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p4ntzistheish 09-02-08 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by -TeamOne-
ok, all those comments were complete and utter bullshit, especially the final fantasy one, clearly you must be out your rabbit ass mind, obviously you have not played the other final fantasies because if you have you would not have said that comment. some of the shit i could meet you halfway on like the ninja gaiden one, but they are gonna take it and run with it.

give me ONE game, ONE game that comes even close to DC Universe, and DC universe online


I'm a Sony guy myslef but this is ignorant. Champions Online. Win.

Chris Stylez 09-02-08 09:10 PM

360 Made billions for Microsoft. PS3 lost billions for sony.

-TeamOne- 09-03-08 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by LFS
I'm a Sony guy myslef but this is ignorant. Champions Online. Win.



yea, we talked about that already, and DC Universe online is going o shit on it

Kirk 09-03-08 06:00 AM

Yeah. An MMO in a tiny flawed community. FTW. [/sarcasm]

09-03-08 06:11 AM

Haha. You said 'an'.

Kirk 09-03-08 06:16 AM

You shut your face.

Kirk 09-03-08 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by -TeamOne-
if you didnt know, dualshock 3 came out, and its much better than the regular sixaxis controller, and besides better graphics? better high definition, and better overall gameplay, shyt the question should be how are they not better on the PS3

And again, how is it better gameplay?

09-03-08 07:11 AM

Well naturally a better technology can run a game better. Just like if your computer was better technology than the PS3 it would have better gameplay than the PS3 although that wouldn't exactly affect the fun you get out of it.

Which is what you're talking about Kirk... The only defense the 360 has are titles and festivities. How much a video game is purchased has nothing to do with how much the system is purchased. Systems break and CDs get scratched up, each have to be replaced, this is what ruins calculating any actual percents by how much a game is bought.

Especially when broke asses barely manage to scrape the cash to buy a 360, then they throw on top of that one game. One game + One system. Which is what probably happened a lot in Halo 3's scenario.

In-Vision 09-03-08 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by 2v
Well naturally a better technology can run a game better. Just like if your computer was better technology than the PS3 it would have better gameplay than the PS3 although that wouldn't exactly affect the fun you get out of it.

Which is what you're talking about Kirk... The only defense the 360 has are titles and festivities. How much a video game is purchased has nothing to do with how much the system is purchased. Systems break and CDs get scratched up, each have to be replaced, this is what ruins calculating any actual percents by how much a game is bought.

Especially when broke asses barely manage to scrape the cash to buy a 360, then they throw on top of that one game. One game + One system. Which is what probably happened a lot in Halo 3's scenario.



better gameplay has very little to do with better technology.

09-03-08 07:36 AM

*smacks you*

wrong.

You get better gameplay on a Nintendo 64 rather than with the same game being played on your computer because of a little something called Resolution. Display resolution has everything to do with screening technology and preset console resolution projection.

So in fact, it has absolutely every fucking thing to do with better technology.

get off the nuts you pussy bitch

-TeamOne- 09-03-08 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by 2v
*smacks you*

wrong.

You get better gameplay on a Nintendo 64 rather than with the same game being played on your computer because of a little something called Resolution. Display resolution has everything to do with screening technology and preset console resolution projection.

So in fact, it has absolutely every fucking thing to do with better technology.

get off the nuts you pussy bitch


exactly .

In-Vision 09-03-08 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by 2v
*smacks you*

wrong.

You get better gameplay on a Nintendo 64 rather than with the same game being played on your computer because of a little something called Resolution. Display resolution has everything to do with screening technology and preset console resolution projection.

So in fact, it has absolutely every fucking thing to do with better technology.

get off the nuts you pussy bitch



actually, you are a fucking idiot who tries way too hard to look like he knows what he's talking about.


"For the television show, see GamePlay HD.
Gameplay includes all player experiences during the interaction with game systems, especially formal games. Proper use is coupled with reference to "what the player does". Arising alongside game development in the 1980s, gameplay was used solely within the context of video or computer games, though now its popularity has begun to see use in the description of other, more traditional, game forms. Generally, the term gameplay in video game terminology is used to describe the overall experience of playing the game excluding factors like graphics and sound. The term game mechanics refers to sets of rules in a game that are intended to produce an enjoyable gaming experience. Current academic discussions tend to favor terms like game mechanics specifically to avoid 'gameplay'.

Despite criticism, the term gameplay has gained acceptance in popular gaming nomenclature, being the only common phrase describing story quality, ease of play, and overall desirability of a game all in one word. Some gaming reviews give a specific score for gameplay, along with graphics, sound, and replay value. Many consider "gameplay" to be the most important indicator of the quality of a game."


both of you, shut the fuck up. Technology has little to do with gameplay....because technology can't make someone enjoy a game more....and thats what gameplay is...how much you enjoy the game as a whole. technology can certainly help....but there are other things that need to be on point...for it to even be considered as being able to help.

teamone....you're just happy someone finally agreed with you.

2v...stop talking...nobody here values ANYTHING you say....mostly because of how false/mislead it usually is.

In-Vision 09-03-08 01:57 PM

oh....and...i don't get better "resolution" out of a 64 then i do on my computer...to assume so is rediculous...as if pc's arn't capable of out-doing n64 of what you think "gameplay" is.....i would be shocked if you could even buy a pc that couldn't outdo a 64 in that area.

that's the most retarded thing you've said so far.

-TeamOne- 09-03-08 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by In-Vision
actually, you are a fucking idiot who tries way too hard to look like he knows what he's talking about.


"For the television show, see GamePlay HD.
Gameplay includes all player experiences during the interaction with game systems, especially formal games. Proper use is coupled with reference to "what the player does". Arising alongside game development in the 1980s, gameplay was used solely within the context of video or computer games, though now its popularity has begun to see use in the description of other, more traditional, game forms. Generally, the term gameplay in video game terminology is used to describe the overall experience of playing the game excluding factors like graphics and sound. The term game mechanics refers to sets of rules in a game that are intended to produce an enjoyable gaming experience. Current academic discussions tend to favor terms like game mechanics specifically to avoid 'gameplay'.

Despite criticism, the term gameplay has gained acceptance in popular gaming nomenclature, being the only common phrase describing story quality, ease of play, and overall desirability of a game all in one word. Some gaming reviews give a specific score for gameplay, along with graphics, sound, and replay value. Many consider "gameplay" to be the most important indicator of the quality of a game."


both of you, shut the fuck up. Technology has little to do with gameplay....because technology can't make someone enjoy a game more....and thats what gameplay is...how much you enjoy the game as a whole. technology can certainly help....but there are other things that need to be on point...for it to even be considered as being able to help.

teamone....you're just happy someone finally agreed with you.

2v...stop talking...nobody here values ANYTHING you say....mostly because of how false/mislead it usually is.



blah blah blah

STFU

technology has a great deal to do with gameplay, the mechanics, making the player do what he or she does, the speed the game runs, ect. ect. the PS3's specs shit on the 360's, therefore games that are on both systems will have better graphics, move smoother, faster, much faster loading times ect. ect. are you going to be a retard and make me spell it out AGAIN, jus STFU

WhoAmI 09-03-08 03:01 PM

wow damn lol back to your corners people round 2 starts in a couple minutes

In-Vision 09-03-08 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by -TeamOne-
blah blah blah

STFU

technology has a great deal to do with gameplay, the mechanics, making the player do what he or she does, the speed the game runs, ect. ect. the PS3's specs shit on the 360's, therefore games that are on both systems will have better graphics, move smoother, faster, much faster loading times ect. ect. are you going to be a retard and make me spell it out AGAIN, jus STFU



lmao...did you not read the part that said excludes graphics?

anyways...you can have the best graphics...move the smoothest....move faster....and all that..and it still won't make me enjoy the game more...it won't make anyone enjoy the game more........let me spell it ffor YOU...

gameplay - how much people enjoy a given game. the way everything fits together....


aka....there isn't a big enough difference between the technology of ps3...and 360...to make the gameplay better of any given game.


and i've said this a million fucking times..i've played a ton of multi-platform games...especially sports games.....on ps3(i own a 360)...and 360 shits on ps3 in every aspect for at-least sports games...other games..i can't really tell the difference between the two..but with sports games...the graphics are cleaner...the game is less glitchy and jumpy...i love 2k sports...and i made a deicision not to replace my 360 with a ps3...simply because it wasn't as good on the ps3....here is a prime example...i don't fuck with game sliders on choops 2k8 or nba 2k8 for my 360....but to get the ps3 to move as fast as my 360...i had to fuck with the game sliders....a lot...and then it got real fucking jumpy and glitchy..shit was terrible.

you can talk about technology all you want....but it doesn't make the gameplay better...

n64 had better technology then the playstation

how more people still bought playstations..even after 64 came out?

-TeamOne- 09-03-08 05:03 PM

wow, your like a broken record saying the same bullshit over and over dude, and it makes no sense at all, 360's shit is less jumpy? bullshit, im done wit you dude your not worth it, there are so many fallacies in your bullshit argument and its so annoying

In-Vision 09-03-08 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by -TeamOne-
wow, your like a broken record saying the same bullshit over and over dude, and it makes no sense at all, 360's shit is less jumpy? bullshit, im done wit you dude your not worth it, there are so many fallacies in your bullshit argument and its so annoying



what didn't make sense? lmao...you're a fucking idiot dude.

the multi-platform games i've played on 360 and ps3...are pretty much the same...untill i play sports games...especially 2ksports games....then the graphics get worse...it's not naturally jumpy...but when i have to fuck with the sliders to get it to run similair to the way it NATURALLY runs on the 360...that's when it gets jumpy/glitchy.

if that doesn't make sense to you...actually fuck it....you're just too fucking retarded to present any kind of solid argument, period. Whether or not you're intelligent enough to understand the very basic things i've been saying..is irrelevant..because you havn't brought up any reasonable arguments of your own...other then "it's better"

you said ps3 was the console if you liked fps....but...all the fps you've pointed out but 1...are on 360...then you said it's better for hd reasons...when most people don't have hd tv's...or nice enough hd tv's to even notice a difference....there is no fallacy in anything i've said....everything i've said is 100% true.....but...everyone of your aguments has been flawed.

I'm getting a ps3...simply for exclusive titles...but will I purchase any multi-platform games for it? fuck no...i've played games on both...and either...there isn't a big enough difference for me to notice...or 360..is in fact better....you can say that what i just is a "fallacy" all you want...but you are seriously a fucking nerd if you think i would go out of my way to lie for microsoft. If i enjoyed the gaming experience more on ps3...

i would be on your side....but I don't....and neither do most people..obviously

Kirk 09-03-08 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by -TeamOne-
wow, your like a broken record saying the same bullshit over and over dude, and it makes no sense at all, 360's shit is less jumpy? bullshit, im done wit you dude your not worth it, there are so many fallacies in your bullshit argument and its so annoying

So, you've run out of shit to say, eh?

09-03-08 07:00 PM

actually everything invision said makes sense.

In the way that adding a vibrating chair that goes along with your game, or a wii controller that you have to swing, or a fucking dildo in your ass that fucks you as the guy on the other side of the screen thrusts, that would count as Gameplay.


And I don't suppose if there are any virtual differences between a game on any two platforms (Ps3, 360) then the gameplay would be exactly the same.

Unless the only thing you could compare would be graphics, how fast the game is read and projected, and possibly how detailed it is in-game. Invision is countering that with "Well those things are so insignificant that they aren't really affecting the gameplay at all"

That doesn't change the fact, what-so-ever, that a PS3 has better gameplay than an Xbox360 when it comes to the SAME GAMES. The Xbox360 has better Gameplay because of it's supposedly higher enjoyed, exclusive titles.

So it's not that anyone was dropping false information at all. It's really a miscommunication between the people that bothered to argue.

In-Vision 09-03-08 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by 2v
actually everything invision said makes sense.

In the way that adding a vibrating chair that goes along with your game, or a wii controller that you have to swing, or a fucking dildo in your ass that fucks you as the guy on the other side of the screen thrusts, that would count as Gameplay.


And I don't suppose if there are any virtual differences between a game on any two platforms (Ps3, 360) then the gameplay would be exactly the same.

Unless the only thing you could compare would be graphics, how fast the game is read and projected, and possibly how detailed it is in-game. Invision is countering that with "Well those things are so insignificant that they aren't really affecting the gameplay at all"

That doesn't change the fact, what-so-ever, that a PS3 has better gameplay than an Xbox360 when it comes to the SAME GAMES. The Xbox360 has better Gameplay because of it's supposedly higher enjoyed, exclusive titles.

So it's not that anyone was dropping false information at all. It's really a miscommunication between the people that bothered to argue.



No, No and No.

LMAO...

wow dude..ps3 graphics arn't better on a lot of games. does the ps3 harness the potential to have better graphics? yeah..but they havnt gotten there yet. either way...that's not what i was saying...at all........as far as the same games....either the ps3 has too similair to notice gameplay(excluding how much i hate the controller)....or 360's gameplay is better.....as i've said..the sports games i've played...360 is smoother...cleaner...faster..and everything else.

so no....gameplay is not better on ps3 for similair games....for the games i've played at-least.

Kirk 09-03-08 07:52 PM

http://www.gamespot.com/features/6191251/index.html

p4ntzistheish 09-03-08 08:33 PM

sorry but Sony hasn't had a good MMO since Everquest. and that was only good cuz it was "first". DCU won't even beat CoH/CoV.

-TeamOne- 09-03-08 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Kirk
So, you've run out of shit to say, eh?


no, im just not going to waste my time on some kids who are going to say the same shyt every time, instead of presenting a new argument, its boring,

here are your two main fallacies, im going to assume you know what they are since you did say your argument had none, but you can google them if you like.

ad populum

ad ignorantiam

the link only further proved my point, and the HD thing is bullshit, everyone has HD tv's nowadays if they have 360's or PS3's, at least most of the people i know, its not like they are hella expensive anymore, especially college kids, they buy it with their refund checks. i didnt say the gameplay was due only to graphics, so dont hit me with that bullshit, im not going to reiterate the shit i said already about that because im assuming that your not a fucking monkey so you have some level of human intelligence and you already comprehended what i said, but chose to completely ignore it, and throw shit back at me, just like a monkey, if your going to come back and say some more bullshit, please dont even worry about it, keep it to yourself, cuz i have better things to do

Kirk 09-03-08 09:46 PM

Lol. That link proves PS3 has better technology and that 360 is still outdoing them. Apparently... you cannot read or see. I'm not going to argue with a guy that resorts to insults when he feels cornered. Got some room to talk about arguing with kids.

-TeamOne- 09-03-08 10:15 PM

your kidding right, that link didnt prove shit, on some clips ps3 was better on some 360's were better, not to mention that its going to bring down the graphics with a screen capture anyway

Kirk 09-03-08 10:19 PM

Did you read what it said? The experts that do this shit for a living said that either the 360 edged it out or that they were better than the PS3's while looking at them system to system. You can't look at them and tell me that the majority of those looked better on the 360.

-TeamOne- 09-03-08 10:34 PM

there you go with those fallacies again, im sure a genius like you knows which one that argument falls under

09-03-08 10:43 PM

All I had to do was scroll down a bit and saw this:

"Everyone knows that these are unfair comparisons, as someone on youtube found out, (cant remeber video but have a look) the reason why the colours look drained is because companies like gamespot and gametrailers forget one little setting which puts everything how it should on the playstation. If you click on settings then display and look for rgp full they will leave it on limited they should put it to full, i tried it my self there is a huge difference. If you got a hi-def tv put it to limited play a game then put it on full and see the difference."

so someone argue with that first :x

Kirk 09-03-08 10:46 PM

Yes. Because facts are fallacies. Good call on that one. You should probably just not respond until you have an arguement that doesn't consist of you telling me how wrong I am without any kind of information supporting it.

-TeamOne- 09-03-08 10:58 PM

no not because facts are fallacies

Ad Verecundiam dog

I dont need to tell you how your wrong because you dont have a valid argument

your making an ass out of yourself so just stop posting

Kirk 09-03-08 10:58 PM

Lol. I think he means RGB. Sure, that might be the case. But even then, I've read from multiple sources, seen videos, and image comparisons, that even with the display setting switched to full, that it still doesn't outdo the 360's graphics. At best, they are only equal to them. Which still doesn't justify anyone saying that PS3 is superior to the 360.

-TeamOne- 09-03-08 11:00 PM

doesent matter how many videos and pictures you see, the fact remains that sending the signal from the console to the computer through a video card, or whatever other means its going to distort the image, if even by a little, it even depends on how good your video card is, what may look great to me could look like shit to you and vice versa

Kirk 09-03-08 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by -TeamOne-
no not because facts are fallacies

Ad Verecundiam dog

I dont need to tell you how your wrong because you dont have a valid argument

your making an ass out of yourself so just stop posting

Ad hominem, dog. Don't make an ass out of yourself.

Kirk 09-03-08 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by -TeamOne-
doesent matter how many videos and pictures you see, the fact remains that sending the signal from the console to the computer through a video card, or whatever other means its going to distort the image, if even by a little, it even depends on how good your video card is, what may look great to me could look like shit to you and vice versa

I've seen games on full on the PS3 and on 360 in person, bud. Mainly Bioshock.

Kirk 09-03-08 11:15 PM

And quit talking shit about me not making a valid arguement when you haven't made one in this entire thread. The PS3's technology is superior to 360's. But, if you're not using it to do anything better than your competition, what good is it?

-TeamOne- 09-03-08 11:23 PM

when you point out the fallacies in my argument, then you can tell me i dont have a valid argument, until then STFU

their not using it to do anything better? of course they are, the 360 has fuckin awesome games but dont get me wrong, most of them are just sequels, and thats why they are loved so much, the PS3 has been coming out with entire new games, thats why everyones so hesitant, and thats besides the other games they have

Kirk 09-03-08 11:35 PM

Some of the biggest games on 360 have been original titles.

Cola 09-03-08 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Kirk
Lol. That link proves PS3 has better technology and that 360 is still outdoing them. Apparently... you cannot read or see. I'm not going to argue with a guy that resorts to insults when he feels cornered. Got some room to talk about arguing with kids.



ur not talkin on MSN...n i dont like it

Kirk 09-03-08 11:40 PM

Your shit didn't flash, son.

Edit: You're not even fuckin' on.


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