, Seventhird, Phenom, DI Game, Tizz, Prah'ject, Senser, Triple_N, Past Tense, DaCument, and some others.

now ask yourself what Tha Q, Ecko and J summers have in common and THEN See why they get hated on. Get your facts straight kid. You can't be gone from somewhere for like a year and come back immediately thinking you know everything.

Lmao At These Dudes They Hate On Everybody.
Yall Are Lookin Childish Fo Real...
These Dudes Dont Even Know The Industy Haha

YOU DONT HATE ON THEM CUZ YOU BEEN ON THEY DICK SINCE 05'...LMAO
STFU ALREADY STUPID HERB. YOUR MAKIN YOURSELF LOOK DUMB :nono:

uhmm noo... and I ain't even talking about ME personally, because I don't got anything agaist Q, but majority of RV do. I'm talking about majority of RV which he was talking bout. Nice try though.

Don't you got another lip synching video to record or something, homie?

I NEVER LIP SYNCHED DUMB ASS THATS PROLY HOW YOU DO IT. YOU AND YA NON MOVE MAKIN ASS LOL

^ROFL @ you deleting that video from your youtube. AHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA point proven. Even you recognized how fucking corny that shit is.

and anyone who's a fan of GOOD rap music is gonna laugh at Enstinctz with me, so once again you can eat a dick.

I talk to whoever the fuck I want however the fuck I want, you pussy bitch, you think you'd scare me in person? You're a fucking boyscout compared to me, i'd crack your bitch jaw in 8 places, shut the fuck up like you're bad ass or something and could intimidate me, you don't fucking know me I just said that before, don't think for a second I don't talk to fucking clowns like you offline the same way I do online. Half the dumb shits in the world like you are pussy, get out my business dick rider

I was at the club yesterday, what the fuck were you doing? Typing this paragraph up. Get the fuck outta here next time u try and tell me I need a life and all I do is go on rv.

GET A FUCKING LOAD OF THIS GUY!!!

LMFAO WOW U WORK FOR A LOCAL RECORD LABEL!? REALLY!!! HOW FUCKING PROUD UR PARENTS MUST BE OF YOU!!!!

WHO GIVES A SHIT

That's not a damn thing, homie thinks cuz he works for some corny lil shit no one cares bout it makes him mr. proffesional hip hop business man who knows everything there is to know about the game. Lmaoo, my whole familly is musicians, my sister sings, moms sings, step dad plays drums, step brother plays guitars, cousins sings. I been around record labels and studios more then you, and I didn't even fuckig bother mentioning that because IT AINT SHIT. You're like the fucking clown who takes a trip to europe one summer and suddenly you know everything about the continent when you come back. If it's a fuckin LOCAL label then y'all aint doing anything but LOCAL shit, so all you fucking know is what it takes to make it LOCALLY in hip hop

CONGRATS, GO BECOME A LOCAL STAR

I can't argue with fucking morons who get big egos and think they know it all because they worked a summer job with a record label and recorded a few times in a studio, i'm fucking done with you man.

The worst part is this shit had nothing to do with me thinking Enstinctz sucks. Fuck you're stupid

^ don't they let you kids play outside in Canada?

lol @ you consistently being like "i was at the club last night dude, i have a life I PROMISE, wanna see pictures????" LOL

thats the exact shit i'm talkin about. i swear, the competitive negative mentality on RV has not changed.

and Darkmanner, wtf "proof" do you keep asking for??? have you ever heard of this phrase called "hip-hop"? you ever heard of it being a lifestyle OUTSIDE of soundclick and myspace? you ever heard of a cypher? plus i'm a DJ... what i'm saying is, i'm around hip-hop all the time and constantly participate in the culture every day that i wake up... thats me.

^outside of the net? Well, what about the ones you dickride? Summers and Ecko? They doing shit outside of the net, and they still got proof they can post on the net. Like this very thread here.

I don't see what's so hard about it. You made such a big deal about recording with big local acts, working on local record labels. Ok, then. Well, i'm sure you have the tracks you recorded? Post them up. If the local label is worth a damn they have a website. Post that up. You a DJ. post some of your shit up.

What he asked you was simple. He just wanted to see some of the work you said you're all up in.

I don't see why you keep having difficulty grasping these simple concepts, lil daddy

Im not trying to compete you dumb mother fucker, you said first "you're always on RV blah blah you need a life" some bullshit like that cept I be out with my friends having a social life so get off my dick lil daddy

and I wouldnt take pictures just to prove you a point, my friends there were gonna take pics already that's what bitches do bring cameras to clubs and take pics like it's something fun, don't ask me

Lool you're a fucking clown man thinking im tryna compete with you, WHAT COMPETITION HOMIE, WHERE IS THE COMPETITION

You aint shit, you been a bitch since you came out that stinking loose shit of a pussy your moms got, get the fuck out of here like i'd even consider you as competition on my level in any form

another fucking know it all hip hop wigger is just what the game needs hahaha I hope u become famous you fucking bitch made baggy eyed muh fucka

exactly my fuckin point...

NADA you basically aint got shit to show for your involvement in the idustry which shows you just a local star at most which a lot of people can pull off....

your pure unadulterated vanity always gives me jokes you make ME look humble lool s'all good though

He ain't got shit? More like he ain't got "Nada" (ooo wordplay). :evilgrin:

don't...you'll confuse these guys right about now, elevation takes time...

man, "If they don't like my steeze, they can suck my dick!" -Enstinctz aka the Lyrical God

Meh, these guys are just nobodies who think they're something special so when someone hates on them and their ego starts deflating they huff and puff like they're a fucking wolf tryna blow down a straw house with a pig inside.

Homie thinks he's Jay-Z knows everything about the game cuz he worked part time in the summer at a record label or something loll.

The band that plays at the restaurant who tells everyone what it takes to become famous, lmfaooo... that's who these guys are i'm loving it



Yea except i'm the first one of my friends to get my own apartment. Didn't I tell you to stop making fucking bullshit assumptions about me? Do you have an apartment? Or do you live at home with mommy and that's why you figured I certainly must to cuz *GASP* JTR could never be better you in something!! :shocked: