get the fuck outta here @ big l bein the best MC of all time.....u jus say shit...get the fuck outta here.....the things that come out of your mouth.....if redman was so hott, why is he bein shelved for the likes of jeezy an rick ross...if the "greatest MC" of all time is running the show....i like red, i've never sed i didnt...but shit u cant knock wayne....all of you whose sayin shit about him keep bringin up fireman, that lets me know none of you have....the gangsta grillz dedication, none of you have the suffix, none of you have any of the squad shit....none of you have any of his shit, let alone his albums, this whole thread is bias...if youre gonna argue come to both sides of the plate.....shit none of you have the leak.....none of you have urban legend, well you mite caz swizz is on it with bring em out...but shit i agree with hip-hop bein about struggle an the ABILITY to express it in rhyme...so thats where i can see where niggaz say jeezy aint lyrical...shit i agree he aint lyrical but he real as fuck and that appeals to me.....he str8 up told that to the backpackers an so called purists...he sed im not a rapper....but shit thug motivation is still in my deck along with cant ban the snowman and trap or die, why because its real....still red is OK wayne to me is better, if they met face to face...wayne would destroy him....i'd pay to see it tho

Wayne is wayyy better. JUST LISTEN TO THA LYRICS....and stop bitchin about him!!

pffffftt...... wayne is decent.... but he's still no redman if you gonna go by the wordplay comparison.... i've listened to wayne's shyt.... i've listened to red's shyt.... from what i hear... "LYRICALLY".... red is better and can flip topics with ease.... WAYNE is too redundant with his rhymes.... all he talk about is getting money... what he got.... and playing like he gangsta.... c'mon.... he in da public eye waaaaaaaaaaayyy too much to be doing the things he say he do in his rhymes.... if that was da case he'd have been behind bars by now.... weezy does have tracks that i like.... but it doesn't make him a better lyricist.....

hell.... ya can't deny canibus's skillz either but he still ain't make a platinum album...... it ain't always about sales... i base my judgements on the individuals skills

if thats the case, off personal skill wayne is the better head to me...flat out...

you're entitled .... but the complexity of lyrics is definitely on redman's side

Redman...

...Easy.

Not only his music is ill, but "How High" was one of the best movies of all time.

You're actually referring to The Source to back up your claim? *shakes head*

No, stfu.

both magazines trashed him so look at what i said
and i was proving a point that lil wayne has no classics

The Source is inaccruate as a motherfucker, for both overrating and underrating albums. According to them, Eminem has no classics either.

Lil Wayne...




EDIT: Didn't know I posted in here. Well.. my answer still stands.

yeah but the source isn't the only one XXL does the same shit
but eminems albums got in the 4 and 41/2 mic range
they aint gonna always be right

Dare is a darkside mother fucker !!!!!!!!!!

ya'll forgot that one !!!

but yea..IMO Red > lil wayne EZZ

Name an emcee better than Big L?..

Rakim. But really it's close, there's a few more emcees that fit into that elite category.

Rakim is dope...KRS too...and big daddy kane....but besides those, None rate anywhere close to L...