When that comes on in a club the whole place goes sick and raves, its a fuckin ill experience.

we speak English because they started the language, yes
but English is based off of other languages like Latin, lol

but also, we took English from there to here and butchered the FUCK out of it, most Americans couldn't speak proper English to save their lives...can't conjigate verbs or use nouns and prepositions in the correct way LMAO

so you're both right and both wrong lol

but yeah U.K. rap is lyrically superior to U.S. rap

THE END

first off.. i never said there isnt ANY of that shit here.... when u look at the ones doin the @club@ tracks, it isnt uk hip hop... its grime, the new age garage(why u people cant understand the difference between uk hip hop and garage i really dont know)

and we do get people tlkin bout the streets here but not in a way like americans do... americans promote that shit, but the UK heads tend to talk about in in an educational way or in a way that describes what its like, but not like we hear from americans bein like "ima shoot you in the face" type shit jus to fit the image.... n the only tracks ive heard in UK bout fuckin girls are done with humour to them but i havent heard that many tracks with that vibe.

also, i never once said that americans never talk about stuff other than guns e.t.c.... but that is what most of the ones with any kind of status talk about.. and for the record, i come from an area faced with gangs, drugs, guns and violence... ive been stabbed, and had a gun to my face, but u dnt hear me playin that played out bullshit character in my music do you??? no, exactly

Maybe you should. Thats what music is and shit. EXPRESSION. Not "I can't talk about this because its not right". Americans just go all out. We don't bite our tounges.

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I wish :(

but i dont want to express that..... im not the type to spit about that shit and "dwell" on the past.... i dont need to put my buisiness out there for other people to hear, its my life, i dont need to tell everybody everything about me in order to sell music, id rather be me creative and show the real skill i have, plus i enjoy it so much more spittin about creative stuff rather than generic played bullshit thats been said a trillion times

the only reason lame American rappers r in the mainstream iz bcuz ppl r buying their albulms....... ever since Pac and Biggie, lames that wanna keep their street cred. without livin in the hood have made whack albulms about how othe rappers r fake and they keep it real in the hood..... if little ignorant ass kids stopped buying their albulms, they'd stop making them, and u'd think better of US rap..... the only way to get to know what rel US hip-hop iz like iz to look past the mainstream and search for the underground rappers...... look for the lyricists...... we're here........

you dont have to be from the hood to be able to rap chip.

it really makes me laugh when u act like ur mainstream artists are the only ones i know.... but concidering ive performed supporting acts like the roots, and immortal technique when theyve come over here, ye go figure....and i have heard sum good lyricists, but still none of them drop rhyme schemes like UK heads do

yea, the roots r sick......... i wasn't suggesting that their weren't mainstram artists that weren't dope, i'm just sayin the US iz a big country, and there's no way u, or even i could keep track off all of the dope underground heads over here....

lmao......... i'd never dream of suggesting that...... i was refferring to ur 50cents and all of the other 'gangsta rappers' that make all the money, while some kool ass dudes and dope heads don't, simply bcuz of what kids r in to......

well wen i joined gritty... i got fucked about by them, so all wat i was meant to do wit em failed becos of the fact i was messed about and left... and ye i wud have video except i dnt vgot a camcorder and didnt have a digi cam wen i did them shows.. i was also meant to support.. scratch from the roots(feat mystro), yungun n mr thing wit doc brown hostin at end of this month at atlantic bar in oxford... but the venue sold up n shut down n the promoter mhas been un-able to find a new venue big enough to accomodate the amount of people they get everytime... so dont act like u know shit about me or what i do mate... u dont know a damned thing

efecx,

you get 1 xtra over in ireland?

ye it is efecx n ye its digital but u can listen online too

im assumin its because i get songs played on there

US hip hop...
i dislike uk hip hop...

Alright, settle this, how bout you post a track that you think is a good representation of UK hip hop n' I'll post one for US hip hop...deal? Alright

ure stupid immortal techinque, planet asia, were basic in the uk

You got more people to choose from.

Download

klashnekoff - murda
or klash - jankrowville.

They top.

There is no real point of this comparison...

Ok, I live in the U.K and listen to BOTH U.S and U.K rap, mainly being underground from both...both have good hip-hop and both have bad hip-hop, so there is no way you can generalise either one as being good - Which one is better? Well this is open for debate, and it will be hard for people to give unbiased views as many of us will have personal prefrences for whatever reason and will judge unfairly just because of little reasons such as accent, living in that same nation.....

So what the fuck is the point of arguing?

To the point though, U.K hip- hop does have alot of garbage and so does U.S hip-hop....but U.K's can be more easily seen simply because promoters like Channel U will accept ANYTHING to show, as long as the person is rapping and has a video for it....

But if people listen to the real U.K hip-hop they will find that there is a lot of talent around....people like Jehst, Klashnekoff, Kyza, Tommy Evans, Gensis Elijah, etc. it is hard to deny they are not talented as emcees even if you are an American...

Same with U.S hip-hop there is a lot of garbage (50 Cent) but then you have great diversity and once again a lot of talent mainly in the undergroud....Immortal Technique, Chino XL, Copywrite, Vakill, Necro, Apathy, Grafh, Diabolic

People need to be open-minded and appreciate the real hip-hop on both sides...I don't see accent as being a problem because I listen to U.S hip-hop a lot being from the U.K so some of these ignorant American fuckers need to quit being bitches...and vice versa

In terms of diversity of the real hip-hop, the U.S is def ahead - but that can simply come down to the fact the U.S has a much larger population

In terms of production, the U.S is ahead in terms of creativity and quality...but this is a generalisation, there are still good U.K hip-hop producers and you could easily argue that the U.S is better simply because it has more producers in the first place...

Lyrically......what's the fuckin point of arguing on this - both sides have good lyricists, and no U.K rappers do not use better rhyme scheme (whoever said that, Leady). It is hard to prove anything like this, and that is not true....there are great U.S lyricists, and same is true for the U.K....but once again, there are more U.S lyricists that would be considered great simply because the U.S has a larger population....

Now I was comparing the more real hip-hop (underground), if you go mainstream the U.S is still ahead especially in terms of production - The 'mainstream' U.K beats do not even compare to a lot of the mainstream U.S beats, having said that U.K rap is only just starting to go mainstream...but even lyrically, mainstream U.S rappers are generally better....

Ok

now Fuck arguing and appreciate both

I like Us Hip Hop better i understand it and well its just better too me

I hate UK Hip Hop
I only like klashkenoff

Mike Jones would own UK Hip Hop. Lol jp. I really havent heard any UK Hip Hop so i dunno wat side to take exactly yet.. Gimmi a few artists that i can look up from the UK side and compare em to a US rapper lol.

Um, we do have better ryhming schemes, listen to some jehst etc and then listen to some USA head...our rhyme scheme is way more complex and switched up more.

Jehst, Klashnekoff, Kyza, Tommy Evans, Gensis Elijah @ kriz.

Lmao @ the bitching in here

Us musics good

Uk musics good.....

...fuckin hell...

Daubs i dont think us accent sounds shit...

i dont think uk accent sounds shit either Nk

we both have good music

.....lets leave it at that ...pz

i dint say the accents shit. I bump em both.

You Said They Accent Sounds Stupid.....

But It Dont

Neither Does Uk

They Both Spit Good Shit.....


Stop THis FUckin Debate

I meant there slang.

i like u.k hiphop i think it sounds tight maddog doin his thing leady them cats is chill with me the songs forum would be boring without em keep doin it u,k hiphop elevation also aussie hiphop is cool to i got that open mind

he speaks the truth....you listen to klash and jehst etc?

US Hip hop, easily.
Why?
Because when you say Dizzy Rascal, S.A.S. or Klashnekoff in the US, people are like "wtf, who are they?"
but in the uk, if you say
Eminem, Jay-z, 2pac or 50 cent, they be like "yeah, Im a big fan of them"

cause people DR...you should no that, most hip hop fans are 50 DR you gotta admit, and its not about the most popular...its about the music.

who in the UK is fuckin with the old eminem?
with Jay-z's shit?
or with Joe Budden
or 2 pac
lyrically
c'mon people
we have people like Canibus, Chino XL, Immortal Technique
C'MON
BE SERIOUS!

your gonna have more quality obviousely, look at the size of the countrys and populations, Klash would be up there with some greats thgough im sure of it.

wtf do the size of the country have to do with hip hop?
thats an excuse, fuck out of you.
how about this
US hip hop > europe hip hop
europe is way bigger than america
:thumbup:
we still own