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Tonya~Montana 10-01-03 05:31 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by G. Wiz
I still stand by him bein a racist fuck who could talk...He told people in need what they wanted to hear.

Was he a good leader for Germany-Yes
Could he speak like none other-Yes

But I cant even take that into consideration when I look at the fact of him killing off Millions of absolute innocent people.

What kind of man can throw away a human life like gettin rid of the pennies you dont want in your pocket.

One of the greatest men to ever live..? No way

He was a genius, theres no getting around that..He was wicked smart. But his mind was cruel from the beggining..he knew exactly what he was doing..Which brings me to this point

Hitler needed people to believe in what he was doing, he needed them to know that what he was doing was the only way..So he proposed an idea about the annihilation of jews and etc... Claiming they were the reason for Germany's troubles.. And there were so many more people that werent jews and what not, that they went along with it...Then again..who wouldnt go along with a plan when its between life or death and/or poverty..As long as it wont be YOU.

The economic crisis going on in Germany was terrible...

Sighs* I could go on and on..But tis not worth it..

Bottom line

Hitler did what he had to do to try and gain control of the entire world.

That was his goal.

And in his quest for Godly powers, he commited some of the most inhumane crimes ever commited, which makes him far from great..More like a greedy racists selfish bastard that should burn in hell for eternity.


well put!!

nevergoin2die 10-08-03 10:53 PM

its amazing how people give Hitler credit, but if someone did the same thing to their race that Hitler did to Jews they would see him as a jerkoff and give him no respect whatsoever..stupid motherfuckers

Kost 10-09-03 04:58 AM

it comes down to this

hitler was gay

nuff said

Soul Theory 10-09-03 03:41 PM

what kinda moron would call hitler great . . . ?


kids . . .

e.coli 10-09-03 06:05 PM

HITLER WAS AND WILL ALWAYS BE REMEMBERED AS A FUCKIN BITCH

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holla at yo boi
~1~

jono_dah_mon 10-09-03 07:40 PM

yah, hitler was influencal and shit but he was a bad ass killed 6 million innocent jews, robbed them of their riches, raped them of their own land. Yah and i bet u guys had no idea who hitlers idol was.....it was Winston Churchill (prime minister of Great Briten during ww2), and really i don't understand hitlers hate crimes as he was 1/4 jew himself (his grandfather was jewish) zso that basically commiting hate crimes against your own race, he wanted a pure aryan race, so i guess in the end tahts why he killed himself lol, because he was a jew, he ruined Germanys Democracy, and their Econimy after the war their dollar was worth like 1 cent american. So really what i'm trying to say was hitler was a great leader but a fucking bastard, PLUS he didin't drink whats up with taht? lol, pz out ya'll sorry about talking so smart there, later JoNo

SkiP To My LoU 10-17-03 03:36 PM

^he just said it all

varentao 10-17-03 08:49 PM

F-u-c-k m-e J-e-b-u-s


He exploited a situation created by the victorious nations of WW1.

He stumbled through using his fiery rhetoric which aroused nationalism in many.

Which brings one back to the situation at the time. It was a time of confusion and lost minds.

The upper class of Germany played a massive part. Especially those who'd been in power. And still had substantial influence over the military and people in general.

The upper class didn't like democracy. It threatened their place in society. A single strong leader sounded good to them.

Hitler was a psychotic. With people around him who so wanted to believe. That they were able to bring him through situations he otherwise would've been stopped at.

He wasn't that clever. It was his simplicity. His sincerity. That appealed to 'the people'. And yes, it was all sincere. If he'd been more clever than he was, he probably would've failed.

He wasn't the greatest speaker of all time. His style of speaking just suited the time he was in.

There's so much more. But it basically comes down to (emphasis on basically..)..

If he hadn't been a psychotic. If he hadn't made so many elementary mistakes. If he hadn't let his ego and emotions get the better of him. The war could've been very very different. It's very likely it would've been.

Oh, and according to some, he was gay. Explains it all, dunt it?...:rolleyes:

Speek.E.Z. 10-17-03 11:31 PM

Alright Hitler Was A Genius With Just THe Wrong Intentions.. I Saw Many Videos Of Him Giving His Speechs... The Fucking Place Would Shut Up Im Talking About Huge Ass Stadiums.. You Could Drop A Pin And The Whole Place Would Hear It.. Now Thats Charisma.. Name Another Person Who Could Get People To Spy On Their Own Families.. Theres Alot Of Times Where People Would Rat Out Their Parents For Having Opposite Views Of The Fuhrer.. And I Don't Know Who Said It But If Hitler Didn't Open A 2nd Front He Would Of Won The War.. If Hitler Didn't Start Bombing London, And Kept On Bombing The Airplane Fields Hitler Would Of Won.. If Hitler Would Of Moved Onto The Retreating People And Not Let Them Return To England In THe Miracle Of Dunkirk There Would Of Been A Good Chance He Would Of Won.. Now Theres Tons Of Possibilites Thrown Around.. What Would Life Be Under Hitler.. It Was Very Possible Threat.. But To The Guy Who Knew Everything About Hitler.. I Would Like To See The Source Where You Cited Your Facts That More Japanese Died In American Camps.. I Think Thats A Load Of Bullshit At Its Finest.. Cuz Millions Of Jews Died..
So Basically What Im Getting At Is That Hitler Was A Charismatic Genius Who Knew The Fuck Was Going On And How People Thought...
Oh Ya How Many Of You Drive The Volkswagen (The Peoples Car) You Can Thank Hitler For That One ;)

Abstrakt 10-18-03 12:06 AM

hitler was a fuckin mastermind.. he made europe believe theres nobody else besides him they shud listen to...
he almost had da whole jew race wiped out..
only if he used his power towads sumtin positive

The Necromancer 10-18-03 01:28 AM

I don't know if I said it in this thread (too lazy to check) or maybe some place else. But I know I've said it. I said "If you're going to tell a racist or offensive joke you should at least make it funny."

Anyway, I made a funny offensive joke.

*ahem*

Y'know why the Nazi's had such a hard time rounding up all the Jews in Germany?

Because not everyone in Germany was a jew. Semite be, semite not be.

*Insert canned laughter here*

~Shalom~

saltheking 10-18-03 02:57 AM

wait...just cuz he had that effect(affect?) on germanys people...so that he could captivate millions...he was the greatest speaker of all time...there are...uhh "muscians"....that captivate audiences(think mainstream) similarLy....are they the greatest of our times?...

Speek.E.Z. 10-18-03 03:07 AM

^^ ya but do these people go out and do exactly what this person says probably not.. thats teh difference

saltheking 10-18-03 05:25 AM

...indeed...that is the difference...
but there are alot of differences...these guys are entertaining.... im saying put it into perspective...
10 million people cop an aLbum...does that make it the greatest?
...well it sure made alot of people think it was better than anything the undergrounf had to offer...

believing the majority...or at least giving up your own beliefs to follow someone without questioning them...

but i guess propaganda is everywhere...

as are opinions...

just because you cant neccasarily disprove something doesnt make it absolute...

eh w/e hitler sucks...

varentao 10-18-03 09:29 AM

Once again. It's all part of the equation.

Once you realise the basis of the equation. You realise he wasn't a genius. And he wasn't the greatest speaker of all time. His 'style' just fitted in with the times. And even then, he at times stumbled through.

If he was a genius. Or 'the greatest speaker of all time'. He'd most probably never have come into power. Or at least not had the effect he had.

Some people in this thread are quite ignorant. I don't usually say that. But tis true. Before you make all this 'enlightened' judgements and views on Hitler. Read into the situation a bit more. Try and understand the political enviroment at the time. And the people around him.

SkiP To My LoU 10-18-03 06:53 PM

^varentao i'm with yah man, u said it all, i studied hitler for liek 4 months, hes a really complexed guy, peace out bro keep it up

Speek.E.Z. 10-20-03 01:48 AM

yes i understand what your getting at, he was saying what the people wante to hear after they were made the "bitches" of WW1, the ppl were pissed and he was the voice of the people.. but no he wasnt the greatest speaker btu it does take some talent to make a whole stadium stand still as soon as you take the mic

SkiP To My LoU 10-20-03 03:05 PM

^^^^If he wasn't one of the best speakers ever, give a reason to support u answer, i don't liek him he was an evil man, but u must admit, who could make shit like that sound good?.......

Orikle 10-21-03 08:07 AM

Hitler Was A Fucking Genius..You Can Not Deny That..Politically A Fucken Mastermind..Whether His Opinions Were Obsurd Or Not...To Earn The Trust And Respect Of Millions Is Amazing..Yet On The Military Side He Was Good Definitely Yet..Ultimately Made One Of The Worst Decisions Of All Time In Leading Germany Through Russia In WW2..Lost Em The War...Amazing Man..Although A Fucken Cocksucking Moron..Amazing.

Orikle 10-21-03 08:09 AM

And By The Way He Was NOT The Greatest Speaker Of All Time By ANY MEANS WHATSOEVER..Winston Churchill Was The Most Superior Orator Of Our Times That Is Certain!..

Toner 10-21-03 08:15 AM

Why is this topic open for discussion.

That evil man was a mass murderer. He stood FOR racism, ignorance, hypocrcy. He was a sick sick fuck and any1 that disagrees is under educated, scum or plain fuckin stupid.

Orikle 10-21-03 08:36 AM

HAHAHA You're The Under Educated Fool That Doesn't Know The Beauty Of A Non-Bias Opinion..PhuQ Haha...Little Girl...

SkiP To My LoU 10-21-03 04:42 PM

hes evil but was a faithful leader, haha and i ebt ya'll didin't know winston churchill was his idol

RebelSoul 10-21-03 07:50 PM

Re: Adolf Hitler
 
Quote:
Originally posted by sal-v

Chrit, please leave this open. I'm doing this for a reason.

whats the reason????

varentao 10-21-03 07:54 PM

Churchill wasn't his idol. Though he did admire the British and their empire. And also to an extent, Churchill.

People need to stop calling him a genius. Based on the reasons they have given anyway. Maybe some of the stuff he did was ingenius, but he man himself wasn't.

AbOmInAtIoN 10-22-03 10:39 PM

Fuck hitler hes a fag....killing everyone cuz he dont like them...fuck him...and the funny thing was that he grew up in a jewish backround....stupid dult

AJ 10-27-03 07:32 AM

La, La, La.

Genius-Tactial Warfare, extremely smart with weapons systems and other types of warfare.

Idiot-Killing people and useinh his knowledge to hurt others.

It is that simple.


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