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_Talksic_ 05-08-08 04:53 AM

and to add to that hittler pulled this same terrorism thing back in the 30's right before his global conquest..right after he burned his own building down and blamed it on communist terrorists.

05-08-08 05:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Stylez
In the great words of Mimesis.....................

Your wrong

lol but yeah i like dissagree with 98% of the shit you said in here 2v. They blew us up first. It was a terrorist group that jijacked a plane blew up our buildings. Not iraq or Saddam Huseein. Last i check the group was mainly located in Afgan. We in Iraw because of weapons and to over throw and deal with Saddam. Even your fox 5 news said this.

So by your logic. If a group of black people fucked you up on a street corner Does that mean your going to go over to africa and start killing people. And when they start throwing rocks spears and firing shots from their ak47's you really going to blame us for blowing up their homes and killing them because they were shooting at us. And that they started it. Your logic is greatly screwed.




....What?

What the fuck does plane hijacking terrorism have to do with random black people fucking me up on the street corner? "They blew us up first." which is what I said, plus, when I said blowing up their homes, I meant leveling their homes with tank shots and machine gun bullets, until it fucking collapses. The difference in reality is that it isn't blowing them up, the difference in sight is fucking 0%.

You're pretty much a stupid ass for calling me wrong. I wasn't. You misunderstood it.

Blay'all 05-08-08 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by 2v
"let that shit happen" What shit exactly? We're rebuilding their government.

Some are opposed some aren't, it's our problem and fault though, we're doing what we FEEL is right, whatever the fuck they feel is/isn't could/couldn't be wrong.

They don't need to shoot. Do they? We're in a war because we're being attacked and searching for attackers. Not that presence isn't the provoking cause.

America wants the war over, our presidency doesn't, and that's what's wrong in the scheme of things. All this other crap is distortions.

you have got to be kidding me. THEY are the attackers? 9/11 was the Al Queda in Afghanistan, which has since proven to have absolutely no connection with Iraq. when have they "attacked" us???? (which would assume that you're talking about on our soil, b/c if we're in their country then we can't assume they have to be okay with that just because 2v on Rapverse.com thinks they should be).

the people who have been attacking is us.

i go to school with a kid who moved here from Iraq. do you remember the night when we first announced we were bombing Iraq and everybody stayed up all night watching all the buildings get blown up on the nightvision cameras? okay, well if that camera were moved one block to the left, you would have seen his house. he lived right in the middle of this shit, and it WAS a residential area full of innocent civilians. he was at home with his mom and sisters while it was happening... can you imagine that? okay, so that shit happens, THEN the people who did it start infiltrating your streets to "rebuild your government" (which is sooooo extremely ethnocentric... who decides what government needs to be "rebuilt" and what doesn't?) democracy isn't greater than any other political ideology, and that doesn't give us the right to bomb and invade another country.

05-08-08 05:15 AM

I was walking down the street and got attacked by a black guy with a gun.


what makes you think that means he came from another country to get me?

We're roaming around their country and getting ATTACKED. is that clicking yet?

And our buildings were attacked by Al Queda, true, but Saddam Hussein was rumored to be working with them. When Al Queda ran from the mountains of Iraq into Afghanistan, our congress simply payed the Afghanistan leaders to go after our attackers, which they promptly did NOT do. Where is the disagreement here besides the origination? We're trying to rebuild their government, which is a war because most of them don't want that. Most of our people don't want that either, but the same CIA that convinced George Bush that Saddam Hussein is a threat, is convincing him that Iraq will be overrun by its' neighbors to make their country more richer, if we do not establish Iraq as an independent.

Blay'all 05-08-08 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by 2v
I was walking down the street and got attacked by a black guy with a gun.


what makes you think that means he came from another country to get me?

We're roaming around their country and getting ATTACKED. is that clicking yet?

And our buildings were attacked by Al Queda, true, but Saddam Hussein was rumored to be working with them. When Al Queda ran from the mountains of Iraq into Afghanistan, our congress simply payed the Afghanistan leaders to go after our attackers, which they promptly did NOT do. Where is the disagreement here besides the origination? We're trying to rebuild their government, which is a war because most of them don't want that. Most of our people don't want that either, but the same CIA that convinced George Bush that Saddam Hussein is a threat, is convincing him that Iraq will be overrun by its' neighbors to make their country more richer, if we do not establish Iraq as an independent.

^ not a single point out of that post made any sense whatsoever except for the last one about the CIA. seriously, i don't even know where to start :huh:


"I was walking down the street and got attacked by a black guy with a gun.
what makes you think that means he came from another country to get me?"


ummmmm... where did i say anything that this applies to as a point?


"We're roaming around their country and getting ATTACKED. is that clicking yet?"

wow, you're slow. you're idea of what "roaming" and "attacking" are is so influenced by the society you live in. you're assuming that the US going into any other country un-warranted should be considered totally okay and have no kind of resistance due to the fact that our goal is "rebuilding their government"??? wtf, so if we just decide that rebuilding another country's government is a worthy cause to bomb THEN invade their country, then they HAVE to agree with that logic just because you do, or else any kind of resistance is immoral or considered an "attack"??????

thats such elitist bullshit.

_Talksic_ 05-08-08 05:48 AM

heres the point your missing 2v,
roaming = invading
were not roaming we are invading/attacking their belief system and setting up our way of living....why do you think they call it a holy war????

05-08-08 06:11 AM

And here's the point you both are missing.

I said why we are doing it.

Not that I agree with it or support it. :thumbup:

_Talksic_ 05-08-08 06:25 AM

right,you did, for weapons we didnt find.....lol...wow..
iraq had nothing to do with 911.

05-08-08 06:29 AM

except that money one of the hijackers got was wired from Iraq... That and CIA reports stating Saddam Hussein was working with Al Queda. I thought I said this already?

oh wait yeah.. Fox news.. rofl

Enygma 05-08-08 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by 2v
I was walking down the street and got attacked by a black guy with a gun.


what makes you think that means he came from another country to get me?

We're roaming around their country and getting ATTACKED. is that clicking yet?

And our buildings were attacked by Al Queda, true, but Saddam Hussein was rumored to be working with them. When Al Queda ran from the mountains of Iraq into Afghanistan, our congress simply payed the Afghanistan leaders to go after our attackers, which they promptly did NOT do. Where is the disagreement here besides the origination? We're trying to rebuild their government, which is a war because most of them don't want that. Most of our people don't want that either, but the same CIA that convinced George Bush that Saddam Hussein is a threat, is convincing him that Iraq will be overrun by its' neighbors to make their country more richer, if we do not establish Iraq as an independent.

One major whole in your theory is that Iraq and Afghanistan don't border each other. You claim that al Qaeda ran from the mountains of Iraq to Afghanistan, but they would have had to go completely through Iran first :thumbup:


Here's a map for your amusement.....

http://www.worldatlas.com/webimage/countrys/me.htm

Cola 05-08-08 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by _Talksic_
^^^^exactly terrorism is a faceless enemy, this war on terror will never end, and when it ends in iraq, iran will be next then n korea ect......war is big profit..



'specially for the people in power.

05-08-08 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Enygma
One major whole in your theory is that Iraq and Afghanistan don't border each other. You claim that al Qaeda ran from the mountains of Iraq to Afghanistan, but they would have had to go completely through Iran first


Here's a map for your amusement.....

http://www.worldatlas.com/webimage/countrys/me.htm



and so what if they ran through Iran?

I said From, To.

No but in all seriousness, they stopped at a few gas stations for various reasons along the way, bought some fireworks, fucked some Muslim whores and drank the night away, on their way.

Enygma 05-08-08 04:36 PM

lol.....maybe they even rode camels across due to the high gas prices :thumbup:

_Talksic_ 05-08-08 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by King_Aphilly
'specially for the people in power.

.......
yup.........................

Enygma 05-08-08 08:39 PM

A war is only profitable in the first few years. The last time we had a big recession was during a long war. Its profitable in the short term because it sprouts new jobs. Once the military has all the new shit they need, the companies supporting them only need to sustain the products instead of the original supplying of, therefore lay offs occur and such and we start producing money at an alarming rate to pay for the war. This rapid production of money is what causes our dollar to go to shit which kills our economy :thumbup:


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