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Tha Q. 03-13-06 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by L. Veracity
oh by the way, Darwin denounced his theories before he died, so all that shit they teach you in school about evolution, he didn't even believe his damn self later on in his life ROFLMAO



This is a misperception...Darwin couldn't have renounced his "theories" because Evolution is not a theory. What you don't understand is this. Evolution can be broken down on a MACRO and MICRO level. Evolution DEFINITELY occurs on a MICRO level. That's proven without doubt. That simply means things change over time. THAT'S 100% true. The argument stems from whether or not MACRO evolution occurred. That is the theory that all life stemmed from a primordial soup that formed in a pond eons ago.
That's the conflict. Darwin is the father of modern biology. Don't fool yourself. Evolution occurs.period. It can EASILY be proven in laboratory experiments on a MICRO level.

L. Veracity 03-13-06 04:32 PM

yeah yeah I understand that evolution occurs, we change when our environment changes, we adapt or evolve...but that's now how everything STARTED though...which is what people that "believe in evolution" believe...that there is no GOD that created all...we just evolved from monkeys and what-not...

Dirty Nigga 03-13-06 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by L. Veracity
yeah yeah I understand that evolution occurs, we change when our environment changes, we adapt or evolve...but that's now how everything STARTED though...which is what people that "believe in evolution" believe...that there is no GOD that created all...we just evolved from monkeys and what-not...

We did.

and to think one man created this world is 'LUDACRIS' :thumbup:

~Lady Fiya~ 03-13-06 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Tha Q.
no no no...You may not be gay. You may not curse. You may not have anger issues. But, you deal with something. So, my point is, don't point on ONE sin just because you don't have to deal with it. Compose used the issue of being gay as a cheap shot. And, let's not split hairs here. "showing they were gay" means having gay sex or attempting to do so. In Jewish custom, it was against the law for men to dress like women and vice versa. That doesn't mean they were "gay" if they did so. Dressing up like a woman when you're a man isn't acting "gay." So, your statement is somewhat ambiguous. As someone who's had to deal with homosexuality, I know that it's my struggle to stay focused. For someone else, it may be fornicating, or lying, or pride, or being judgmental. Whatever your vice is, it needs to be yielded to God. I'm just calling Compose on his cheap attempt at a cheap shot. COMPOSE, Lady Fiya, Q, and everyone else in this thread is a sinner.


period.


Of course everyone is a sinner (no one is perfect), but I'm not attacking you with the Bible. And as far as whatever my "struggle" is, it's already yielded to God. I'm far from doing it or anything similar. People don't live with their sins unless 1) they choose to or 2) they don't know that it's wrong. You don't have to live your life under a sin. And I will sin in the future I'm sure of that because I'm not perfect. But all I can do is try my best to stray from anything that can be considered a sin in God's eyes which I "think" that is close to what you are saying.

L. Veracity 03-13-06 04:37 PM

well that's what you believe, and you're human so you're entitled to that belief no matter how cockamayme (sp) I think it is :)

but GOD isn't a "man" it's more of an omnipresent being...but hey, who knows...people that DO believe in GOD argue about that and about what "race" Jesus looked like the most etc.

we're human, we'll never all agree on anything...THE END

.Judicial. 03-13-06 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Carmelo
We did.

and to think one man created this world is 'LUDACRIS' :thumbup:



GOD is more than a man...."All powerfull and All knowing" he can do what ever he wants, anything you can think of, being appropriate of course lol....

Dirty Nigga 03-13-06 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by L. Veracity
well that's what you believe, and you're human so you're entitled to that belief :)

but GOD isn't a "man" it's more of an omnipresent being...but hey, who knows...people that DO believe in GOD argue about that and about what "race" Jesus looked like the most etc.

we're human, we'll never all agree on anything...THE END

You have a point...

if people wanna base their lives on believing in an imagenary friend, thats their choice.

Tha Q. 03-13-06 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by L. Veracity
yeah yeah I understand that evolution occurs, we change when our environment changes, we adapt or evolve...but that's now how everything STARTED though...which is what people that "believe in evolution" believe...that there is no GOD that created all...we just evolved from monkeys and what-not...



No...evolutionists don't believe we evolved from MOnkies...Their theory is that humans ARE apes, not that we evolved from monkies. Monkies and apes are different. Lemme break it down:

Their conjecture is this:

Modern humans and Chimps had ONE COMMON ancestor. Call that "animal a".

The theory is that some geological catastrophe drastically changed the environment in which ANIMAL A lived, causing a rift between some ANIMAL As on one side, while some ANIMAL As were on the other side. The belief is that a volcanic-type disaster created two dratically different landscapes. On one side, the land was barren and empty. On the other side, trees remained. Evolutionists believe that the ANIMAL As on the side with the trees evolved into Chimps, while the ANIMAL As on the barren side evolved into people.

^^It's more complex than that. But, that's the theory in a nutshell.
ANIMAL "A"

Dirty Nigga 03-13-06 04:40 PM

....I aint trynna offend anyone right now.

L. Veracity 03-13-06 04:41 PM

well yippie for the people that believe your "animal A" theorum

however "I" do not :)

P.S. I'll be back later, gotta wash dishes

Dirty Nigga 03-13-06 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by L. Veracity
well yippie for the people that believe your "animal A" theorum

however "I" do not :)

P.S. I'll be back later, gotta wash dishes

''gotta wash dishes''

*Holds back from typing any sexually discrimating remarks*

Crazy Hades 03-13-06 05:20 PM

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oh by the way, Darwin denounced his theories before he died

so all that shit they teach you in school about evolution

he didn't even believe his dang self later on in his life ROFLMAO



As I recall, Darwin's sister was the only person present when he died and it's her word that he actually denounced his thoughts...even if he had, it was probably because he was trying to repent because the fear of even the slim possibilty of hell existing would lead him to eternal suffering. But, denouncing all of that would leave him in a position to have a better chance at reaching paradise, and if he didn't...well, so what? He would be dead, and the path of the world would not matter to him in the slightest because he'd cease to exist. Simply put, he was a fearful man --- which is most likely, though this is obviously speculation ---, his sister lied, or he truly did not believe in what he had spent decades working on.

Phenom-in-all 03-13-06 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by L. Veracity
oh by the way, Darwin denounced his theories before he died

so all that shit they teach you in school about evolution

he didn't even believe his dang self later on in his life ROFLMAO

I wrote a track about this.... it's pretty funny... People still believe it and argue it so hard even tho the one man who created the entire "idea", denounced all his theories. haha. And he denounced 'the big bang' not evolution. word.

ps - Judicial & Lady Fiyah, props on knowin ya stuff - I had to get back to Dooms cause I had to do some readin up on all that old stuff.... I don't think I ever even read 2 Kings, and I forgot about the Deuteronomy thing. Good points.

Crazy Hades 03-13-06 05:29 PM

He created the theory that has been expounded on by others...evolution is still speculation but provides a more believable aspect to life, and gives you the choice of which you believe is more ridiculous...evolution or creationism.

I'm doing a paper on this for History class and I have some notes jotted down somewhere, I'll find specific names for the branching theory and the common ancestor in a bit...I know animal A has a name that starts with an 's'.

Let me find the thoughts of Darwinists on the deathbed statement in which Darwin supposedly denounces his theories...

http://www.myspace.com/charles_darwin_evolution

Unfortunately, myspace blogs are apparently down for construction, so I'll look for another site debating the authenticity of denouncement.

Tha Q. 03-13-06 05:31 PM

It's simple. Darwin didn't renounce his theories. You know, God once stated, "I'm sorry I even made mankind." That's actually IN THE BOOK OF GENESIS!!!!!!!!!!!! Again, evolution is not a theory, but the underlying principle of biology. On a micro level, evolution can be proven in laboratory tests. On a Macro level, that's more speculation than proven. But, you can't argue with fossil records and DNA.

Read his book, "Origin of Species." Until you read that, you don't know what Darwin believed or didn't.


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