Originally Posted by Tha Q.

DONE IT as in a TECHNIQUE Apexx...I gave one example. I didn't change my tone or my initial assertion. I clarified it for you so you can feel good enough to continue to discuss things you learned on the Discovery Channel.

I'm not insulting you. I'm telling you the truth.

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Originally Posted by LaTiNKiTTeN

.....this is all u had to say in this entire thread....and again,it does not prove whether there are "ghosts" or not,as neither u or the scientist in question could determine whether the ether that left the body had conciousness or not...............say no more that post speaks for itself and this is precisely what i've been saying all along....

Originally Posted by Tha Q.

P.S. Here's an example of how Apexx argues to ensure he "wins" arguments, even when he is blatantly wrong on some issues.


Apexx says:

This ball to my left is red. Therefore, if this ball to my left is red, then this box to my right is blue.

Someone he's debating with says:
NO. That box on your right is YELLOW.

Apexx says:

NO. You're wrong. The box on the right is blue because the ball on the LEFT is red.

Person says: I don't see the ball on the left as red.


Apexx says: If you don't see the ball on the left as red, then your claim that the box on the right is yellow is WRONG.


^^Setting the rules to his own arguments means I'd have to agree with his points or lose that argument by default.

Clever...but NONSENSE.

Originally Posted by Tha Q.

P.S. Here's an example of how Apexx argues to ensure he "wins" arguments, even when he is blatantly wrong on some issues.


Apexx says:

This ball to my left is red. Therefore, if this ball to my left is red, then this box to my right is blue.

Someone he's debating with says:
NO. That box on your right is YELLOW.

Apexx says:

NO. You're wrong. The box on the right is blue because the ball on the LEFT is red.

Person says: I don't see the ball on the left as red.


Apexx says: If you don't see the ball on the left as red, then your claim that the box on the right is yellow is WRONG.


^^Setting the rules to his own arguments means I'd have to agree with his points or lose that argument by default.

Clever...but NONSENSE.

Originally Posted by Tha Q.

P.S. Here's an example of how Apexx argues to ensure he "wins" arguments, even when he is blatantly wrong on some issues.


Apexx says:

This ball to my left is red. Therefore, if this ball to my left is red, then this box to my right is blue.

Someone he's debating with says:
NO. That box on your right is YELLOW.

Apexx says:

NO. You're wrong. The box on the right is blue because the ball on the LEFT is red.

Person says: I don't see the ball on the left as red.


Apexx says: If you don't see the ball on the left as red, then your claim that the box on the right is yellow is WRONG.


^^Setting the rules to his own arguments means I'd have to agree with his points or lose that argument by default.

Clever...but NONSENSE.

Originally Posted by Dabatos

im not saying that show he is.. but isnt that the best way to win a debate wen u debate against someone by setting it by ur rules first before the other person does so u can win.. i think thats smart to do even if his arguments are wrong.. y loose? lol haha.. imma do that now wen i argue against my mom and want to get something!! oh yea!! thanx apexx! lol

p.s. i sorta understand wut ur saying.. but i think i do?? lol.. if i do hopefully it works :(

Originally Posted by Dabatos

lol but its not basketball =P hahha.. i never sed u sed its wrong lol.. wut i mean by him debating like that is cool cuz i could win arguments against my mom n dad n sis hahaha.. so cool

Originally Posted by Tha Q.

Well, iono who you were referring to when you said, "let other people win arguments" because I never backed down on what I asserted here. And, last I checked, this wasn't an official debate. Him declaring he "won" doesn't mean he "won". THat's asinine. I personally like to discuss lots of issues to consider the possibilities. I don't need to "win" an argument unless I want it that bad.

Originally Posted by Apexx

LMAO, you are a complete clown.

The human soul is made of ether. Right? Right. <--------this is common knowledge. Not a "belief".
show me where the fuck this is in the topic,n who gives a fuck,did i say it wasnt?did i make a thread askin if the soul is made of ether and for someone to prove it?
Ether escapes the body after a person dies right? Right. <--------this is common knowledge. Not a "belief"
ok...,again who cares? is the name of this thread "does ether escape the body after a person dies? no

So we know that the soul is made of ether and escapes the body after you die. We know that ether is an amorpheous gas that has an ion charge, which is also seen in kirlian photography (why do I feel like I'm repeating my self) sa your "aura".
n why are u repeating it,did i ask u to? am i even talkin about this? are u retarded?

What we DON'T know is if that ether that left THOSE bodies in HIS test has a conciousness. That's where his "hypthosesis" of that comes into play. Not on if the soul is made of an ether, or if it's the soul leaving the body. we KNOW it is. we're jsut not aware of its conciousness, if it knows it's a gas, or what.
holy fuck man,it took u 7 pages to FIGURE OUT THATS WHAT THIS THREAD WAS ABOUT???
TO FIND OUT IF PPL HAD EXPERIENCES,ANY "PERSONAL" STORIES ABOUT ENCOUNTERS WHICH LED THEM TO BELIEVE "ETHER" THAT LEAVES THE HUMAN BODY HAS A CONCIOUSNESS?....
because u cant tell me that every single person,many educated ppl,that have had experiences with "ghosts" they are all making up,or their mind is tricking them or whatever else ur reasoning is....granted probably many,or most ppl who had some experiences are either lying or believe they did when they didnt...but ur fuckin dumb ass went n started talkin about shit noone asked u to,n ur thick retarded head just would not get the point of what i asked in this thread n what i've been saying this entire time....

you conveniently seem to keep forgetting that he's far from the only one to do this experiemnt, as I've already said no less than 3 times. You take his ONE experiemnt as to mean "this is what the entire world of science adheres to - his test" when that's far form the truth. so once again...exactly wtf are you talkign about? You're talking about the soul becoming part of space and all sorts of crazy shit, where are you getting this from?
[b]the ether leaving the body does not prove whether or not ghosts exist....how do u know that thats not what a ghost is "physically" just the gas...how do u know that that "ether" doesnt go to heaven n what the Q believes is the truth?....cuz thus far,all u can actually prove is that a ionically charged gas does in fact leave the body....but what more exactly do u know about ether ? nothing....i think u were the one talkin about ether being memories n a bunch of other shit yet it has no consciousness? u completely contradict urself....

Originally Posted by LaTiNKiTTeN

...you are officially the dumbest person on this site.....do u realize u just repeated everything i said,but it took like 5 times as many lines? all u did was paraphrase the entire thing.......
......this is the last time i'm going to TRY to explain to u why u are fuckin retarded....
1.i made a thread askin if ppl believed in "ghosts" and to share their experiences,if any..
2.u came in here talkin about ether,and experiments ,n science and what tricks u played on who,n what books u read ...but the one thing that was RELEVANT,the fact that the ether's consciousness cannot be determined WHICH IS THE WHOLE FUCKIN POINT OF THIS THREAD
of course no science experiment can determine whether they have a consciousness or not...THATS WHY I WAS ASKIN IF ANYONE HAD ANY PERSONAL EXPERIENCES,AND I ASKED FOR PPL'S OPINIONS ON WHETHER THEY BELIEVED IN THEM OR NOT....
in other words for the slower folk,WHETHER THEY BELIEVED "ETHER" HAD A CONSCIOUSNESS OR NOT....since if i say do u believe in ghosts for some reason u are not getting my question so i have to speak in a way so that u understand........
all u had to say was...u dont believe in ghosts,and that all it is is a gas that leaves the body and u dont believe it has a consciousness.....thats it....not all the other bullshit u came in here talkin about.....and u are so stupid u still dont get my point,in every one of ur posts u are talking about something completely different its like u are having a debate with urself...u are talking but not listening(well in this case comprehending what is written)

...just stop talking man...u are not right ,because u arent even getting my question u are just talking about the topic but u are talking about something completely different....go away