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%%%% 08-03-05 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Doomsday
A ghostwriter NEVER gets full credits for a song, it'll always say the performers name and then the ghosts name. It'sgotta say the ghosts name or else the ghost can't get paid since accounting woudl have no PUBLIC record that anyone else wrote the track (assuming they get paid on the books).

I was gonna break this down and the conenction, but look at it like this: Any solo track you see of an emcee and more than one name appears in the credits, it was either A: ghosted or B: co-written. At least half of Mic Club is written by two dudes, s. Priceman and B Hedvat. About another 45% are written by D.Zangger. Tracks dude has on Mic Club that he wrote alone?

Zero.

Last album bis wrote at least 50% of by himself was C: True Hollywood Stories.



DIdn't he write Rip the Jacker himself?He said in endless interviews that he wrote it on his stained kitchen table or sumtin like dat.

And every single rapper has somebody co-writting for them.How else they gon put out an album every yr like that.And the co-writter could be someone who just gave feedback or something.Ya neva know.Doesn't mean they made 50% of the song just cause they got they name next to the artist.

This shit is bogus....i don't believe this article.

∆ P E X X 08-03-05 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Pressence
outta curiousity....does anyone still feel like writing anymore?



yeah. why wouldn't I?

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Originally Posted by gotaasswhoopin4u
Also, why the fuck won't this herb say his name??? Cuz he has no fucking name. ahaha, he signed to Raping-U Records and they passed his shit to another no name homo who the label thought would sell records. Clown.



how you know he ain't say his name? I'm sure you could get in touch with the ddue who made the original post which is what I asked about earlier.

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Originally Posted by Speats
this my man just fucked RV for sure


lol, hell no.

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Originally Posted by KOOL COL-B
ay dooms, start writting muthaphukka, theres people waitin on my album so i need all tha shit written soon. :cool: werd


Sir, yes Sir!! :thinks about what he's gonna buy with the 100,000 I mentioned in another post:
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Originally Posted by Pressence
well ......ask black majic....he made this thread....ask him where he got this and shit...
I wanna know too

And WHY HASN'T THIS BEEN IN THE PAPERS OR NEWS!!!!



it is. Name one singer you know in ANY industry of thta dosent' have "writers" and hell, The biggest pop star of our generation - Brittany Spears is wELL KNOWN for doctored vocals. Her image is built by "image consultants" and her convos and interviews are molded by PR reps.

Why you think rap is any different?

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Originally Posted by Pressence
according to this,this been goin on a while now.....And out of all the years.....don't you think at least one rapper or ghostwriter would tell the truth about how he got signed and this bullshit?
OR......they all good at keepin secrets somehow :rolleyes:



what the hell you talking about? lol LOTS of ghosts have come out and started their own careers and none of em get put on. Fat Joe's ghost jsut dropped an album - where's he now? This aint new news. Youre just now hearing about it, lol.

∆ P E X X 08-03-05 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Pressence
DIdn't he write Rip the Jacker himself?He said in endless interviews that he wrote it on his stained kitchen table or sumtin like dat.

And every single rapper has somebody co-writting for them.How else they gon put out an album every yr like that.And the co-writter could be someone who just gave feedback or something.Ya neva know.Doesn't mean they made 50% of the song just cause they got they name next to the artist.

This shit is bogus....i don't believe this article.



You don't believe it because you don't want to believe it. PS, someone who says "yeah son, you should be like POW right there" don't get co-writers credits since co-writers credits get CHECKS. And liek I said, ghosts get co-writers credits since co-writers credits legally also include the performer who may not have wrote jack shit.



And yeah, bis wrote RTJ. You make it sound liek i said he can't write, lol.

La Cosa Nostra 08-03-05 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by BLACK~MAGIK
I got this from another site, and it is really terrifying, and pissing me off...It's long as hell, but more than worth the read...Please take 10-20 minutes to read all the way thru.

Fu-k what you've heard about the industry to now, fu-k all major record labels and fu-k all major recording artists as well, fu-k Nas, Jay, Em, Nelly, Chingy, Jermaine Dupri, Dr. Dre, Russell Simmons, The ROC, All Of Shady, Desert Storm, R. Kelly, Fabolous, Joe Budden, all mainstream rappers I haven't mentioned. Let me tell you the real industry............ etc etc etc


Ooh yeah baby it feels good to be in Australia.
The lable I want to sign to is called Obese Records, its run by underground heads but its got the power to go mainstream in Australia. Instead of being shot down by this information. People should be looking at new attack plans. Make the industry work for you, dont work for them.

I'ma keep doing my thing till 2012........;)

%%%% 08-03-05 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Doomsday
yeah. why wouldn't I?

how you know he ain't say his name? I'm sure you could get in touch with the ddue who made the original post which is what I asked about earlier.

lol, hell no.

Sir, yes Sir!! :thinks about what he's gonna buy with the 100,000 I mentioned in another post:

it is. Name one singer you know in ANY industry of thta dosent' have "writers" and hell, The biggest pop star of our generation - Brittany Spears is wELL KNOWN for doctored vocals. Her image is built by "image consultants" and her convos and interviews are molded by PR reps.

Why you think rap is any different?

what the hell you talking about? lol LOTS of ghosts have come out and started their own careers and none of em get put on. Fat Joe's ghost jsut dropped an album - where's he now? This aint new news. Youre just now hearing about it, lol.



Well now thinking about it...I don't believe this thing anymore and will keep writing.

and i ain't just talking about ghostwriters...i'm talking about this whole cycle bullshit........about this Rapper A,Rapper B,Rapper C.,...etc.
why is it all of us here are now hearing about it.It's big enough to get some publisitity and all.And...you shouldn't fall into this whole conspiracy shit....there have been many stories like this.KInda like how people say Babe Ruth corked his bat,how some world series games were set-up,how Owen hart's death was a planed act by Vince Mchmahon to get back at Bret,and area 51.

The list off conspiracy stories go on and on and on.I don't believe this bullshit.

Just cause it's well-written?Please...if I well-wrote something about seeing aliens or ghosts...would you believe it?

C'mon...don't be so gullible.
If it was true..we woulda heard about it long time ago.Wat?Everyone good at keepin secrets once they get signed?

∆ P E X X 08-03-05 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Pressence
Well now thinking about it...I don't believe this thing anymore and will keep writing.

and i ain't just talking about ghostwriters...i'm talking about this whole cycle bullshit........about this Rapper A,Rapper B,Rapper C.,...etc.
why is it all of us here are now hearing about it.It's big enough to get some publisitity and all.And...you shouldn't fall into this whole conspiracy shit....there have been many stories like this.KInda like how people say Babe Ruth corked his bat,how some world series games were set-up,how Owen hart's death was a planed act by Vince Mchmahon to get back at Bret.

The list off conspiracy stories go on and on and on.I don't believe this bullshit.

Just cause it's well-written?Please...if I well-wrote something about seeing aliens or ghosts...would you believe it?

C'mon...don't be so gullible.



I ain't talkign no "conspiracies" and any other shit you're talking about. Im talkign abotu this. this info has been pulbic for decdes. It's called "writers credits". Reading is fundamental. and why you iant' heard of it? lol, you niggas are fuckin teenagers who rap on a website man. How many of yall ever spoke to an A/R or a record exec or ANYONE that works for a label that wasnt' run out of a basement and actualyl had you sit down at a table with a contract written. This shit is VERY real man. You jsut go no life experience or experience in the music biz AT ALL so you're all shocked and dissillusioned on the ground in th fetal position with your hands over your ears, lol.

%%%% 08-03-05 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Doomsday
I ain't talkign no "conspiracies" and any other shit you're talking about. Im talkign abotu this. this info has been pulbic for decdes. It's called "writers credits". Reading is fundamental. and why you iant' heard of it? lol, you niggas are fuckin teenagers who rap on a website man. How many of yall ever spoke to an A/R or a record exec or ANYONE that works for a label that wasnt' run out of a basement and actualyl had you sit down at a table with a contract written. This shit is VERY real man. You jsut go no life experience or experience in the music biz AT ALL so you're all shocked and dissillusioned on the ground in th fetal position with your hands over your ears, lol.



OK....but now I'm thinking about this thing more.

If it is true...it really ain't that bad....faith evans,mariah carey,and BAbyface got in the industry through ghostwriting.SO i guess...if you look at it this way...it ain't that bad.Just cause you ghostwrite for someone doesn't mean you can't be a star.There may be record labels who may look to sign a ghostwriter.WHoever wrote this had negativity all over it.

I guess this thing could be real....but if it is...it ain't all that bad.


ooh and if this has been here for decades....why you the only one who know bout it here?I ain't the only teen here.

.Ike. 08-03-05 11:44 PM

i dont really care to be honest...i dont like it...but its not gonna stop me from rappin lol...its not like ima read this article and be like "damn im never gonna rap again".....its not gonna change for anybody no matter how the industry works...so either quit because this is probably true...or keep going and try to be either rapper A-Z

∆ P E X X 08-03-05 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Pressence
OK....but now I'm thinking about this thing more.

If it is true...it really ain't that bad....faith evans,mariah carey,and BAbyface got in the industry through ghostwriting.SO i guess...if you look at it this way...it ain't that bad.Just cause you ghostwrite for someone doesn't mean you can't be a star.There may be record labels who may look to sign a ghostwriter.WHoever wrote this had negativity all over it.

I guess this thing could be real....but if it is...it ain't all that bad.


ooh and if this has been here for decades....why you the only one who know bout it here?I ain't the only teen here.



You make it sound like everyone here checked in on it. Anyone who can read will see that the artist ain't the only one who wrote their tracks. It tells you right on the CD cover.

%%%% 08-04-05 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Doomsday
You make it sound like everyone here checked in on it. Anyone who can read will see that the artist ain't the only one who wrote their tracks. It tells you right on the CD cover.



Yeah.....but it doesn't say how much the co-writer made....did he make 50%...90%...10%....5%?....we don't know and neither do you....

Cocaine 08-04-05 12:08 AM

i pretty much knew this anyway?? i thought it was known that mainstream artists had ghostwriters :huh: this doesnt surprise me at all..

La Cosa Nostra 08-04-05 12:24 AM

Yeah, this shit was posted in 2003 apparently.

I think I'ma take it off sticky...

∆ P E X X 08-04-05 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Pressence
Yeah.....but it doesn't say how much the co-writer made....did he make 50%...90%...10%....5%?....we don't know and neither do you....



absolutely right, but I do know someone else had a hand in writing it. I know they didn't write it all them selves - which is exactly what this topic is about.

Macreep 08-04-05 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Doomsday
absolutely right, but I do know someone else had a hand in writing it. I know they didn't write it all them selves - which is exactly what this topic is about.



yo....a ghostwriter is someone who doesn't get credit...they stay in the dark.
The person you are talking about is someone called a co-writer...not ghost.

Ghostwriters are not known by anyone......hence..."ghost"

and this topic states talks about ghostwriters...not co-writer.

The topic says that Rapper B writes songs while gettin NO CREDIT.None.zero.Nada.......you mixing them up now.

...Voke... 08-04-05 12:42 AM

whoooooooooo, its a gift to write....thank god


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