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Blay'all 10-19-05 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Tha Q.
o sup dawg


i was bout to asl A/S/L...so I cud cyber :hump:


eeeeeeeeer SIKE...


but yea...let's say this was racist...Something else that bothers me is how people deny the incidence of ANYTHING racial? I'm like, "exactly when is something ever racially motivated then?" That's the problem with racism in my opinion. It's subtle in so many ways. Back in the 1950s and 60s, they would literally spit in a black man's face. Today, they do it by denying him credit or erecting other economic barriers they know minorities will have a tough time overcoming. It's a game they force us all to play with out giving us the rules or instructions. It's up to the individual to figure it all out.



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yeah, I dunno I just hate it when people try and ignore that there is still racism in this country..... like "if you want equality then you shouldnt even pay attention to race," yes well thats tru, BUT this country isnt at a point yet where that is possible, you have to acknowledge that discrimination is still here and a MAJOR problem in this country or else you will never get anywhere... ignoring it is not the answer.

Black Queen 10-19-05 10:14 PM

ummmmmmmmm im prolly late but this isnt racist its jus stupid as fuck :bored:

ksr 10-19-05 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by I-NOC
yes, I actually wrote an editorial about this for our newspaper


If they dont deserve the money, then WHO does?
What people dont understand is that nobody sits back and decides how much to pay these guys, people buy tickets to the games, buy merchandise, and that decides a player's paycheck. They bring in the fans, and it definitely shouldnt be sitting in the GM's pockets.....


ok, there good at wut they do
but look at basketball in general
theyre not doin nethin to help ne1 by playin basketball
in a way, ne1 wit a "real" job does more than they do
as 4 who deserves the money...
u kno how many lives cud be saved if ONE high-payed player (10mil+) donated ONE year's salary to a poor country
hate to use the cliche "in india people are dying", but its true
10 mill (thats 1 yr of bball, 1 player, not includin sponsorships, etc) cud be distributed as $10,000 for 1000 different people. u kno how much suttin that little to a bball player cud affect people's lives?
n wit all of american sports, all of the overpayed athletes, u kno how much money that is?
sports is a MULTIBILLION dollar industry
is entertaining americans that much more important then savin people's lives who are livin in hell just for bein born in the wrong place?

Tha Q. 10-19-05 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by I-NOC
yeah, I dunno I just hate it when people try and ignore that there is still racism in this country..... like "if you want equality then you shouldnt even pay attention to race," yes well thats tru, BUT this country isnt at a point yet where that is possible, you have to acknowledge that discrimination is still here and a MAJOR problem in this country or else you will never get anywhere... ignoring it is not the answer.



seems like the more economically advantaged someone is, the more likely they are to deny the incidence of racism...wut do u think?


It irks me that people try to hide what happened in the 50s and 60s...that shit wasn't that long ago...and those people are still alive...So, there is racism in this country. What can be done about it? People need to speak out against it when they see it. Don't laugh at racial jokes, even if no "minority" is around. Minorities need to educate themselves on how the system works.

Blay'all 10-19-05 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Tha Q.
seems like the more economically advantaged someone is, the more likely they are to deny the incidence of racism...wut do u think?


It irks me that people try to hide what happened in the 50s and 60s...that shit wasn't that long ago...and those people are still alive...So, there is racism in this country. What can be done about it? People need to speak out against it when they see it. Don't laugh at racial jokes, even if no "minority" is around. Minorities need to educate themselves on how the system works.

Yeah, I catch so much shit from my friends for that.... they're all like "dude its just a joke"... then I go off about some shit... but yeah its pretty interesting that even tho its "just a joke" they still somehow dont ever say it when I got my boys around.

Black Queen 10-19-05 10:22 PM

donate one years salary thats jus dumb but you makin a point but the one year salary thang is jus dumb but neway they work jus as hard as with real jobs basketball is hardwork believe me i played on the team u got to do to much in practice

Blay'all 10-19-05 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by -KSR-
ok, there good at wut they do
but look at basketball in general
theyre not doin nethin to help ne1 by playin basketball
in a way, ne1 wit a "real" job does more than they do
as 4 who deserves the money...
u kno how many lives cud be saved if ONE high-payed player (10mil+) donated ONE year's salary to a poor country
hate to use the cliche "in india people are dying", but its true
10 mill (thats 1 yr of bball, 1 player, not includin sponsorships, etc) cud be distributed as $10,000 for 1000 different people. u kno how much suttin that little to a bball player cud affect people's lives?
n wit all of american sports, all of the overpayed athletes, u kno how much money that is?
sports is a MULTIBILLION dollar industry
is entertaining americans that much more important then savin people's lives who are livin in hell just for bein born in the wrong place?

right, but the fact is PEOPLE provide them with that income, so if you've ever been to a professional sports event then you are a hypocrite if you also believe they get payed too much.......

but about the donating salary, thats a personal choice
its up to them what they do with they money that they've worked for


thats a moral issue with individuals, nothing to do with the league
the league cant just take their money and be like "nah sorry, you're not getting payed this year, people are starving in india"

ksr 10-19-05 10:29 PM

yea, i kno, that was just an example
but when u look closely at it, its really heartless to have so much money go to entertainment when it could make such a difference somewhere else
n yes, i am a hypocrite, i've bought cds, gone to pro sports games, etc
almost every1 in the country has
but if i was nba player rich, i'd donate a lot of it

Tha Q. 10-19-05 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by I-NOC
Yeah, I catch so much shit from my friends for that.... they're all like "dude its just a joke"... then I go off about some shit... but yeah its pretty interesting that even tho its "just a joke" they still somehow dont ever say it when I got my boys around.




Well...u kno...some people get their rocks off puttin' other people down


but, nothing resembling racial jokes would ever be tolerated on most work places today...

^^That seems like an improvement. But, isn't that basically a bandaid on a laceration?


Shit has got to change. It's no secret that white people enjoy the privilege of being "white" in this country. So many people boast how "open minded" they are. But, I'm under the impression that if push came to shove, most if not all white people would use that privilege to their advantage.


The kids on this site amuse me. It's sort of the classic defense "but I got black friends." pssf...you don't know until you live it.

Baby Bop 10-20-05 06:34 AM

just want to say a couple things...

The US could give more money to countries such as India, that was mentioned, and the reason we dont is because the country's gov't doesnt use it for their people, they use it to buy weapons and shit with. We gave money to India and some other country that India hates, and we looked at their progress and all they had was more guns for their army and a nuclear powerplant....thats why we give them money in segments, or we just give them already made supplies, u cant just give a country that can be a potenial threat millions of dollars.....

and to memisis if u don't think clothes has anything to do with hip-hop culture then your fuckin stupid..would it be the same if every concert or music video or photo op' rappers had to wear suits because they 'professional' rappers? hell no it wouldnt, and when Hammer came out wearing those pants back in they day, that was a hip-hop clothing trend everyone got into...so clothes has to do a lot with hip-hop...

And the NBA is saying that they have to wear suits to and from games, practices, and any other events associated with the NBA, and the NBA is their job, their life, and they took away their freedom to wear what eva the hell they want, i can see them wearing suits to games and press conferences, but just going to a practice or anything else like that and having to wear a suit is dumb, i dont know where they got racism from tho.....

Black Queen 10-20-05 06:54 AM

its no racism in that its jus a stupid idea as i can see and the way the NBA players dress have nothin to do with hip hop culture its jus how they prefer to dress

Labels 10-21-05 05:09 PM

I dont think its racism its classism , because just like when kids at school hate on kids dat dont have the best clothes , those kids go out and lie,cheat and steal to get it. And also the young cats are trying so hard to like a Jay z , nelly and 50 that they forget bout there future , not everybody is going to have a hit single , to take them to da top.

Shazz 10-21-05 05:36 PM

Any cool codes on NBA Live 2005 that you guyz have discoverd?

Blay'all 10-21-05 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Shazz
Any cool codes on NBA Live 2005 that you guyz have discoverd?

lmao wtf?????


first of all 05 is old as hell dawg, 06 is out
and second, why the hell did u just com in here and say that? lol

Incineratedrose 10-21-05 08:43 PM

Its not racist, its called being professional.

Orion. 10-21-05 08:54 PM

Chea I heard some ish about that...only towards black teens...never did i thnk charles barkeley would say that...never

Incineratedrose 10-21-05 08:56 PM

Charles Barkeley is fat as hell now. so it doesnt matter.

ksr 10-21-05 11:00 PM

wow this got so offtopic

Incineratedrose 10-21-05 11:05 PM

Yep, but he is fat. You cant deny!

COME luva 10-22-05 02:24 AM

charles barkely has always been "big boneded"



haaaa

Terumoto 10-22-05 03:44 AM

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Originally Posted by I-NOC
yeah, Jermaine ONeal was looking clleeeeeeann at his preseason game, he was on the bench hurt, I actually dont mind the whole suit wearing thing, I think it looks nice.... but Im just defending that they really have the right not to be forced to do that, based on who their employer is.

(oh yeah, I forgot to mention, this goes for when you're injured in "street clothes" as they USED to call it, as well)


Do you even know what you're saying? How could the employer "not have the right" to make their employees comply to a dress code. Its not racist, and its not against the hip hop culture at all.

You're whole argument is flawed... All they want is for professional players in a professional league to look professional. Obviously the guys that run the shit arent against the "hip hop culture" since they market it.

Magic5 10-22-05 03:47 AM

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Originally Posted by COME luva
charles barkely has always been "big boneded"



haaaa


Yeah, but he used to run people over and shit.. now he just eats t bones.. and shit.

Magic5 10-22-05 03:49 AM

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Originally Posted by One Man Band
Do you even know what you're saying? How could the employer "not have the right" to make their employees comply to a dress code. Its not racist, and its not against the hip hop culture at all.

You're whole argument is flawed... All they want is for professional players in a professional league to look professional. Obviously the guys that run the shit arent against the "hip hop culture" since they market it.


I-NOC just got owned, for real.

COME luva 10-22-05 03:56 AM

when does the season start

geesh

almost thanksgivin

Ysdat 10-22-05 04:46 AM

I feel a dark skinned person loves to use there color as a cope out when they dont get there way. When in reality racism is created by continuisly talking about it and living a make beleive fanasty that it is still as apparent as 80-100 years ago.

I do how ever feel this i sa ploy against hip hop religion. Hip hop is becoming a apparent, not to mentioned hated, fasion for general youth of today. Our elders see it as not politically correct,so this seems to me like one of many things they will do to eleminate our culture.
but what they dont relise is,the more you fight hip hop,the stronger we get.

Incineratedrose 10-22-05 04:57 AM

Yeah, but you're not even on the point anymore and its really obvious, we're not talking about fighting hip-hop. You just assume NBA and hip hop work hand in hand.

Ysdat 10-22-05 05:03 AM

they dont go hand in hand, but for an example ..a basketball throw back jersey is well known to be worn by a rapper or someone living the hip hop culture.

Our elders of today,who dont acftually undertsand a fucking thing about our culture,see it all as the saem thing. there is no diffrence between clothing styles from basketball to the "iresponsible youth" they see in rap music videos. Our elders are closed minded. So to them they are one int he saem, but to us, actually living the life. We understand the big diffrence.

JRoy 10-22-05 05:05 AM

i dont see what the big deal is?? shit hip hop is tied in with the nba a lot...its like during the game when the home team has the ball do you think there gonna be playin some old folks music like classical jazz?? Fuck no there gonna be bumping 50 cent or some shit...somthing that'll get the team amped no make um fall asleep

Incineratedrose 10-22-05 05:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Ysdat
they dont go hand in hand, but for an example ..a basketball throw back jersey is well known to be worn by a rapper or someone living the hip hop culture.


Thats stereotyping no?

Ysdat 10-22-05 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Hopesfall
Thats stereotyping no?


no its not, thats simply stating a common fashion for hip hop youth is a basketball jersey. Im not saying that every kid that wears one is hip hop oreintated, but the world's youth right now are hip hop orientated, so when i first stated that, I wasnt worrrying about stereotyping what is a to big of a abundance of people to even worry about insignifigant words such as stereotyping.


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