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Dirty Nigga 03-07-06 07:15 PM

Yeah.........

Check Larrys sig, tell me he's not sterotypin like a motherfucker right there.

Adam 03-07-06 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ...Indeph
Yeah, but if I let people do that to me then they'll do it to other people. I just want fuckin respect, it isnt that hard of a request. People know race is a touchy subject because of history AND present. Instead of respecting the line that they can't cross, faggots wanna push the line and say somethings wrong with ME. Everytime someone makes a thread saying why do black ppl say white kids cant wear hip hop clothes, do you see me coming in saying "well white ppl are racist too". NO, you see me defending the right to have your own identity. I swear, people know damn well the shit white power stands for. Everytime someone says it people die and get hung or jumped or shit like that. Everyone here KNOWS its true, but they're too damn proud to admit it. Who are the black power ppl on this site? Me and socrates right? We're also the ones who make threads for our own race's faults. I never seen a white person do that shit.


I'm not for White Power, I'm not for any power. I think it's all just fuckin' retarded.

And in all honesty, if you wan't the word to dissapear, you gotta start but taking it out of your vocabulary as well.

Most people hear the word in rap songs and don't know the historical significance behind it. Thing is they've allready heard it enough and it's influenced them to say it, and once they realize what the word means and they see a black person they don't like, they'll use it.. Shit happens, people don't think. Not saying it's the right thing to do, but it happens..

If black people are so concerned about being called the "n" word, they gotta quit sporting it themselves. Do you ever hear a white person use the word in songs? Unless they're a fuckin' no name piece of shit that nobody will hear anyways..

Like even saying black and white people is fuckin' retarded, but it was basically impossible to not say them in this post..

Morgan Freeman put it best..

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Morgan Freeman says the concept of a month dedicated to black history is "ridiculous."

"You're going to relegate my history to a month?" the 68-year-old actor says in an interview on CBS' "60 Minutes" to air Sunday (7 p.m. EST). "I don't want a black history month. Black history is American history."

Black History Month has roots in historian Carter G. Woodson's Negro History Week, which he designated in 1926 as the second week in February to mark the birthdays of Frederick Douglass and Abraham Lincoln.

Woodson said he hoped the week could one day be eliminated — when black history would become fundamental to American history.

Freeman notes there is no "white history month," and says the only way to get rid of racism is to "stop talking about it."

The actor says he believes the labels "black" and "white" are an obstacle to beating racism.

"I am going to stop calling you a white man and I'm going to ask you to stop calling me a black man," Freeman says.

Crazy Hades 03-07-06 07:26 PM

Indeph, I know I've made at least one comment against white people...hell man, don't call me racist. - shoot. - You're like the coolest girl I know.

∆ P E X X 03-07-06 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Martyr
White is why that people can't live in certain areas. White is why that people get jumped daily when walking through a certain neighborhood. White is why people can't rap or wear certain clothes because they are deemed wanna bes.



Not being able to walk in the pit of the hood and not being able to wear a du-rag and hang your jeans off your ass without getting laughed at is "suffering"?

What's being beat up by 4 white guys you never met, seen, or spoke to in your entire life only because your skin has more melanin than theirs - WHILE you were walking home from school? What do you call that?

Oh yeah, if you think this is some remote refference to some obscure event it isn't, this is something that happened to me personally which is why I'm using it as an example.

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Originally Posted by ...Indeph
I don't see black people bringing up shit white people do that's racist in threads about 'why cant white ppl rap' and shit. I noticed that alot of times (not now) when some white people feel guilty about the shit thats going on nowadays racially they go on defence instead of... fixing the problem. Like they'll much rather think of reasons to feel comfortable about what's going then actually get rid of it. It's kind of annoying.


http://community.rapverse.com/showt...7633&highlight=

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Originally Posted by JTR
On the real, it's not happening to you right now, so who gives a fuck. Shut it, you guys get hyped up over shit that happened years ago to people you prolly never knew. Man, they coulda tortured my ancestors, i'll be like, uh, that sucks? =\. It's not that big of a deal ANYMORE.


who said anything about ancesters? I'm asking about white power movemets that are around TODAY. but while you mentioned that, why do you think that when times of racism are mentioned that its not today, do you believe that segregation isn't alive and thirving in the town right next door to me?

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Originally Posted by Martyr
Rev: I can't wait to go to the Open mic and try my hand at performing

Black people: The fuck you doing here whitey? Get the fuck out.

Ya, it doesn't need to be a law, because they take the law into their own hands. I would like you to stand up alone to 100+ white people saying you can't do something. My 'feelings' weren't hurt, mainly cuz I don't have feelings anymore, my point is that so many black people make it appear that they suffer and no one else does. This doesn't apply to Apexx necessarily.

Please tell me how much you suffer from segregation now or have in the past. You all say we suffered! Ya, how many of you have suffered? Sure your race has, every race has, but have you?


Have I suffered from segregation? ABSOLUTELY!! "Segregation" is a term for an era in the 60's. The spirit and principals of segregation are still alive and well today man. It's completely invisible to you because you'll never in our life be affected by it. I've gone into countless places where it was made pretty evident that I wasn't wanted, needed, invited, or appreciated, and this isn't exactly the 1960's. I was the only black kid in my entire school in 5th grade, and, those around me made it pretty evident, I'll just leave it at that, since I don't care to discuss it.


P.S. if anyone really and honestly feel that being called a nigger is the same as being called an asshole, wow. That's all I can say. Wow. You really need to get out of your house and see things.

High-Dro 03-07-06 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Crazy Hades
Starting with me, beating all of you.

well, i'll beat OFF on all of you!!

Sean Gunner 03-07-06 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Apexx
Not being able to walk in the pit of the hood and not being able to wear a du-rag and hang your jeans off your ass without getting laughed at is "suffering"?

What's being beat up by 4 white guys you never met, seen, or spoke to in your entire life only because your skin has more melanin than theirs - WHILE you were walking home from school? What do you call that?

Oh yeah, if you think this is some remote refference to some obscure event it isn't, this is something that happened to me personally which is why I'm using it as an example.



http://community.rapverse.com/showt...7633&highlight=



who said anything about ancesters? I'm asking about white power movemets that are around TODAY. but while you mentioned that, why do you think that when times of racism are mentioned that its not today, do you believe that segregation isn't alive and thirving in the town right next door to me?



Have I suffered from segregation? ABSOLUTELY!! "Segregation" is a term for an era in the 60's. The spirit and principals of segregation are still alive and well today man. It's completely invisible to you because you'll never in our life be affected by it. I've gone into countless places where it was made pretty evident that I wasn't wanted, needed, invited, or appreciated, and this isn't exactly the 1960's. I was the only black kid in my entire school in 5th grade, and, those around me made it pretty evident, I'll just leave it at that, since I don't care to discuss it.


P.S. if anyone really and honestly feel that being called a nigger is the same as being called an asshole, wow. That's all I can say. Wow. You really need to get out of your house and see things.


I believe I gave an example of how I wasn't wanted in an enviroment.

TeamOne 03-07-06 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by JTR
^^ along with 20 other people in this thread, stupid.


well yea, it was pretty obvious, but fuck u..........

∆ P E X X 03-07-06 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Martyr
I believe I gave an example of how I wasn't wanted in an enviroment.


Not being wanted by someone making fun of you (big deal) vs. someone seeking to cause intense physical harm to you is, simply incomparable. BUT you didn't answer the question, so here it is again:


Not being able to walk in the pit of the hood and not being able to wear a du-rag and hang your jeans off your ass without getting laughed at is "suffering"?

What's being beat up by 4 white guys you never met, seen, or spoke to in your entire life only because your skin has more melanin than theirs - WHILE you were walking home from school? What do you call that?

Oh yeah, if you think this is some remote refference to some obscure event it isn't, this is something that happened to me personally which is why I'm using it as an example.

Sean Gunner 03-07-06 09:21 PM

I call getting jumped in the hood by dudes you don't know because your skin is lighter than theirs suffering, yes. Also, just for reference, I don't wear durags or have my jeans hanging off my ass. I think that no matter where you go, you will suffer. People will be prejudice, and people will judge you.

La Cosa Nostra 03-07-06 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Apexx
Ever notice that all white power movements, skinheads, the kkk, the nazi party etc, none of them involve raising white people, it involves LOWERING other races, ever noticed that?

The term "black power" means something entirely different to "white power". Black power means empowerment of blacks to be treated and viewed as equal to everyone else. White power means "down with everything that isn't white".

Why is that?

White power movements were origionally created in the 1800's back when carpet baggers were going through into white peoples homes robbing and killing them and then getting off easy because they were previous slaves..

So when they origionated, they were basically a nessecary movement...

Today that is no longer the case.. And you have a situation where a bunch of hicks and rednecks wanna keep it alive with messages of hate and neo-nazi philosophys...

I think you'll also find a big difference in the fact that most white people dont support white power movements whereas most black people do support black power movements. So dont put judgements on the white race based on what a small minority of our people do.

I think the reason why we dont feel the need to have a movement to rise up as a people is simply because we are not a minority... We dont have a chip on our shoulder and if you didnt already notice... A lot of the time... Our people run the shit....

So we dont need to hold little meetings where we babble on about what we 'need to do' as a people and where we rant and rave about being mistreated by society...

Nah mean bruz?

∆ P E X X 03-07-06 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Martyr
I call getting jumped in the hood by dudes you don't know because your skin is lighter than theirs suffering, yes. Also, just for reference, I don't wear durags or have my jeans hanging off my ass. I think that no matter where you go, you will suffer. People will be prejudice, and people will judge you.


Son, you COULD get jumped because you chose to go to the pit of the hood. But wait..I actually DID get jumped by 4 dudes. Did you get jumped going to the pit of the hood? NOPE!! That's a huge difference in realities, between living and experiencing and feeling it, vs theorizing about it.

Add to that, rasicm found ME, about 200 yards from my home, which is a pretty upscale neighborhood. The thugs and the countless amount of people going about their business in the hood have a lot more priorities for them selves than going looking for a white guy to beat up. Here's a huge newsflash to those that have never lived in a hood..as in "people die there all the time" straight hood..there are LOTS of white people that live in the hood. There's no hatred there, because black or white, we're both in this exact same shithole, so your life can't be much different than mine. Matter fact, I wanna see how YOU ended up here! What's up, my name is...

And that's what life is like in the hood. You buy into the exhagerated narrow lens you see on tv too much.


:Waiting for the mob of herbs that'll come and say they're hardcore and lived in the hood and shit, man shut the hell up:

locknes 03-07-06 10:13 PM

I just think that white people need to know the role and not say shit
whens the last time a black person has come up to u and called u a cracker never
i allways see white kids as they drive by there car when i'm walkin sayin some racist shit

∆ P E X X 03-07-06 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Nostradamus
White power movements were origionally created in the 1800's back when carpet baggers were going through into white peoples homes robbing and killing them and then getting off easy because they were previous slaves..

So when they origionated, they were basically a nessecary movement...

Today that is no longer the case.. And you have a situation where a bunch of hicks and rednecks wanna keep it alive with messages of hate and neo-nazi philosophys...

I think you'll also find a big difference in the fact that most white people dont support white power movements whereas most black people do support black power movements. So dont put judgements on the white race based on what a small minority of our people do.

I think the reason why we dont feel the need to have a movement to rise up as a people is simply because we are not a minority... We dont have a chip on our shoulder and if you didnt already notice... A lot of the time... Our people run the shit....

So we dont need to hold little meetings where we babble on about what we 'need to do' as a people and where we rant and rave about being mistreated by society...

Nah mean bruz?


Yeah...I know exactly what you're saying but I just don't agree with one single point you made as the result of anything. Like...your perspective to me, though I respect it all the same, just seems completely detached from any of the realities from experiences in my life personally. It's like it's not attached to anything that actually works the way that you see that it does, so it's hard to consider what you're saying. But that's my personal perspective. Peace.

Valerie 03-07-06 10:26 PM

fuck the kkk they deserve to be shot dead.

La Cosa Nostra 03-07-06 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Apexx
Yeah...I know exactly what you're saying but I just don't agree with one single point you made as the result of anything. Like...your perspective to me, though I respect it all the same, just seems completely detached from any of the realities from experiences in my life personally. It's like it's not attached to anything that actually works the way that you see that it does, so it's hard to consider what you're saying. But that's my personal perspective. Peace.

You dont agree with any of the points I made? Well lets go through them one by one...

The first point was about the carpet baggers. Which is historically correct.. The carpet baggers were gangs of previous black slaves that would break into white peoples homes rob them and kill them and they often got away with murder scott free.. The origional white power movement was there to recognise the fact that the law was doing absolutly nothing to stop black people from retaliating and killing off large amounts of our race and it was set in place not as a symbol of hate. But a symbol of protection of the white race that most rational people would say was not only inevidible.. But nessecary..

So that was point 1. And I dont see how you could dissagree with that being that it is nothing more than historical fact..

Point two was about how now a days its mainly shit for brains rednecks and hicks that are keeping it alive with hate and loathing of races that come into white populated countries... Dunno how you could dissagree with that.. The only difference is sometimes skinheads will turn that way in jail simply because they need someone to run with for protection...

Point 3........well.. Are you really gonna dissagree with the fact that most white people dont support white power movements? I mean cmon man.. I dont think I even needa go into more detail on that one...

Point 4.... Well I can see how you might dissagree with this due to the fact it might annoy you.. But its more or less usually the case.. We are the majority therefore what have we got to fight for? Most of our struggles arnt with society.. Most of our struggles are with our lack of unity on a street level which is a personal thing... But this doesent mean we all of a sudden needa go out and start big ass movements and have conventions where we rant and rave about what we wanna change... Why should we? We are the majority..I dont mean to piss you off.. But most powerful men in our countries are white... Black people own shit like fashion and pop culture a lot of the time.. But we are essentually the driving force behind our countries... Thats not an opinion, thats fact... Sorry if I'm sounding racist.. Cause I'm far from it.. But I do have a sense of pride for my people... There are a lot of things technologically, philosophically and scientifically especially that white people have brought to the world for the betterment of man kind. We have a right to be proud..

Which brings me to my next point... For black people it is compleatly beneficial to hold meetings where you guys talk about the betterment of your people. Thats your thing and it is a big reason why you guys are so powerful these days in pop culture and shit.. Cause you have a real sense of unity and pulling together during hard times... I really do respect that.. I jus dont think we as white people really need it..

And I dont really see how my points are that invalid or out of touch with reality... Sure society is full of dumb cunts and my views arnt wide spread.. But thats because a lot of people fail to look at the world from an outside perspective... They dont look at all the evidence.. They just see whats in their own lives and base their opinions on live for the moment decisions...

*shrugs*


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