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Dooms.. I am not the one out of touch with reality here... Your whole mindset is just fucked dude... I know you dont like to be wrong just as much as the next guy.. But I constantly found myself saying what the fuck is this guy thinking as I was reading your post... Let me take this point by point.. First off, as I've been saying.. You might not like it.. But a long time ago, nobody gave a flying fuck about equality for all races and all that other shit people are into these days.. You say they should of left africans alone.. Which is ofcourse true.. But the fact is.. That was NOT the mindset people had back then.. Your acting like people should have been smarter than to enslave a race.. But you are compleatly out of touch with how people thought back then... Now after time, ofcourse black people fought and won their rights back and abolished slavery.. Which began retaliations.. Which ofcourse inevidibly lead to a movement of whites that wanted to protect their people.. You already know this.. But your acting like slavery was some big mistake when to people back then.. They didnt give a shit... It wasnt about right or wrong.. Black people were viewed as savages and they were an easy target.. Sorry history isnt up to your standards morally.. But there is nothing wrong with what I said like your making out... Two.......Your neibours do NOT represent the views of the larger majority of white people in america or world wide. What you are saying is obserd. You are saying that because your female neibour is scared of you.....(a 6'1 large build black rapper who deals cocaine) she and her husband is a racist.. Sure man.. Maybe they are.. Maybe they secretly diss you behind your back.. But are they full blown racists? No buddy. They are simply people who dont like your race because they have probably seen a lot of violent black gang members in their time.. Your people would be the same way in their situation.. Stop acting like its a big conspiracy.. Just cause their scared doesent mean they secretly spread hate messages and neo-nazi proporganda and want to exhile all other races from the country like the real racists that are out there.. (which is a far smaller minority THANKYOU VERY MUCH)... 3.........Now your tipping the scale to suit your own argument.. According to you all white people who are scared or dont like your people are automatically full blown racists.. However only the black people who are known to be involved in black power movements support black power groups.. Remember I said "support" and not involved... ...Tell me.. Do you often meet black people who would cuss out and become embarrased over black power movements? Cmon man.. This was really one of those wtf moments.. Your arguing with a double standard AND only giving a one sided view.. 4.........Ohh yeah.. Now all the ranting and bullshit about what you THINK you know about white people... I found this to be the most retarded and ignorant paragraph you wrote out of all of it... Dont even TRY and say I'm out of touch with reality... Here is you steriotyping all white people (again) saying we are all insecure and only happy when we attack someone... LMFAO.. Where are you getting this from? All these examples your giving.. A war on religion he says.. White people brought disease he says... A war on everything he says... Buddy look at history... War is what brings advancement.... If it were up to your people we would all be dancing around in the dirt infront of a fire killing animals with spears... Seriously.. The world IS morally fucked.. Your so caught up with ideals on what the world should be like that it clouds your ability to see logical reason.. Everything happens for a reason.. Go dance with some fairys and hug a tree for me brother... Just dont sit there and cry a fucking river to me about our ruthless nature towards advancement while your people and philosophys had you planting your ass firmly in the stone age for thousands of years while we built up gigantic civilisations and conquored the world... Eat a dick up... And ..that brings me to the anti black parties... Whats the ratio of black street gangs that are violent to how many white anti-black parties that are violent.. And you say I'M out of touch with reality... Get a fucking grip... How can you sit here and talk so much shit to me about racist white gangs when a vast majority of your black street gangs are anti-white in the first place... .........Oh yeah.. According to you.. Black people are totally innocent of racism and those mean ass white men are entirly the problem these days... Sorry bruz... But your full of shit... Your not stupid.. You've just mastered the art of making misleading arguements pulling facts from all over the place to attempt to give people the impression your right because you hate being wrong... |
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Nah bruz.. The world has come a long way since white people thought that... You know I dont share those views... |
Rv should have in editorial section were we can all write essays about our views on certain topics like this one
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Man its 4:30am I'm out..
I'll be back in the morning to reply to the next load of nonsense apexx pulls out of his ass trying to act like hes got shit figured out...... Good conversation tho... :thumbdown: |
^^^No, this isn't a good conversation. You're ignorant and publicly displaying it. What's good about that?
Apexx is just confirming what I said on the first page. nuff said. |
Tha Q... Your a childish insecure uppity homo that already has a disliking towards me because I pay you out...........
Why dont you just go suck a dick.... Your posts hold no clout here.... Hey now keep it clean.. no low blows. you know better keep it above the belt |
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You're uneducated and ignorant and not learning anything. So, you're making yourself look dumb. Uppity? That's you kiddo, thinking you're going "toe-to-toe" with someone who's clowning you while you revel in your ignorance. Go learn something about this topic before you open your mouth. moron |
Toe to toe?
Nah.. Its called being realistic when someones talking a load of crap... Run along and play fag boy... |
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Meanwhile, Apexx managed to whore you time and again. You have no basis for your baseless arguments. You're ignorant about race relations in America. That's obvious because your posts are the equivalent of a toddler attempting to utter his first word. It's noble, but utterly pathetic. Once again, go learn about this subject before you open your mouth. asshole |
Whored me he says...
Bahahhahahahahaha Yeah sure man.. Whatever you say..:thumbup: |
Aye, My Names Grafh Y'all.
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*Cuts Tension Witta Knife*
Black Hand Label We Are The GANG...GANG., |
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It dosen't even make sense arguing with you man. Especially since I'm not arguing. My argument is about the facts, which you have completely wrong. Your argument is about "Apexx" and anything he says. You see what you want to see and simply assume or fabricate everything else and I have far more beneficial things to do than to pick apart the reasons why you sound totally inexperienced again. It would take so long to go back to what you think the effect of the cause is and show you that that's simply not the case and I honestly believe that would be a complete waste since once again, your focal point is "apexx", not the facts. But thanks for your input anyway. Peace. |
All This Arguin Is Givin A Kneegrow A Headache.
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Wow.. What a way to sound like a conceded little princess.. I been posting on this discussion with plenty of people today what makes you think your special you pretencious fucking clown... You had a go at me trying to say I was wrong on all accounts.. Which was idiotic simply because there is no room in any of my arguments to be wrong.. They are all historically correct and a hell of a lot less pseudo interlectual than the bullshit your trying to pass off as true.. Not to mention your defence mechanism is (as always) to try and make out that I'm the one that doesent know what hes talking about... Your arguments are full of shit... Come to terms with it and move on.. |
lol @ Nos moving this to a more obscure forum because he's getting his ass handed to him.
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Its the difference between knowledge of the situation from an un-biased outside perspective..
And letting your emotions cloud your opinions... People cant handle the truth because they already have their pre-concieved views of what is going on... Someone lives next to some people who might be closit racists.. And all of a sudden they steriotype a large majority of white people as being full blown racists.. Someone thinks history is morally screwed.. But they show not only a lack of understanding about the situation because their views on morality and equality cloud their ability to accept their own shortcommings that lead to what happened happening. But also they show a complete lack of ability to handle the truth and insist on being naieve and narrow minded......... Someone talks about violent racist white power movements in an obviously baited thread.. But neglects to mention the amazingly large amount of violent black street gangs that infest poor areas all over the place and generally dont have a great attitude towards white people themselves.. And yet, I'm the one whos in-experienced in this argument... HA.. Get fucked... |
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Fine.. I'll move it back. I havent gotton my ass handed to me once in this thread... But it wasnt a discussion suited to the lyricist lounge main forum... Faggot... |
Cool it down nos needs to learn how to hold a convo with out hating on other people. thank you enough said
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Dude its quiet clear apexx started by quoting my posts and talking horse shit...... |
then be the better man and don't fall into his internet beef traps its like walking through a Mcdonald's trash can with that kid
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Nah man.. If it was internet beef.. I wouldnt of given it the time of day.. |
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ooooooooohhhhhhhhh...I'm hurtin now Now it isn't appropriate, but yesterday it was? lol pssf loser |
will i get in trouble if i say white people have it better than black people in most cases... minus the OJ simpson case
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Yep.. Yesterday it was a bunch of kids trying to compare struggles... Today its moved on... *yawns* I'm bout to be out... Real soon........... |
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speaking of "OJ", some rapper named OJ approached me yesterday and wanted me to listen to his album. dude was decent. I wasn't about to buy it though. 1 |
Can't we all just get along, we used to be friends :(
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Sure...w/e u say Miss Nos. Thought u were out 30 minutes ago. tsk tsk tsk Apexx basically wasted his time trying to explain something to someone who is autistic, but with ZERO ability. |
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it's always funny to see someone nowhere near the US telling me about US history. That'd be like me telling you about the austraillian underground. When I'm wrong, how naive and foolish would I look? Now how naieve and foolish are you conducting your self? You're wilin out and calling people names, flippin out all over the place. Is this how you prove a point? Is this how you illustrate what you consider to be "Facts"? Nope. This is you attacking the people personally. Why? If you're facts are correct, why are you so mad? I know what's a fact, so why would I get rowdy and out of control like a kid with a temper tantrum because no one's listening to me if I know the truth and someone else doesnt? Just dosen't make sense. Quote:
See this is an example of exactly what I'm talking about. See, where did I say "a large magority of white people are full blown racists"? You completely fabricated this in your mind and made an assumption about what I feel, which is incorrect to say the least. The funny thing is that you legitimately believe that I said this and now you've convinced your self that I think this! Do you see why I say it's completely pointless to go through this again? The entire foundation your "logic" rests on is far removed from anything I've personally come to see as reality. When was the last time you ASKED someone what they thought, instead of assuming? As a matter of fact, I STARTED this thread with a question to try to learn what the truth might be, where in this thread have you asked one single person what their point of view was? You didn't. Do you see why I feel it's a complete waste of time yet? |
What's even funnier is Nos's blind assertion--as with most his claims here--that my view point holds no clout. Let's see here. In my 1st year of college, I helped create and implement a Race Relations Discussion Forum that is still in existence today. My school was 97% white. We studied and tackled topics ranging from slavery, to intra-racial discrimination.
Apexx...You make valid points. Nos basically resorted to throwing a temper tantrum, further validating what I said. He's uneducated and ignorant about the topic. |
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Good work on the race relations group! And I can't honestly say I came to a different conclusion petaining Nos. I looked at his side of it, and things just didnt' compute at all to reality. They're a perfect math for "theory" though, so I can't be mad at a man who never lived this. He just doen't have the experience to know the reality. |
Keepin up with argument I just have to say that what Nos is doin is revolving around the "it was all in the past" ideal over and over again.
Apexx is stating facts and his own current experiences and all Nos is doing is bringing up the past. We KNOW slavery existed, we're talkin about how white people think its right to make themselves superior over other races, mainly blacks. He constantly is bringin up the "there are more black gangs that are violent than white gangs" argument over and over again aswell. I would have to say that there are more white supremist in the world than african american gang members. There are ENTIRE COUNTRIES that are for white supremecy. It just doesnt add up, AT ALL. The last thing I would like to point out that it seems Nos can't respond intelligently without tryin to insult Apezx or Tha Q or whoever he's arguing with at the moment. Whats up with that shit? |
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why would you get in trouble for saying the truth? that IS the truth. |
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good points and a good question, sir. |
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You guys are so full of shit... Tha Q has a vendetta against me from previous times he compleatly put his foot in his mouth and embarrased himself.. Dude is childish and insecure.. Which is why I will answer his questions, but I dont take him joining the argument seriously.. His opinion holds no clout with me... And Apexx talks a load of crap then tries to come off as the older, more experienced guy.. Your arguing that historical fact is out of touch with reality because your too afriad to admit the truth behind my argument... Apexx, history is history.. I havnt fabricated anything.. And your 'experience' on these issues is letting your emotions on the subject get the better of your judgement... I can see that, but you cant... I mean straight up.. Your point was that racists are everywhere because your neibours MIGHT be closit racists.. Because your female neibour is scared of you (a 6'1 large build rapping cocaine dealer) she MUST be a member of some white racist organisation... Do you not see how blaitantly stupid this is? I mean sure.. Maybe your neibours are racists.. How the fuck does that reflect on ANYBODY other than your neibours you stooge.. You talk about history like you know something I dont... Believe me.. You dont... You have been on this earth for maybe 24-25 years.. Which gives you absolutly no advantage knowledge wise over me when talking about the 1800's and ANYTHING up to around 10 years after your birthdate. I am not giving a one sided account of what happened.. I am giving the true account of what happened.. You are talking shit about how ideally it shouldnt of happened... And I am saying sure.. But that wasnt the mindframe of people back then.... (Talon Ted: I am in no way saying "Ooh its all in the past just forget about it", but I am saying that Apexx's argument lacked a point beyond the emotional views he was giving..) And anti-black gangs... Which was what this thread was about...... C'mon man.. Its not even clear what your trying to prove here either way... I know you would LIKE to think that almost every white person supports these groups... But the simple fact of the matter is.. They fucking dont... You want examples or facts? A white power movement went around New Orleans back when the disaster was in full swing trying to give supplies to only white people... They spent the entire day doing this and guess what.. NOT ONE white person took their supplies.. All day they got told to fuck off because nobody wanted supplies that were given to people selective of race... Now according to your arguments, walking around all day they should of ATLEAST hit ONE racist supportive of their cause.. Why didnt they apexx? Answer me that... .......Why did they not find one racist? Oh yeah.. Because your letting your judgement in this argument become clouded by your emotions.. Racists are NOT everywhere like you would try and have everyone believe.... And your neibours do NOT reflect on the white race as a show that were all a bunch of closit racists... My points arnt even theorys you fucking goon... When you stop trying to put on this big act that you know something I dont.. THEN maybe you can hold an argument that I wont think is fucking retarded... If I was wrong.. I would admit it.. I have in the past.. But you have said absolutly nothing that realistically proves this to be the case. |
You guys really don't get the fact that you mindlessly argue over this shit all the time without ever conceding to the other side ever having a point?
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Once again, Nos
you're still revolving around the past like I previously said We KNOW slavery existed. I dont even understand why you continue to dwell on that? We're not trying to deny slavery or mentioning anything about the past at all. I believe we're talking about here now..today..modern times. That racism still exist in America, hell, all over the world. Why do you keep bringing up "history"? Blah I didnt hear of the shit that was happening during Hurricane Katrina. Some whites was tyring to give supplies to only other whites? There was an article on this? I heard nothing about that. BUT even if they did, I SERIOUSLY SERIOUSLY doubt they would've turned it down. Thats just outright dumb. If you were on the verge of starving and was homeless and someone offered supplies to me I wouldn't care WHO they were from. Lol, I dont believe that story one bit. oh and btw, lmao @ callin Apexx a cocaine dealer. Aww man, if thats not stereotypical, I dont know WHAT is |
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Look.. Dude I got nothin against you.. I understand what your saying, and if I was invalidly doing what your saying I was doing, then you would have a point..... But the argument involves the past because that was part of what the innitial post that sparked this was addressing.. Racism back then and racism now a days are two compleatly different things.. And there is nothing that I've said that is going off topic.. I think your just trying to get involved in an argument that you wernt origionally a part of and your getting it all wrong... And the part about hurricane katrina and the white supremicists? Thats 100% true.. I even saw videos of it happening.. It was on a documentary on white supremicists. Stories like this dont get large scale media coverage because nobody wants to give these guys any form of publicity... BECAUSE the general concensus among white people is that these white supremicists that spread hate and neo-nazi proporganda are stupid ignorant morons that nobody agrees with.. Oh yeah... Apexx claims to be a cocaine dealer.. He has in the past.. And I have no reason to doubt him.. There is nothing steriotypical about that.. I'm just going off what hes said in the past. Now please.. Unless you have something reasonable to say.. Stay out of this... |
i dont like hate crimes and rasicts i just hate them , love someone for there attitude and there insides no there color or shit like that
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lol how you goin tell me to stay out of a racial argument in a public forum? |
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