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MR. LEGEND 08-27-03 12:31 PM

Huh Muhh, you sound so fuckin stupid...soo fuckin nieve. You have the slightest clue at what goes on in the hood. WHY, things go on in the hood. You got it twisted soo bad, you have no Idea wtf your talking about. It's like me, spittin knowledge on Korean culture. I don't know shit about them, and I would look like a jack ass talking about it. You sound like a bigot, you are truly ignorant, and you have no idea how many toes your stepping on. Life is hard man, you probably ain't mad it off ya moms titty yet.
You say stupid shit like we're killing each other over graffiti tags. What stupid ass movie did you get that shit from?

let me run it down, and clear up you misconceptions, so that you may see how stupid you sound.

Most hoods are broken up into different gang territories, Why? these territories is where they sell dope. To mark the bouderies, they do graffiti. As in this is where we make our money, you can't sell here. They will sometimes have some of the members names, maybe the governers, cheifs, and lieutenants<--different ranks. To cross out one of their names means that you want to kill them. For whatever reason you may have (trying to takeover, beef, disrespect), I don't know of anyone who does that shit anymore, basically it's SOS<--shoot on site.
Now, *why don't we get off our asses and work*, lol is like the #1 "I'm white, and ignorant" Quote of all times. Let me break down some aspects of RACISM for you, and why we don't get off our asses. lol
1. Besides the Arabs and Koreans, there are no businesses in the hood. And they ain't soft neither man. They got shotguns and Magnums behind the counter, they want you to try somethin I believe. They'll talk to you anyway they want, and you can't do nothing about it.
2.If you don’t have credit, you can’t get credit. A lot of us was never schooled on credit and checkbooks and shit
3.Most people in the hood don't have both parents, and it's hard for a single parent to raise a perfect child in the middle of all the hell.
3. How would you feel, if you went to 10 job interviews, and none of them hired you? The only people that will fuck with you is McDonalds, Burger king, Walmart, and the gas station, cause your Black. You start off making five dollars and fifteen cents an hour, so let’s calculate.
If they give you a full time position, you will make about $421 dollars, $271 after good ole Uncle Sam who loves you very much takes his cut. So that’s $542 dollars a month, (and that’s IF you get a full time position). Okay what’s rent $525 dollars a month. So what happened to food in shit. What happened, to the light bill, gas bill, water bill? Yeah that leaves you in the negative dawg. How can you feed your kids in the negative? How can you send them to college? How can you build…when you in the negative. You better not get sick or in an accident, cause you don’t have an insurance plan. Hey, Welfare will give you $400 in food stamps, and up to $425, a month, and give you a medical card for you and your children, so why degrade yourself, by working at a place where they don’t respect you, and fire a new person every week?

But $425 a month is still not enough, so you need a hustle. Everybody in the hood got a hustle. Now when I say hustle, your probably thinking drug dealing. But thast only because your ignorant, can’t blame you, your white. A hustle is anything that can make you money on the side that Uncle Sam can’t touch. Examples, a lot of chicks do hair, some people bootleg CD’s, some dudes will fix things in ya crib. Some niggas work on cars. Some people boost clothes and sell them to the hood at discounted prices. But the only lucrative fast money making hustles is drug dealing. You gotta holla at chief for that, cause if you set up without permission…fuck with his money, and they will deal with you. That’s where you get drive-bys, and gang violence, by disrespecting someone, or their family or their money.
We wanna look fly too, how would you feel if you had no chance of ever enjoying the pleasures of the finer things. Pretty girls won’t talk to you, cause you share clothes with your family. So yeah some of us sell our soul to the devil just to shine, to be the man to be appreciated and looked up to at least once. To put real food on the table and be the hero of your family. So when we do get there, we wanna show off to everybody because it’s amazing to have a gold chain, when a while ago, YOU or anybody around you could barely pay the rent.
So now you see some of the origins of hip-hop, cause through all the bad times, and fucked up shit that happens, we are still going to have fun. We are going to rock, our clothes in a style that you would wanna copy. We’re gonna create new slang for you to feel cool saying.That’s what hip-hop is derived from. Niggas was in the park jackin electricity from the street light to have a party. To relieve our stresses, sorta like the blues…

So before you open you stupid ass mouth again, make sure you know what’chu talking about.

kool-killa 08-27-03 01:21 PM

^^^^thats so fuckin true...............

i use to sell herbs, and burnt cds......**ducks copywrite officers**

iam still fuckin broke tho~ :(

kool-killa 08-27-03 01:26 PM

^^^wasnt this supposed to be a canibus discussion anyway???

yeah the man is fuckin sick with it..........

D-Dizzle 08-27-03 02:47 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by DEL the funkee
Yes.

You people still dont understand.

Its not about "Street respect" or whatever, Its great yall can relate to what the artist are going through.

But this isnt a drama movie, so fuck the emotions.

Its about making good music.

I dont understand whats so great about liking a artist that "runs n guns" or pimps or fuckin whatever, but SUCKS musically.

Ill take good music anyday.

Thank you.



^^^See thats were you not understanding the bigger picture, IT's more than about making good music, talent is only half of it......

If you want to have fans...you have to have poeple who connect to you, who dig your personality or feel your thoughts are like they are. You mean to tell me after all the shit R. Kelly went through, he debuted at platinum the first week just cuz of music?...You mean to tell me 50 cent had on of the most common hip-hop songs ever because of just music, you tellin' me Pac's all Eyez on me" is still moving units and is currently at 10 mil 'cuz of just music. ....

Look at ya boi in your sig there, if it was just music then he'd be on poeples list with Primo, The Clones, and Timbo..but it's goes deeper than that...RJD2 don't have THAT SOUND. ANd yes I've heard his shit before, The Deadringer album and alot of the shit he did with Copywrite. He a lacks that certain rhythem and knock to it where a nigga be like.."YHea thats whats up"....That ghetto thump, that shit is very important in a hip-hop sound...I just using him as an example because you gotta connect with the hood to be 'In the hip-hop circle" anything other than that is when we start calling ya'll backpack, alternative, nerd rap, white boy rap, spaceship shit any other type of musical slur you wanna name..becasue ya'll tryin' and make the shit textbook, when it's souposed to be soul music...ya'll tryin to hard, man.....

Saying how dope, cats like Slug, and Atmosphere, MF Doom and all them mu'fuckas are don't mean shit if the votes are coming from Minnesota, Dakota, Miane and shit like that in middle america..in the heart of the hood is where it matters, this is where it startes and ends at..And I acually like Eyedea, I think he is a good freestyle/battler but I heard his albums and that shit did not connect to my soul...that shit was lame amd boring...

And a note to MR. Legend you brining up some good points, joe. ANd I feel you, but I know from experience going back and forth on here ain't gonna do no good with these cats and they just stuck in they false reality....Just like you say, it's like how I look like telling a mexican how it's is to be mexican... Alot of poeples remarks on here is just as vauge is the Klansmen themselfs, and the problem is ya'll don't even realize it...At least the KKK KNOW they stereotypical and bigot....

BLACK FLAME 08-27-03 05:40 PM

D-dizzle and MR. LEGEND Why arugue? they just wont understand. I'm not saying I bring glory to the street life but some of you don't know what people that live and/or lived in the ghetto been through. They don't know sometimes you have almost no other choices but to sell drugs or maybe join a gang. I don't need to explain it ether. What kills me is the total lack of knowledge about the streets. Do you think we put the drugs and guns on the street? Ever hear about the Secert War? No. Is it our fault when you call the cops in the city they take forever to get over there? No. WTF tell me if the cops don't come in time when someone is after you WTF are you suppose to do? Stand there and get fucking shot? Is it our fault there are crooked cops looking to make a extra buck and sell drugs to drug dealers? No. Is it our fault that the penial system is made to make minorites go to jail for longer periods of time and are harsher towards us? Did you ever fucking wonder why if you get caught with cocaine in the powder form the penailty is less severe that when it's made into crack rocks? Did you ever wonder why the lottery was made legal? Some of you (Even many minorities) don't even begin to understand the deepness of why the streets are the way they are.

BLACK FLAME 08-27-03 05:51 PM

BTW I can see why some of you think the way you do but don't sit here and act like your a expert on something you don't know much about.

kgm 08-27-03 06:05 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by MR. LEGEND
Now when I say hustle, your probably thinking drug dealing. But thast only because your ignorant, can’t blame you, your white.

That just made you sound like the most ignorant fuck on this site. Fucking loser.

MR. LEGEND 08-27-03 06:16 PM

^^explain^^
It's the truth...you gotta admit, you didn't know some of that shit now did you. and I'm far from losing, as you can tell I'm young good looking, and like Bambi's mama, I got a lil doe. [Copyright 2003 MR. LEGEND DO NOT USE WITHOUT EXPRESS WRITTEN CONSENT OF THE AFOREMENTIONED]

kgm 08-27-03 06:21 PM

You come across with an attitude like "only black people live in the ghetto, and only black people have divorced parents, and only black people had fucked up childhoods, and only black people got to hustle in order to make it." What the fuck do you know that goes on outside of your ghetto, I grew up in a ghetto that was full of Mexicans, do you think that the same shit didn't go on there, survival is a human trait not a black trait.

MR. LEGEND 08-27-03 06:44 PM

Yeah, but this discussion stemmed from Hip-Hop, hip-hop did come from the ghetto. Did you read anything Black Flame said, all of the black folks that agreed with me? I'm not makin this shit up, you hear "Blacks have longer jail sentences, than whites", and you think that's bullshit. But let me explain it, then maybe you'll understand:

White man get caught with a bag of coke, black man get caught with a bag of coke. White man calls someone to bail him out, calls HIS lawyer, and is guilty with intent to use. The white man is sentenced to 1 year probation. The black man may have to sit in jail till his court date. You can sit in the holding cell for only a limited time before you get shipped to county. And county ain't no fun...I heard. OK OK let's say someone bails the black man out, they put up the thousand bucks (same as the white man). He doesn't have a lawyer, and the public defender doesn't give a hot piece of shit what happens to you. So he'll tell you shit like, you can't win with this, and tries to make a deal with the prosecuter. The judge will give that man time in the clink, and not think about it.

I don't know what it is, but if you go to court with a lawyer, the out come is so much better. All they do is make deals with the prosecuter.

You see, and the coke could've been planted on the black man. The cops will frame anybody out in the hood if they have a criminal at large. Snatch you up and say this the dude that was doin all those robberies. And then what, you don't have a lawyer, and you fightin for your freedom.

Hard times man...misery loves company, when you in a conversation and someone, and you like yeah yeah I feel you I know what'chu saying what you going through". That's what gangsta rap is....

kgm 08-27-03 06:59 PM

First, I never disagreed with anything you just posted, second I highly doubt that you could explain anything worthwhile to me, and third nothing that you just posted at all explains why you make comments like "you're white so you dont get, or, your ignorant, but its okay, cause your white." One could also say that it is a class issue as much as it is a race issue. OJ is a fucking murderer, but a rich one, and where is he? If you have the cash, it doesn't matter what color you are.

MuhThugga 08-27-03 07:31 PM

Give me a fucking break, Mr. Legend.......

"But thast only because your ignorant, can’t blame you, your white"
^^You call me an ignorant biggot making statements like that?

Like KGM said, you act as though blacks are the only people that live in the ghetto. You make it sound like black people are the only ones with fucked up lives. You make it sound like no black man on the face of the earth will ever get representation in court. To you, a black family in suburbia is unheard of.

My two best friends are black. They used to live in the ghetto. They rented a house down in Delaware next to my grandparents and that is where I befriended them. They now reside in a neighborhood off of 40 and are doing pretty well. They didn't sell drugs. They didn't join gangs. They didn't rob any stores. Their parents fucking worked their asses off and made some money. So don't even come after me with that I don't know what I'm talking about bullshit. My uncle is a cop, and he has told me about people getting killed because they painted over another gang members graf tag. It's not from a fucking movie, it is fucking real. Do you realize that former gang members volunteer their time and work to paint and remove gang marks to reduce some of the bloodshed?
I don't care what you really think about me. Call me a racist. Call me a biggot. Call me an ignorant whiote spoiled fuck. I don't care. The point in the matter is that these people need to stop abandoning all hope and get out there and find a fucking job.

You speak as though you are the posterboy for the ghetto. Here's another fucking idea, you can't go to trial without representation. The court will provide you a lawyer if you don't have one. You can thank Gideon for that.

You are guilty of the same crime you accuse me of. You don't know jack shit about suburbia. The world does not revolve around the ghetto, more importantly, you and your problems.

What if everyone just stopped to think for a minute. Just one minute, a consecutive 60 seconds, everyone stopped to think together. What would result of it? Would people realize that the shit they have been doing is unimportant, insignificant?
Would they all stop and just say, "No"?

I'll tell you what, there would be absolutley no crime, no spending, no killings, no nothing. It would be as though time stood still. Maybe then people would realize that we only live on this earth for a short amount of time, and that the social problems can be fixed with cooperation.

You act as though the ghetto is fucking out of control and nothing can be done to help it. Is it that it is out of all hope, or that you people don't care enough to do something about it?

All it takes is a little cooperation and patience.

BLACK FLAME 08-27-03 07:35 PM

He makes a good point with the social class theory. It's true that the higher your social class/more money you make the less important ethnicity becomes.

BTW MR LEGEND saying he's ignorant of it just because he's white is stereotypical thing to say.

KGM read my last post and that just touches the surface on why the streets are the way they're.


To the main topic at hand I do think underground heads can make tracks that come from the soul. Most people that dismiss the tracks are people that don't compeletly understand where these artist are coming from. I find the opposite true as well, commerical heads can make meaningful cd's but the people that dismiss them are usally people who don't know where they coming from at all. That's why we have both undergrond and commerical so everyone can get something they like from hip-hop. That's why I love hip-hop it covers so much almost anyone can be moved by it.

BLACK FLAME 08-27-03 07:48 PM

BTW MuhThugga I don't know if you're talking to me or mr legend but all I know Is I lived and the city and I got out and I never sold drugs or joined a gang but I could see why someone would. The ghetto is not what the whole world is about but to a person that knows nothing but that that's what they're world is about. I lived in the surburbs for a few years and I can honestly tell a little from both side of life. You must know this though, if we don't consistantly let the world know how the ghetto is how the hell is it going to change? Minorities do not have the voting power to ratify the laws that need to be made to fix the shit. I agree not everyone in the city ghetto is doing there best to make it a better place but can you blame them to much? They're many things holding minorites back some people just feel trapped. That's no excuse but still. If you're not good at a sport or have brains it's hard to get out the ghetto. My dad is one of the most hard working persons I know. He works 2 jobs and he's still in the middle of the fucking shit hole. No he doesn't do drugs or run with gangs just a average person trying to get a peice of the pie.

MuhThugga 08-27-03 10:59 PM

^^And I respect your dad for that. I understand where you are coming from but Mr. Legend is coming with this "Abandon all hope, woe to the black man, you racist, ignorant white fuck" attitude......

I'm just saying that a little cooperation goes a long ways, and that if people want the change then they will do something to make it change.

I know that the minorities don't have an excellent voice, but Hell, MLK led the Civil Rights Movement, the African Americans spoke out then, why can't those that live in the ghetto speak out now?

Change has been done before.

It just pisses me off when a black person accuses me of owning slaves and being a racist when I have never participated in either, and they feel that I owe them something for "their ancestor's troubles." So they sit on their ass and expect the world to be handed to them.
It also erks me to hear people complain about how hard the ghetto is, and then glorify how they participate in illegal activities. I'm just saying, stop committing the crimes and maybe, just maybe, some things will turn around.

You and my friends are prime examples that you don't need to sell drugs to make money. You just need to work hard.

Things can be done. People just can't limit themselves. And they will have to want the change bad enough to do something about it.

TeraRhymes 08-28-03 05:39 AM

hmm... bis is sick no fuckin doubt.... i actually like his style... oh yeah as far as the beef with em IT STARTED CUZ bis thot EM GHOST WROTE THE LL DISS TOWARDS HIM and also em refused to do a track with bis cuz he wasnt feelin the beat.... << reason why they got beef

wogzta 08-29-03 11:45 PM

^ hey thanks for that, i was wonderin where the beef started.... i thought bis just felt sorry for Stan or sumthing

MR. LEGEND 09-02-03 01:53 PM

No it's not WOe the black man, and your a racist, it's you lack of respect for our culture man. I try to explain but YOU STILL DON't hear my point. You bash gangster rap, like it just isn't valid, for inner city blacks to tell their story. You'll take their styles of clothing or their slang, but you would dissmiss them and the problems they have. You look at it like we're glorifing it, thats cause your ignorant. (when I say ignorant, meaning having no knowledge of what you speak about).

Hey have you noticed Dr. King, Malcom X, Huey P (Black Panthers), ain't here no more? Do you think that shit was a coincidence, all of our leaders set up and Murdered? Now we go

As for our ancestors, when we were freed, we was hundreds of years behind whites. We didn't have any jobs, we didn't have any homes, discriminated against.we could barely talk right (sound familiar). While, whites were going to college building busnesses capitalizing from recostruction. For generations, we were slaves and knew nothing else. I mean we had to sneak to learn how too read and shit. And you wonder why we are so far behind? What have we ever had to work with? When we get something together, and start a little unity, (ie the civil rights movement), we get shot down. You can' deny discrimination, you can't just say "it doesn't matter!", cause it's HERE, and you don't feel it WE do.

Shit, when you get pulled over, do the police search you and degrade your father. have y'all standing on the side of the road with two police cars, and they smackin your dad around disrespecting him, calling a nigger and asking him wheres the dope at. Can you even imagine that, the humility? No you can't, and you never even went looking for it, cause it's not in your face.

It's takes hella perseverance to raise someone positive within HELL, to raise a rose from concrete (ever heard of that?). You gotta keep your seed, away from everything the "powers that be" has dumped in the hood. You have to gettem past, the images of sex, past the drugs which offer only a temporary escape from everyday pains, you have to instill pride, Yeah, we can't get any jobs worth shit, but heh it's the right thing to do. Past the dealers riding in shit that costs more than your apartment building, telling you "you can have this, if you wasn't fucking with that bullshit job",

See you don't know that shit, you never thought to look cause it DOESN'T EFFECT YOU.

When you go to a job interview, you talk normal (to them), maybe ya parents gave some tips. Well if ya moms NEVER had a job, NEVER finished school, htf is she gonna teach you that shit.

They're better at sweeping it under the rug nowadays.

Now back to my point, hey if you like corny-bus that's cool. Cause you can relate to "twice the speed of 2 pentium chips". Shit, alot of us can relate to that, we don't even care about that shit. Some of us rather hear about people things going on around us...

MuhThugga 09-02-03 09:52 PM

You are so stuck on this idea that the white man owes you the world due to your ancestor's mistreatment that cotton balls are pouring out of your ass.

Now shut up and go pick my cottonfields.

Racist enough for you?

MR. LEGEND 09-03-03 01:05 AM

You see boys and girls...you see how racism can make you ignorant and stupid? I'm tryin hard to explain to this dumb muh'fuckah why things are the way they are, and this is all they could come up with?

^^this is why there will always racism, instead of saying "oh, I understand now, maybe we should try...", this jack ass tells me to pick his cotton fields. lol I shoulda listened to Black Flame.

It's a shame, we'll remain in the ghetto's and his grandson will be telling my grandson the same thing on this very site....sickening

WHy don't you go tell Mos Def that shit, or any black man in person, bet he gaybash your stupid ass...lol

Otherwordz 09-03-03 06:03 AM

^^^yo man...stop thinkin' that the white man is out to oppress you...this ain't the 50'z and 60'z where racism is prominant in our society...I admit...there is some discrimination going on...but y'all brought that upon yaselvez with all the hatred spreding through the ghettos infesting our communtiez...and black people ain't the only onez that are the blunt of discrimination...every race goez through it one way or another...like a white man in a part of Africa that's not British would go through discrimination...even a white man walking through a ghetto in America would go through it...I'm not racist but black people are usually the 1st onez to say that they are discriminated against because of some shit that happened decades ago...while in the meantime they are the most prejudiced one'z of all the racez...you don't hear Latino'z and Asianz babbling on about how they are oppressed and they all had it just as bad as blacks did...so if the criminalz of the black community stop committing crimez then maybe blacks wouldn't have a bad name like they do...but like I stated above...these dayz...all the prejudice against you...you brought upon yaself...there are educated black men just as there are educated white, Spanish,and Asian men...look at Colin Powell...you think if America was as racist as y'all claim we were then we would have a black secretary of state??????

prophiit 09-03-03 07:49 AM

sigh..............canibus is okay.....he has some ill lyrics but i'm just not a fan. RAP came from the streets..true enough however HIP HOP is a culture aka a mixture of people and ideals.....both sides make valid points someone who never lived in the ghetto will never see things the way a person who lives it everyday will..."whites" see things differently than "blacks" and "browns".
the beauty of hip hop is we all embrace these elements to create an entirely new universe of thought...........canibus is not a nerd he is a genius........literally.......not every street cat is gonna feel the way he feels or express themselves in the manner he does...."gangsta rap" does not shit on "concious rap" they are just two different forms of expression. expand your thought process ALL OF YOU......think in new ways and try to see the other side of the mirror....too often we are trapped in a sense of "my world is all that matters" and forget other people have other experiences and perceptions of life.........how can you hope to grow as both and emcee and a person if you cannot open yourself up to new things.............."you must learn to look before you can really see"..........most of us will not live to see a world devoid of discrimination but if we start now learning to understand and accept varying points of view maybe one day the generation that achieves this great success will look back and say "hey, they paved the way for our current happiness" wouldn't that be much nicer than listening to another 200 some odd years of bickering on such a small thing as skin color and social class? 1

The Syndicate 09-03-03 10:21 AM

canibus isn't a nerd he jus tapped in the head..........................he's a lyrical genius n has the flow to match..............fuk it he is a nerd most of tha time

MR. LEGEND 09-03-03 11:41 AM

Out of the paragraphs of shit I spit on here, the only thing yall hear is that we think yall owe us something? I bet yall got an F in reading comprehension, huh. Matter of fact you probably didn't even read it. I explained WHY, things are the way they are. And you hit me back with some stop crying shit.

We got a right to be hostile, my people've persecuted. Black folks prejudice? C'mon, what the fuck is that keeping you from doing. Ohhhhh, you can't go in the ghetto, why the fuck would you want to go to the ghetto? I might step in your lilly white suburb, and the POLICE, will fuck with me and throw me in the clink.
The difference is, you happen to have the same kind of face that the police have, you have the same face of the man that rejected the loan and skipped over me for my promotion twice. Why wouldn't have an attitude for that shit? I go to your hood, and get fucked up for my skin color.
Owe? C'mon get real, if I had a nickle for everytime we take a loss TODAY, I would be rich beyond belief!
Everytime they pull me over, cause I GOTTA BE SLANGIN, cause my car is better than theirs.
I used to hoop in the burbs, and the white people would be pissed, and yell racial slurrs at me, and I didn't do anything. They eventually took the hoop down cause it was "looking bad".
I'm talking about TODAYS infractions, such as the one up above.I'm talkin about the 42 bullets fired into an unarmed man. I'm talking about thousands of police brutalities, and harrassments.

See it's impossible for you to even get a inkling of an ideal of wtf I'm talking about. That's why you blow it off like "it ain't that bad, and get over". If somebody smacks you in your face, and leaves a handprint on your face, can you just "get over it". No, you want to do, or something done about it. I didn't get smacked, my face isn't swolen, and marked, so htf can I tell you to get over when I'm not the one feelin it.

I love this hip-hop thing, it's helping us take over. Every where you look it's hip hop. Clothing, slang, dance, and music has infiltrated everything, and I'm cool with anybody down with it. Gangster rap nerd rap, rock/rap, it's AG wit me. It's plain amusing to see somebody name "Muhthugga", to tell me "go pick some cotton".

Let me let you in on a little secret, your own kind is prejudice against you for being hip hop. They call it acting black....

Otherwordz 09-03-03 07:48 PM

^^^for ya info...I ain't a white boy...I'm a mix between Puerto Rican,Filipino and white so you can't tell me shit about persecution...one time my mom'z white aunt told her husband to shoot my father with a shotgun...why?????? because he ain't white...and I was raised in Crown Heights BK so you can't tell me shit about my "lilly white suburb"...I been in every angle possible...from being called a Spic, a cracker,and a chink...in other wordz...you can't tell me shit about ya persecution...save ya whining for someone who carez...

self 09-04-03 10:09 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by MR. LEGEND
TO DUMBFuck BRUKLOR & DUMBFUCK MuhThugga

You fuckin wannabe stupid asses. WTF do you know about this shit huh. Nothin. WE that's right BLACK people MADE this shit OK. SO WTF you mean bring my race down some more. WHAT KIND OF BULLSHIT IS WHEN MY CULTURE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS SITE YOUR ON!!! WHOSE RACE IS TRYING TO BE LIKE WHOSE? SO HOW THE FUCK AM I BRINGING MY RACE DOWN? BECAUSE I LIKE FREE AND SOULFUL HIP-HOP, BECAUSE I WANNA CELEBRATE MY CULTURE, BY DANCING, SINGING LYRICS TOGETHER WITH MY FRIENDS.

WTF huh, YOU KNOW WHY YOU THINK GANGSTA RAP IS "BELOW" YOU? CAUSE YOU ARE UNCONSCIOUS TO THE REAL WORLD YOU DUMMIES. AS LONG AS THERE ARE GHETTOS, THERE WILL BE GANGSTA RAP. PEOPLE LIKE TO HEAR MUSIC THEY CAN RELATE TO STUPID. AS LONG AS WE CAN'T FIND JOBS, WE'LL SELL DOPE. AS LONG AS THEIR ARE PEOPLE TRYING TO STOP THEM FROM FEEDING THEIR KIDS, THERE WILL BE VIOLENCE. AS LONG AS THERE IS VIOLENCE THERE WILL BE WAR STORIES...

AS FAR AS BRINGING MY RACE DOWN, HUH LOL I DON'T THINK SO, CAUSE FOR EVERY 50 CENT, THERES A HUNDRED BURNT OUT TRASHY METAL HEADS. you see WE ain't down for that shit huh

huh, sorry, I just can't stand ignorance, tread carefully children, don't disrepect the God and he won't disrespect you....


Muh ripped your shit a new gateway out, so I won't waste my time.

Mr. So Called Legend, if you can't stand ignorance you must be sitting down, beside yourself. Biatch.

MR. LEGEND 09-04-03 10:56 AM

^^^Stupid wannabe ass^^^

lol, that was cute though....

self 09-04-03 11:02 AM

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Originally posted by DEL the funkee
if bruklor and muhthugga dont like canibus they have that right, its as simple as that.

bringing in all this other shit is just ignorant.

so shut the hell up with your preaching shit.


Thank you for putting that ("they have that right, its as simple as that"), your very right. But you are somewhat wrong, lol, well only because of your statement "if bruklor and muhthugga dont like canibus"... I don't not like Cani, its just that I don't listen to him a lot or anything. I don't mind him, he's better than a lot of the shit out there.

:D

self 09-04-03 11:06 AM

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Originally posted by MR. LEGEND
^^^Stupid wannabe ass^^^

lol, that was cute though....


"Wannabe"? I'm a wannabe? What the fuck exactly is it I [i]want to be[/b]? ...Precisely, I am what I am, and what I am is who I want to be.

MR. LEGEND 09-04-03 11:15 AM

enjoy yourself whoever you are, just don't get into racial/political conversations,your comments make you sound 5 years old.

self 09-04-03 11:21 AM

Kid, when I was 5 years old I was still smarter than you. So go suck on a lightbulb, You need a clue.

MR. LEGEND 09-04-03 11:34 AM

Yeah, "suck on a light bulb", that was a good one. Of course you were smarter than me. Would you like to further my point?

self 09-04-03 12:34 PM

Sure. Here, your arguing with a guy that has the power to ban you.

MR. LEGEND 09-04-03 02:17 PM

Yall wonder why this site ain't pumpin like it's supposed too. STOP bannin people for bullshit. Shit If I can't be Mr. Legend, I'm not comin back. And I'm takin all my homies with me. I wonder how many times that shit happen? All because the mod had too much attitude, or pride. Ban me? You need to close this thread.

LOOK MAN, I don't Agree with you! AND I'm not gonna hold my tongue.

Not like I'm running around free postin in shit, spamin and the likes of some of the crazy ass shit people get away with that goes on around here.

self 09-04-03 02:22 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by MR. LEGEND
Yall wonder why this site ain't pumpin like it's supposed too. STOP bannin people for bullshit. Shit If I can't be Mr. Legend, I'm not comin back. And I'm takin all my homies with me. I wonder how many times that shit happen? All because the mod had too much attitude, or pride. Ban me? You need to close this thread.

LOOK MAN, I don't Agree with you! AND I'm not gonna hold my tongue.

Not like I'm running around free postin in shit, spamin and the likes of some of the crazy ass shit people get away with that goes on around here.


You fucking idiot. We don't go around banning people for personal reasons. I was mearly saying I could.

MR. LEGEND 09-04-03 03:13 PM

I am DONE with this thread, I don't care how many ignorant remarks you guys make...

I not gonna waste anymore time...

Split~Barz 09-04-03 03:16 PM

...What are yall arguing about anyway ?...

Sage 09-04-03 10:20 PM

I dont think anyone makes it very big mainstream for their lyrical talent. Eminem is probably one of the only emcees who is popular in mainstream music because of that. Hit singles are tracks with a catchy beat and hook that all the mindless people in the clubs can dance to.

Canibus is very ill,, not just his vocab when he spits is incredible, but his multi's and metaphors are unmatched by 99.9% of emcees underground or mainstream. Yeah there is always the occasional garbage track from Canibus, and his beats are not always the illest ( for the cat that said he'd only listen if bis did acapella, he actually does come with a sick beat once in a while ) , but as far as his lyrical ability and mic presence go he is talented as fuck.

About the "big" words,, people keep saying that he wouldn't use these words in everyday conversation... no fucking shit sherlock. Who besides a college professor would just speak like that on a normal day? That does not mean that he doesn't know the words and what they mean,, I seriously doubt that Canibus looks in a dictonary to get words for his rhymes, and if you've ever heard one of his true freestyles (not all the radio joints because most of them are just repeats or writtens to sound nice on the air) he still will randomly use that crazy ass vocabulary.

The topic of this thread is just gay. To ask if someone is a nerd because they use complex words while RHYMING is just ignorant. He does it to add the extra difficulty and show his skill extends beyond the bounds of one and two syllable words (something 50 Cent needs to work on a bit)

Otherwordz 09-05-03 05:44 AM

^^^I know cats in the game with better multiez and metaphorz than Canibus...but he is ill though...and his new cd...Rip the Jacker...almost every beat in the cd is hot in my opinion...go cop the album...

Otherwordz 09-05-03 05:52 AM

and notice Mr. Legend is not arguing with me...I think I sonned him...lol...I should be a lawyer :)


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