nah Tav I'm talking to Crazy Hades.

and Crazy Hades, i called you gullible becaues you expect to find any truths unearthed on a government site, i mean be real son, what'd you expect to see "yeah, ok ok, we admit it, you got us there"

you're looking at biased "info" as evidence. that makes you gullible.

i leave you with this quote from from a popular mechanics person who tried to debunk the 9/11 truth movement

The American public has every right to ask hard questions about 9/11. And informed skepticism about government and media can be healthy. But skepticism needs to be based on facts, not fallacies. Unfortunately, for all too many, conspiratorial fantasies offer a seductive alternative to grappling with the hard realities of a post-9/11 world.


and this rebuttal

I couldn't agree more - the most seductive (and absurd) of which is the conspiracy theory that 19 hijackers with box-cutters collapsed three colossal buildings into their footprints by hitting them with two planes.

Apexx, that doesn't fucking make me gullible. Let me explain something:

It offers a possible explanation for everything. Am I claiming it's all the truth? No, you're quite free to prove them wrong. I'm waiting. They say 'we concluded' multiple times, but they also offer things such as explanations for anomalies seen. You can always check it and prove them wrong, and I'll gladly accept your rebuttal.

actually, yea, that's exactly wht you did. you stood on your soap box and said it debunked every concievable response known to man.

you might as well said "see look the gov didn't engage in foul play - look, they even say so themselves!"

I said 'totally demolishing the controlled demolition theory'. It does have plenty of facts for you to check for yourself, explaining a good deal of things. It offers an alternate explanation; might be a lie, but it shows the possibility of the occurence either way that answers questions posed by CD theorists. Once more, you're allowed to discredit what they say if you want.

you're absolutely right. I certainly am

The Towers were built to withstand twice as much as a plane colliding with them. So unless there was an architectural error.. than there's a possibilty something was detonated from within the building.

Incorrect.

Next

^ THAT answer is just like that debunking shit you posted links too

INCORRECT. NEXT
is not an answer

:) Actually, the debunking sites said 'sources please' whenever Loose Change made a random comment and supplied no relevant information. Because after finding about 300 mistakes and showing counter-answers, well-researched, for each one, I doubt the person is going to go on a wild-goose chase.

By the way, it is an answer. But I'll expound:

Read the links. Also, you might want to notice that the government is not incredibly retarded. You'd think, I don't know, they'd figure out these factors such as a simple plane not being able to take down one of their buildings before doing it, infront of almost every American and on almost every television.

the whole gov't not being stupid story doesnt makes sense
gov't doesnt care if your suspicious of them
as long as they cant be prosecuted, or stopped
they couldnt give 2 shits whether you believe them or not
hence the famous bullshit excuse for 9/11 " they hate our freedoms"

as long as we cant prove they did it, they dont care what we think

That's true. I guess we'll have to make a few assumptions here, huh? I think that the government, even if not many people could do much, would at least make it look somewhat legitimate. It'd probably be a lot easier to hijack one of their own planes and crash it. You might say it wouldn't bring down the buildings and be as devestating, but I don't think it'd make much of a difference whether they stood up or simply a plane did crash into them and destroy quite a bit. Maybe not as many people would die, but it'd still be a national tragedy that would "warrant" the invasion of a foreign country. 9/11 was "meant to" instill fear of terrorists into people's hearts. If the government truly couldn't be overthrown, they probably wouldn't care to topple the entire buildings and lose a bit more money in the process. You'd still be pretty outraged if you heard terrorists crashed planes into important buildings.

By all means, Bush could've done it, but I really don't think he did it the controlled demolition way.

"9/11 Conspiracies...Make no Sense".....yeah thats why there called conspiracies....

fair enough.....on another note
that whole instill fear thing thru 9/11 brings me to another point, i see the govt using fear of terrorism more than the "terrorist" do
they've abused it to the point where YOU can be a terrorist based on their wording of it......dont support your govt? your a terrorist appeaser. you dont support our foreign policy? your a terrorist appeaser. your not passing our laws congress? your being a terrorist appeaser. what? im too late to order breakfast bitch? your a terrorist appeaser. 1st thing Bush said was the terrorist wanna see our freedoms taken away....what does he do? abuse and manipulate laws to expand his power, take away civil freedoms with that warrantless eavsdropping program he was running, promotes fear to the point of paranoia
basically exactly what the "terrorist" wanted
he gets us into TWO wars based pn 9/11, then admits that saddam had nothing to do with it, didnt pose an immediate threat and STILL calls it the war on terror
YEAH ITS THE WAR ON TERROR, THE TERRORISTS WE'RE CREATING AS WE GO ALONG BOMBING COUNTRIES AND FUCKING SHIT UP PEOPLE WILL RETALIATE SOMEHOW..........so not that i dont believe people want to hurt us. i just think our policys create more than was ever there
All beginning with 9/11, which is why its important that we speakout now while we still can
WE as in THIS youth, this generation will have to cover the remarkable debt we going into, WE will have to make up the new army for all these wars you hear about including the impending one coming with Iran...can someone say draft?
so yeah im just ranting but you get my point
we gotta care cuz it affect us the most
you cats in other countries can just make opinions on it and not worry, WE do though

no your fuckin incorrect......that man is right....the architects themselves said they were amazed at how the buildings just collapsed after the planes hit them...those buildings were meant to withstand most natural disasters and they specificilly....yes..SPECIFICLLY...said they were meant to withstand airplane crashes...i mean shit....its simple....its obvious a secondary device was used in these tragedies...if not...then those two buildings would still be standing today and repairs on them would be near finished and people would be going back to work on the 100th floor and everything would be alright.....