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Crysis 12-04-03 10:41 AM

^im not preaching rodney king..........and this dude was high off coke.....maybe he was too fucked up to control what he was doing.........

bouncedoggydog 12-04-03 01:57 PM

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Originally posted by Born To Kill
Here's the old man's two cents...

I do not approve of the cops beating this motherfucker to death.

Was it excessive?

Yes, it was.

Was it necessary?

Perhaps, but most likely not.

But here's the thing, Chrit, Bounce and the rest of you aren't grasping...

WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING SWINGING AT COPS FOR???

That's like saying, "I climbed into that lion's cage at the zoo, kicked one of those lions in the ass...and I'll be damned, they all jumped up and mauled the shit outta me! That's not fair!"

Well, no, it's not fair...

But that's the nature of the beast.

All you guy's are preaching Rodney King and shit...

Well, that was well over ten years ago.

If you haven't figured out by now that giving cops lip or physically fucking with them will earn you an ass-kicking...

Well...

Perhaps you need to be weeded out of society by a good fatal police beating, eh?

And don't think I don't know what's up...

I've done my thug and jail time...

Been there, done that...

And even as a punk ass, long haired teenager...

I knew not to fuck with the cops.

Even though one of my charges was aggravated assault with a deadly weapon on an officer of the law.

You know how I got off?

A real good fucking lawyer...

Who presented my pretty, unmarked face to the judge at the pre-trial hearing...to see if it's gonna go to an actual trial...

And that killed the cop's case...

The judge read the bullshit charges and literally told the prosecuter...

"You expect me to believe this young man brandished a 5 and a half inch knife at 4 Houston Police Officers, charged at them with the intent to inflict bodily harm...and, yet...he doesn't have a single mark on him?"

The charge was reduced to a misdemeanor assault and I walked with a 200 dollar fine.

And why?

Cuz even judges know...

YOU DON'T FUCK WITH COPS!!!


You have a point, but I am arguing form another angle here. I understand your point and it's a valid one but in the case of a cop beating your ass for nothing your natural instinct is to protect yourself. Even more so if you fear for your life. Cop or not, if someone is fearing for thier life they are going to try and stop the baton/cop from beating them. Axe I hace family members who are cops as well so I do understand and respect your point but all too often cops allow the power of the badge to cloud thier judgement.

I can clear this all up in a minute. We all have witnessed on TV, or real life cops and/or unarmed animal control personnel subdue and capture without harm, a crazed and hungry wild animal. In the case of a 1000 pound bear the public would be appualed by the use of deadly force on the animal, yet in the case of a 350 pound human being they are not. I am sorry if you can capture subdue and detain a wild flesh eating animal weighing 1000 pounds without incident, I think the same is appropriate for a human on drugs or not! Yet a doped up large black man is worth less of a decision, than a fucking bear! So I state my case again....FUCKA BABYLON BANDIT!!!!!!!

Born To Kill 12-04-03 02:22 PM

I hear what ya sayin, Bounce...

Ya right, the same respect should be given.

If they can rope a bear or tiger or some shit...

They should be able ta rope a human.

But, reality ain't that way.

Shame that it isn't...

bouncedoggydog 12-04-03 03:38 PM

Ahhh now you see where I was going with my original rant! Kind of sucks, PETA's trying to save the chickens at all cost, yet it is not in the best interest of mankind to bring a man down without inflicting bodily harm! Anyone who knows how to wrestle, hunt or rodeo, could have brought that guy down with ease!

Axiom 12-04-03 03:46 PM

Try Being A 200 Pound Cop With Extra Gear Weighin You Down... (Vest, Belt, Etc...) And You Try To Wrestle Down A 350+ Pound Man That Is Bullrushing You... It's Easy To Say, "Yea, I Would've Just Peppersprayed Him"(Habitat), "Put Him In A Headlock"(Chrit) But The Truth Is... This Is All Easier Said Than Done. I Just Saw The Video Again Today In The Morning And I Stick With My Views... No UNNECESSARY Force Was Used... They Needed Take Him Down Before He Did Harm To The Officers... They Didn't Have Time To Try To Sweet Talk Him Into The Cuffs, And You Actually Thing The Officers Would've Ran Away? No... Most Of You Are Just Bein Quick To Yell "Racist" When That's Not What Caused This.

self 12-04-03 03:48 PM

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Originally posted by Dappa Rappa
Why is it that US cop are so sick in the fuckin head and racist? In England the cops get beat down by the pps.... thats the right way, jus playin


Better than the cops in oh lets say Columbia, Cuba, Russia, pick a country almost any country.

Axiom 12-04-03 03:52 PM

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Originally posted by ....BaSh....

Word...
If You Have Nothing Productive To Add To The Discussion... Don't Contribute Anything At All.

self 12-04-03 03:52 PM

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Originally posted by Axe E. Um
Try Being A 200 Pound Cop With Extra Gear Weighin You Down... (Vest, Belt, Etc...) And You Try To Wrestle Down A 350+ Pound Man That Is Bullrushing You... It's Easy To Say, "Yea, I Would've Just Peppersprayed Him"(Habitat), "Put Him In A Headlock"(Chrit) But The Truth Is... This Is All Easier Said Than Done. I Just Saw The Video Again Today In The Morning And I Stick With My Views... No UNNECESSARY Force Was Used... They Needed Take Him Down Before He Did Harm To The Officers... They Didn't Have Time To Try To Sweet Talk Him Into The Cuffs, And You Actually Thing The Officers Would've Ran Away? No... Most Of You Are Just Bein Quick To Yell "Racist" When That's Not What Caused This.


Axe, refer to my post where I quoted you before.

Seriously, pull out the gun.
Or take out the 350lb man's legs...its hard to get up on broken lets, especially when your 350lbs...


Some local coffee shop should have given them all free doughnuts. They would have all calmed down and become friends.

Crysis 12-04-03 04:19 PM

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Originally posted by Axe E. Um
Try Being A 200 Pound Cop With Extra Gear Weighin You Down... (Vest, Belt, Etc...) And You Try To Wrestle Down A 350+ Pound Man That Is Bullrushing You... It's Easy To Say, "Yea, I Would've Just Peppersprayed Him"(Habitat), "Put Him In A Headlock"(Chrit) But The Truth Is... This Is All Easier Said Than Done. I Just Saw The Video Again Today In The Morning And I Stick With My Views... No UNNECESSARY Force Was Used... They Needed Take Him Down Before He Did Harm To The Officers... They Didn't Have Time To Try To Sweet Talk Him Into The Cuffs, And You Actually Thing The Officers Would've Ran Away? No... Most Of You Are Just Bein Quick To Yell "Racist" When That's Not What Caused This.



i didnt say that...i said they should have pepper sprayed him first then if they had to beat him.......b/c they beat him....then peppersprayed him....thats jsut a waste of pepperspray...which costs the taxpayers money

Crysis 12-04-03 04:21 PM

plus...im not saying they are racist....b/c they would have probly done the same to a white 350 lb guy.............it just wouldnt have been as publicized

Axiom 12-04-03 05:10 PM

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Originally posted by Bruklor


My cousin is a cop.

When a man strung out on drugs refuses to give up, you don't contintue to beat him, you pull out your fucking gun. Jesus, thats what its there for! You don't have to shoot the guy, but seeing a gun is a lot different than a fucking stick.

Or

So he kept on getting up? BREAK HIS LEGS! Hit is legs, not his fucking chest or head. Fucking hell its the only thing you go for when someone is 350lbs.
OK... I See Where You Comin From... But In The Heat Of The Moment You Don't Have Time To Analyze Where You Should Be Hitting The Suspect To Be Most Effective... Out In The Streets, The Decisions Needa Be Made In Seconds... With Adrenline Rushing... You're Just Swingin To Keep The Guy At Bay. And They Never Hit The Guy In The Head... The Autopsy Reports Are In And They Were All Body Blows. Just Pointin That Out. And Pointin The Guy At The Guy Is Useless... Because Unless It Is A Life Or Death Situation... They Can't Use Deadly Force... And Most Suspects Know This... So By The Time The Guy Is Charging You... You Don't Have Time To Go, "Oh, Shit, I Can't Use My Gun... Gotta Put It Away And Bust Out The..." BOOM, He's Already Being Suffocated By The 350+ Pound Guy. See?

Chrit 12-04-03 05:14 PM

^^^
Officers go through training that should make it insticnt to take out legs... and other non-lethal ways of subduing a person...

And to clarify things... I never said a headlock...

Its a chicken wing choke...

It can immobolize persons of any size.

self 12-04-03 05:16 PM

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Originally posted by Axe E. Um
OK... I See Where You Comin From... But In The Heat Of The Moment You Don't Have Time To Analyze Where You Should Be Hitting The Suspect To Be Most Effective... Out In The Streets, The Decisions Needa Be Made In Seconds... With Adrenline Rushing... You're Just Swingin To Keep The Guy At Bay. And They Never Hit The Guy In The Head... The Autopsy Reports Are In And They Were All Body Blows. Just Pointin That Out. And Pointin The Guy At The Guy Is Useless... Because Unless It Is A Life Or Death Situation... They Can't Use Deadly Force... And Most Suspects Know This... So By The Time The Guy Is Charging You... You Don't Have Time To Go, "Oh, Shit, I Can't Use My Gun... Gotta Put It Away And Bust Out The..." BOOM, He's Already Being Suffocated By The 350+ Pound Guy. See?


What the fuck do boxers do? lol

And cops are paid to analyze the situation, not beat people to death, thats the criminals job.

self 12-04-03 05:19 PM

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Originally posted by Chrit
^^^
Officers go through training that should make it insticnt to take out legs... and other non-lethal ways of subduing a person...

And to clarify things... I never said a headlock...

Its a chicken wing choke...

It can immobolize persons of any size.


If the cop even said chicken wing they would have subdued the fat guy.

Chrit 12-04-03 05:20 PM

^ LMAO!!!!!!!!!

But seriously...

I have a point...

And have been beaten by the police...
They take shit way too far


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