Originally Posted by Nostradamus

Ok, point by point.

1) Crack. Here is one perfect circumstance of ignorance towards free will. See YOU say, that black people were given crack so they will inevidibly begin a regressional phase... Neglecting to mention that A: Its the sole decision of the person in question as to whether they decide to sell crack and crack isnt at an all time high right now IF you failed to notice. B: Crack is not selective of race, and it effects a percentage of ALL racial backgrounds living in poverty...

You will argue that for many people, selling crack is a last resort simply to support their family.... Which is in direct relation to poverty and not racism.. See take a look at the situation from the governments perspective buddy.... Here they have a bunch of ghettos all through their country full of violent people that live off the tax payers money, dont work due to a lack of jobs which is a situation CREATED by the fact that not many people from outside these areas actually would ever want to get off their asses and go there BECAUSE THE AREAS ARE VIOLENT AND FULL OF GANGS, CRIME AND DRUGS therefore with no tourism, and many people on welfare the towns become poor, currupted and create what we like to call 'ghettos'...

Which in effect, basically means that the problems you have in the areas you live, are NOT due to an outside force of RACISM, but the fall-out of violent communitys alienating themselves from the rest of the country and therefore creating all the problems they complain about THEMSELVES...

And you still sit here openly admitting that black people pull the racism card to disguise shortcommings on a regular basis...

Tell me.....How the hell is that NOT exactly the fuck what your doing bro?

Originally Posted by Y's

I see people are still tryna prove each other wrong on RV.

Originally Posted by Indeph

Hold up. You randomy mention beatin my ass, and I say don't think about layin a hand on me. And I'm an internet thug. I'm so weakminded to fall for your well thoughout trick to make me ticked off. Oh you sly devil you.

Originally Posted by Indeph

I actually agree with you on mostly all of that. And I'm not a crack dealer so I'm not pulling a race card to excuse any of my actions. I'm pulling the race card for the lack of anything being done. They're either doing shit, but obviously making it alot worse, or not doing anything at all. What I'm doing is trying to influence the government to actually give a fuck. You get what I'm sayin?

Originally Posted by Nostradamus

Well I'm glad your not like socrates who would simply go back, clutch at more straws and try to talk shit to hide his lack of credibility...

I understand compleatly where your comming from... And I think the problems facing black people now a days is more... The need of a positive role model with great influence on the youth and popular culture who will preach to help bring change from the inside out...

This is exactly what Tupac was doing while he was alive... Its a real shame he isnt still around.....

Originally Posted by Status

Ohh shit...do you understand how much of THEQ you sound right there and by THEQ i mean GAY.......WOW.....HE a Fake internet thug and talks like a fag..

Originally Posted by Indeph

Yeah, ha ha. You're so sharp with them witty insults.

Originally Posted by Indeph

That's EXACTLY what I been thinking, but people don't listen for shit.

Originally Posted by Nostradamus

To make people listen, first you have to gain their respect...

And your on the right track.. Music is the single greatest opportunity to gain influence over popular culture in this currant era...

First gain repsect as an authority on the subject, then, and only then.. Will you have the ability to preach the message and be heard...

Originally Posted by Y's

lol @ dephy preching to RV.

*holds fist high* preach to these meaningless fucks, PREACH!!

Originally Posted by Indeph

:cool: *throws up fist and knocks you out*

Originally Posted by Status

LMAO...there goes some more of that internet thug mentality......

Originally Posted by Nostradamus

Excuse me?

Yeah fine.. Get all petty about it then.. But lets take a little history lesson...

Cival war in the united states ended in 1865.. THAT, was the official end of slavery as the social order in the southern states was essentually turned upside down and negro's were not only allowed the vote, but also given the right to actually take revenge on their previous slave masters and around that time people would complain that the punishments handed down to negro offenders for crimes such as murder and rape etc were extremily light and often non-existant.... THIS was back when there was real wide spread racism. I'm sure your familiar with the carpet baggers and the lead up to what we know today as the Klu Klux Klan..

Now, I'm not going to bore you with all the facts about that era because seeing as you act like your some kind of smart ass that actually knows what the fuck hes talking about.. Surly you already know it all. But after the downfall of the popularity of these movements. Racism continued to play a large factor in shaping the social order of the united states for a further 90 years untill around 1960 and 1970 and onward as all the generations that actually were involved in the more racist periods began to basically.... Die off...

Today we live in what would be considered the aftermath of all this. While racism still exists in a far smaller quantity... We live in a society where anybody of any race can actually rise up and become anything they want.. There is no secret force holding people back.. And this has been proven by (as I've said previously) the fact that there are so many negros holding successful careers in everything ranging from law, all forms of media, politics, medicine, science, retail and the list goes on and on and on....

What YOUR getting mixed up with, is thinking that poverty is something that is directed soley towards your race and everyone else is living with fat pockets and sky high opportunity. Which... (better sit down for this one) isnt the case......

And what is the best argument you could come up with?

And I'm sure that in this case.. You would be 100% correct.. But the fact is that this is not a normal situation.. And as I said.. It would only happen in around 5% of cases..

So in closing... Get your head the fuck out of the clouds and realise that the only thing holding ANYBODY back is themselves.. And possibly the lack of money.. But poverty is NOT selective of race so dont EVEN try and pull that card...

Racism is NOT a fairy tale. Racism is real. But we are NOT living in times where it is a defining factor as to why so many black people seem to be getting dogged out... And you've just gone for the most pathetic defence mechanism possible by trying to act like I didnt know what I was talking about..

I THOUGHT you would have known better....

Originally Posted by ~High-Dro~

giving black people money isnt going to give them a history...and im not saying black people dont have a history. You Did.

Originally Posted by Socrates

I was gunna respond until I saw Indeph handled my lightweight. Thanks son. :o

Originally Posted by Socrates

First of all, I don't argue with you anymore if I can help it. You are too fucking retarded to take other opinions, especially mine, into account.

Second of all, Indeph didn't agree with you, he pretended to so you would shut the fuck up. We talk about it on aim a lot. =/

Originally Posted by Nostradamus

Yeah nice try..

But to dissagree with me on this one his views would have to be blaitantly wrong.. You know.. Like yours usually are....

And thats good you try not to argue with me now.. Its a welcome change from following me around this forum and making a complete fuckwhit of yourself every single time.....

Originally Posted by Indeph

How come nobody says I'm on a dope tip?

Originally Posted by Socrates

Cuz you don't agree with them enough.

Originally Posted by Joey Carolina

oh yeah.................well you're gay!!

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Originally Posted by Socrates

I know you are but what am I? :evilgrin:

Originally Posted by Socrates

I know you are but what am I? :evilgrin:

Originally Posted by Young Money

no hate but y do white people think there black just because they hang around us

Originally Posted by Joey Carolina

buttface :mad:

Originally Posted by Joey Carolina

buttface :mad: