you have free will and God knows that, he just also knows what you're going to CHOOSE to do. that doesn't mean you don't have freewill. you can still make a different choice, he just knows you will. what you're talking about is pre-determination, which in my opinion is a basic Philosophy misunderstandment.

Bold = God created it...which is my theory...he CREATED EVERYTHING that we see/don't see...

it's a false sense of free will because we're making choices we've already been destined to make

lol werd I seen it related to what we was talkin about so I decided to say it

What the fuck is taking Apexx and Terumoto so long to post in here? Hurry the shit up, bruhs.

thats who I was actually waitin for
:-)

not true.

You know how amazingly simple this is to figure out? Check it. Because if God were to keep every single person from dieing and suffering, the world would over populate and there'd be no room for anyone to live. Then you can argue "well why doesn’t he keep everyone alive and not suffering and then make the world larger?" Cuz if he did that then wtf is the point of heaven? Heaven is the paradise we go to for all of eternity and the space is unlimited right? Ok, but then if Christians say God loves and forgives all of his children why is it that the Christian religion states only Christians who accept Jesus into their heart will go to heaven? As if it's someone’s fault for being born Muslim and raised to believe differently. If you going to give freewill don't send people to hell for turning out evil just cuz society made them like that. There's unlimited space in heaven right? The whole concept of the bible is just stupid as fuck, I’m sorry, but it is. That's why I hate you ignorant fucking retards believing in RELIGION. You can believe in god, but not in religion. All religion does is try to give a personality to God, who's to say what god is? I believe in God but I don't believe in the fucking image man gave him. Man has no right to stereotype what God is, that's disrespectful man lmao. Maybe God is a science that brought us here; maybe God is energy, who knows? Maybe he is some spiritual being, maybe God is a sick fuck who created this world just to watch and laugh at us while we destroy ourselves. I mean he's alive for eternity, god can't perish, and he must get bored. Just cuz religion labels him as a kind loving man doesn’t make it true. People say a lot of things. You need to stop assuming that there's either a loving caring god, or there's no god at all and that's it. You need to accept the fact that God might be a piece of shit, laughing at us right now while we die. But of course you won't accept this as a possibility cuz who wants to think of God like that? That’s why everyone thinks there's a heaven and it's all fine and dandy, it's to give them something to live for, it's hope, maybe it's false hope, maybe it's not.

Fuck it, straight up, no matter what you say you can't prove or discredit anything in the bible, and arguing won't do anything and won't change the world. Wow k ima stop I can't even get into this, I could type a million words and still have more to say. The possibilities of life and what not are just endless.

On another note, why is it that kids always pull out their big vocab and start using words in their proper context only for subjects like this, or arguments?

"We need to think epistemologically about this. Personally I take an existentialists point of view on the world, and I think the subjective conclusion that the bible has made about God is blasphemy."

Then in a different thread they be like: "LMFAO word up yo that shitz was strigaight out dah ghutta!"

Cracks me up every time.

"Oh no a mature subject gotta change my dialect!"

:thefinger

Amen!.............

nah, seeing as the bible says EVERYONE will hear the gospel, its their choice to decide to accept it or not, but i do agree on the image he has been put with, that right there is wack..

word, jtr
i wanna sex your fingers for typin that up

man there's literally 1000's of questions you can ask that would have someone's brain caving in.

people don't like when you ahnialate the foundation they base their reality on son. and lies break easy so, you do the math where that discussions going.

^^ I'd take your side. But nothing is wrong just because you say it's wrong. Wether you'd like to believe it or not there's someone in this world who can present an arguemant better then you. He can discredit what you say, and make it seem as if what he's talking about is 100% right. But that dosn't make him right, that dosn't proove anything, and all it means is that he can argue better then you. That's why I say fuck laws. Something isn't wrong just because you say it's wrong, and others agree. That's why there's no fucking point in arguing something like THIS. I just fucking hate it when people waste their time with shit like this.

Bro...I would answer all your questions. But, I'm under the impression that you want more than surface answers. So, typing answers on a message board to these thought provoking questions wouldn't do them justice. Also, you can begin to understand God better by reading the bible. I would recommend starting with the book of Genesis...Then, read the book of Proverbs. In the New Testament, read the Gospel of John.

If you want to know the truth, get at me on aim.


PS. I'm assuming you're referring to Christianity. In which case, why are you waiting for people who aren't Christians to "solve your problems"? I think that's your main issue right there. Hit me up or even Past Tense. Implicit also knows alot about the bible. Don't be deceived bro. There are people here who SEEM to know what the bible says but are actually peddling new-age philosophies and false-doctrine.

It's up to you though. Act accordingly.


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