no matter how much i want to..i can NEVER forget my roots
without them i wouldnt be standing here

its importnant for everybody ta remember where and what they came from

4 pages of arguing, and yet no one has managed to make a single valid point for your side of the arguemant.

Shit guys, I think you're winning! :whacky:

Agreed, but to invent a word that only your race can use, to remind people of what you went through, a little overboard don't you think?

Feel free to spew more worthless shit in an attempt to put up a counterpoint, and i'll feel free to own the fuck out of you.

yeah you're right, that doesn't mean I would call a white or an latino guy "stupid niggger".

that's just stupid.

Why would you call anyone a "stupid nigger"?

THAT's just stupid.

Jack is a jackass...in all realness. You have no idea wat you're talking bout.so you come on tha net to say shit you get slaughtered for off tha net..how sad homie..that shit aint even coo...just leave it alone..there's a lot of things in this world we don't understand..but shit happens...y r there only white presidents...y don't blacks get equal opportunities as everyone else...and if you say they do you're a mufuckin lie...why is there a liquor store on every corner...shit like that..and I can careless what latinos.asians.etc. Went thru..I'm black so I focus on my peoples suffrage,which remains tha same today

First things first, no I don't get slaughtered for saying this to anyone, because I have already had this discussion many times in classrooms, while just hanging out, etc. with black people present. You see, I present my argument in a less offensive tone, and I recompense by agreeing with certain points while reinforcing my own and bringing up either logical, substantial counterpoints, or logical, substantial new points. Amazingly, there are some black people who are more level headed, mature, and intellectual then you, who won't get bent out of shape when someone doesn’t necessarily agree with them on a certain point. Hey, you should try out not being a retard sometime too.

Dawg, you think that Jews don't get hated on? When was there a Jewish President? Or Prime minister? I'm a Jackass because I say shit that you can't handle? Ok, grow up man, you'll realize one day that you're being immature and ignorant. Now go inform yourself.

Oh but you got one thing right, I am a dick, I’m a fucking asshole, welcome to life, there's more people like me out there, get used to it.

Man you guys really suck at arguing.

You kids are fuckin silly. The word is degrading anyway you say it because it in itself means "ignorant". Therefore saying what's up nigga or what's up nigger are the same thing. You're saying what's up fool. It's a synonym for fool. If its your friend, fool doesn't insult you, if its not your friend it insults you. Since racism was rampant back in the day, every black person was considered ignorant. As a matter of fact if they weren't ignorant they were killed. Yes the smart slaves were killed therefore keeping the ones that werent' not only stupid but afraid to teach there kids for fear they were killing there kids. Therefore ignorant became synonomous with black.

Now that we've gotten thru the root lets get to why it has evolved. The word nigger was the white man's strongest weapon in the fight to keep black people down. So how do you slay an enemy? Start by taking away his strongest weapon. We started by making them call us something else. But since you can't very well control how someone speaks (unless you're the government) the only way to twist it was to change it's meaning. With us saying the word as well, it held no more meaning and no more value. Therefore it stopped being used socially so much. With that word out of the way, the downfall of racism was imminent. But now that that era's over, black people have once again become ignorant enough to let a word effect them so heavily that it invokes discussions such as this one.

It's power is back because people don't deal with their problems the same anymore. The average person would rather be violent then solve a problem any other way. Or just not let a word effect them. If a white person called me ignorant it wouldn't bother me. Nigger doesn't bother me. Because my presence clearly bothers them enough. If i prove to them that words can't move me, the only thing that can is physical force, in which case i can legally beat their ass and not get in trouble, the word's specifyed meaning dissipates.

Now that you know the word, history and how it works on a person psychologically, ask yourself. Does this whole discussion really matter. Shouldn't we all be more focused on saving hip hop.

REAL TALK

I'm black. But don't ever insult blacks dead and alive everywhere by saying our sufferage remains the same. THAT'S BULLSHIT. YOU WILL NEVER SUFFER like anyone who suffered to have us where we are today. Besides that, the vast majority of our own suffering is self induced. Granted racism still exists on highly effecting levels, we also hold ourselves back with certain obvious habiths that i dont think i need to go through, besides that we idolize the wrong people, more black people would rather be a rapper than a professor. Knowledge is power. Stop being weak.

oh and context is nothing, it's all a matter of speaking to the right people, calling a friend stupid gets a laugh, calling a stranger stupid get's your ass handed to you on a silver platter. It's the same context, i mean concept.

Word!!! This sums it up perfectly...Im not even gonna read the 5 pages of replies

so...what if i was to say to one of my black fellows...(even though i wouldn't)

sup n***a in the term of "sup mate"

would i still be talkin to my black chum in a derogitory manner?

but i do agree the 2 "ni**er and n***a" mean different shit...and i'm white...

Me and Black Mage pretty much owned you