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Eh? Only thing I remember saying is "If you have nothing reasonable to say, then keep out of the argument"... |
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you must've edited it cos I swore it said "you wasnt in this argument originally so please stay out of this" maybe Im trippin but I could've sworn thats what it said before I quoted it otherwise I wouldn't quoted it lol nvm it then |
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Really. Thanks for your input. Such a deep statement... Its definitely something that nobody could have done without. Seriously. That comment is probably the make or break of this entire argument, im not even joking. Thank God you came when you did, I fear if you hadnt we would still be arguing back and forth like dumbasses. With your amazing input we are finally able to settle this argument once and for all, its the key. I dont even want to think of what I would be thinking about right now if I hadnt read what you posted. Its a scary thought. My mind would be enshrouded in darkness, I would be devoid of any knowledge, and I am pretty sure I would want to die. Even the grammatical correctness leaves me in awe. Truly a spectacle everyone on RV should learn from. The placement and choice of the words in your post really do add to the impact it has on every single one of us. Have you ever won the nobel prize? Cos for real, I think youre a bit overdue. With remarks of such caliber, I dont even KNOW why you arent famous and rich already. Nobody on RV is as smart as you, and nobody on RV will ever be as smart as you. I am cowering in fear, because the intelligence you displayed in that post was so immense that I wish I was dead. To know that there are people like you around is an eerie thought. Your words will never die. For my entire life I will remember that amazing, mind blowing post. Something like that cannot be easily forgotten. Even if I tried to forget it, I probably wouldnt be able to. It just goes to show that random comments really can have a huge effect on people. Especially comments made by people like you (geniuses). Please, dont even grace me with a reply... I am not worthy to recieve acknowledgement from such a great person. |
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lmao, anything else you want to discuss about me nos? Because the thread has not jack to do with you or me personally, yet you keep brining me up. Your posts just pour on and on about Apexx this and Apexx that and Apexx the other thing, Apexx Apexx Apexx!! It's like talkin to Jan Brady on that "marsha marsha marsha" tip. I'm looking at what you called "facts" while the whole time, you're looking at me.
Your view on "history" as you see it is way in left field man, and when I try to explain to you what the reality is of why things happened the way they did, you write me off as a black guy who's emotional about things that happened against black people - WHICH YOU COMPLETELY ASSUME I AM. You never once consider that I have looked at the other possibilites of why things happened the way they did and came to a conclusion based on that. Once again, I started off asking questions to find out what others thought. You started off making accusations and still are. Add to that, I already stated I respect your point of view, though I dont' agree with it, where as you're more like "if you don't agree with me, you can kiss you my ass you asshole/faggot/dickhead/black person! You only disagree because you don't like me due to these reasons that I've convinced my self of and if you prove me wrong ,I'm gonna ignore you or change the subject!!". You've done more stereotyping and assuming in this thread than anyone else. That's mad uncalled for man, which is why I keep saying that it's pointless trying to discuss it with you. You're far too hardheaded to hear anything but your own opinion and far to blind to see anything other than what you want to see. I experience these things. You theorize about it. Why would I argue about it with someone who evidently has no clue? That's like taking tips on bowling from someone who's never bowled a single frame in their life. I'm not going to (nor am I trying to) change your point of view on anything, so what's the sense? Especially when it's not even the topic of the thread. It's like: ================================================== Effect/Fact: People got killed Cause/WHY: The real reason<---------------------[insert titanic gap here]---------------------->what Nos thinks is the reason. ================================================== Though you're correct on the fact, you're way wrong on the "why" and refuse to hear anything other than what you already assumed, so discussions lead to nowhere. You notice how many peolpe are sharing their experiences with you and you still end up learning nothing?? You simply refuse to listen. Then you mention only the positives of one side (what a coincidence! the side you're on), then when I mention the negatives also on opposite side, you say "but wait, you aren't mentioning all the bad things black people do!" wait...YOU mentioned it to begin with. I didn't mention ANY side of what you're talking about, black OR white, in the negative light OR the positive one, so why is what I'm NOT mentioning a surprise to you when it's got jack to do with shit? I show you the negatives of the exact same issue, and instead of saying "yeah man, that's true too." you IMMEDIATELY go on the defensive and throw a temper tantrum and look for someone to point fingers at. Which is why I stopped trying to explain anything to you. It's just completely pointless and leads nowhere. But keep on calling everyone who disagrees with you more names. You're really driving your point home! You're the angriest man in a thread full of black people discussing racial issues lmao. That should be a MAJOR sign. We're all discussing it calmly and you're on the verge of punching a hole in your monitor holmes lol. You gotta take it slow son. take it sloww-oohhh uhh-ooohhh ooo. Next time you'll take it slow lol |
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Look apexx.. I am not even doing the things you saying I'm doing... You are now making assumptions on my motives and being compleatly arrogant about it.. You are scared to face the fact that I have proved you wrong in this thread.. I have told you why many of the points youve made are simply far from the truth.. And your response is to say that I am being inexperienced and not looking at the issue from all angles.. Which could not be further from the truth... I have no bias on what has happened in history.. But I do understand it. Thats what your argument is lacking.. My opinions on the historical events I have been discussing have, and will continue to be negative towards what happened.. But you insist on trying to mis-read my account as being biased and why? Because I dont sit here and tell you that history could have happened in a different way? What exactly about my argument is wrong.. You tried to address what was wrong in your first post.. Since then you have done nothing but attempt to say I am being naieve and one sided in my arguments because you know there are no flaws in my information... Apexx you are a very confused man.. You havnt even touched on the fact that I have consistantly proven your argument about your neibours to be compleatly un-realistic and even naieve on your part.. Instead you have sat there and questioned my motives for saying what I say as if you are some kind of cat that I am just out to say negative things about.. News flash.. I would say the same thing to anyone showing the blaitant ignorance you have been showing... I am the only one sticking to the argument here.. The reason I got riled up last night especially is because you questioned my knowledge on the subject and gave retarded opinions on each of my points which made absolutly no sense whatsoever and have repeatidly been discrediting them with no response from you beyond "Oh, you just wanna try and prove me wrong.. liek omg man... you dont even care about the arguement you just care about proving me wrong" like a pretencious little princess... I have admitted to being wrong countless times in the past WHEN I'M ACTUALLY WRONG... But untill you actually give a reasonable response that states the reasons why your pathetic arguments are correct and mine are naieve.. Then I am not about to sit here while you act all high and mighty towards me when you know you aint really done jack shit to justify ANY of your obserd arguments... Mother fucker please.... |
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hmm..lemme skim through this and see what's up: I think I know that I know, but I don't really know that I don't know...right... I don't know my own neighbors, you do... You feel your information is "flawless" by your own words... called me some names... You still assume that my responses have anything to do with "me vs. you", rather than "the information"... You asked me the same question that I already answered 4 times... more name calling... ok. No prob man, I respect your point of view. |
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And now its broken down to the point where he tries to pretend I'm blabbering on as a defence mechanism.. Most of what you just said was nonsense... As for the neibours bit.. You know your whole point was that you were trying to tell me because your neibours are closit racists that racists exist everywhere and are compleatly wide spread... And you know I have made you look like an idiot for that.. You need to get a grip on reality... This thread has really given me the impression your definatly not as smart as you make out to be... |
White power rocks...
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ok. No prob man, I respect your point of view. |
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Lmao dooms be illin |
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This guy takes sides because he tried the same shit yesterday and failed... |
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I just thought it was funny. And you're not always right. God nos you're never gonna admit you're wrong because you see every argument as a competition and not a discussion. All you do is analyze the angle we're using against you. I mean come on, please shut the fuck up. It's not worth it. |
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Nah.. Its not about admitting I'm wrong.. Its just that when I argue on this forum.. I dont hold anything back.. And people get their backs up because it makes them feel offended.. I understand this.. And yet...........I dont give a fuck? |
cyber arguments are pointless pshhhhhhh
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Honestly I dont know, However my view is that white people in general have always been accustomed to ruling the world or bein the dominant race, and when some arrogant ones felt challenged by other races, they decided to put us down... however on the case of my race, Black people, we have never felt above them, thats why when we shout black power we do it to show how much we have overcomed and how much we have acheived as a brother and sisterhood...thas why imo |
blah blah blah...I agree with Apexx here... what made me mad is that NOS kept saying "black people ALLOWED themselves to be enslaved" like it was seriously our fault white people took us from out country across the ocean so they'd have cheap ass labor and sold us to their fellow white people like common belongings as furniture out of their homes...NOS, you really need to think before you start spewing off at the fingers dude honestly NOS, are there even many black people where you live? I want some stats on how many black people even live in Australia cuz I have no clue...and don't ever ever EVER again say "full blown racist" cuz racist is racist...if you make a racist comment or joke yes it's classified as being racist but are you? I don't think so...it's just that most jokes like that are based on general stereo-types, not deep rooted pure HATRED of an entire race to answer the real question at hand, I agree with what Apex said about "white power" being more of a statemnt of OVERpowerment as opposed to "black power" being EMpowerment by the way, everyone here needs to see "CRASH" |
There are a fair few black people in australia. But theyre more african than african american. Usually they are the black people that are actually black, or really really dark brown.
But yeah. Black people are treated fine in australia... Middle eastern people are probably treated worse. What with all the aus vs leb riots and terrorism fear and shit. |
Yo OMB i dont live there so i dont know foer sure but if blacks get treated right over there then a film crew musta completely switched it up on one documentary i saw over here for real. They were portrayin segregation as quite a significant issue...no signs in doors/windows kinda shit but yeh. but as i said i dont live in aus so all i can talk about is the way things have been portrayed to the other side of the world
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Btw.. I never said black people let themselves become enslaved.. I just said they wernt advanced enough and they were an easy target... Theres a difference between letting someone over-run you and being over-powered by a stronger force.. Its like an overweight kid in a swimming race against a pro-athelite... Or an amature feather weight boxer against a heavy weight world champ... Nah mean? And there is a difference between full blown racists and your average racist.. See theres a bit of the average racist in almost everyone... Its human nature.. Everybody nit picks at other races at some point in their lives... However not everybody is overly public and holds views that all races except their own should be expelled from their country.. I know I piss people off on this forum by talking like an asshole.. Sometimes I just do it to test reactions for my own amusement.. Other times I argue because I actually have something to say on a subject... But hey... Its just an internet forum... :thumbup: |
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What were they saying? That aboriginees are treated badly? If thats the case.. Then I can almost garentee you it was a project set in place by the aborigional people to try and create the idea that they are hard done by when their not... Back about 60-70 years ago.. They got shitted on a bit here and there cause the general world concensus was a lot different than it is now.. But now a days... You wanna know the real deal? Our government gives them homes, they burn them for as firewood... Our government pays their kids to go to school.. Our government supplies them with dickloads of benefits based on their racial origion to the point where an aborigional girl can become a doctor by scoring 30% under the required test scores while a normal white male who scores 1% under gets pushed under her simply because of his skin pigment.. Aborigionals are given cheaper homes, aborigionals are given land rights left right and center.. They have countless programs to help them out...............They are allowed to use commercial fishing nets while white men have to pay $50000 fee's.. You know whats bullshit about that? IT WAS NOT IN THEIR CULTURE TO USE COMMERCIAL FISHING NETS UNTILL the white culture came to australia. Now their fucking around on mobile phones, driving cars, wearing white men's cloathes, talking in english, living in white mens homes off benefits given to them freely by the white man.. And yet they fight so hard to perpectuate a double standard in society like they are somehow so fucking hard done by... It makes me sick.... If there is a segregation in australian society.. It is NOT our fault believe me... |
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Well thats probably in the country or something... in rural areas. In the city things are fine... But ive been to some smaller towns and some aussies would beat up asians or lebs if they looked at 'em wrong. So its not really just blacks. Shit they even treat me wierd because of my american accent. Its like a wierd version of rednecks. |
Oh yeah and the aboriginals... Theyre just a bunch of lazy fucks really. They have so much opportunity. The ones that really want to be successful can make a living easily... But most of them just sit around drinking cheap liquor and whining about how bad it is for them. If you ask any white australian about aboriginals, theyd probably say.. "oh yeah... fuckin abo's."
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Yeah maybe in smaller towns.. Personally I've never even had problems with lebs.. Most of the lebonese people I've met I've gotton along with... But in sydney its kinda different.. Cause their just all over the place and they try and be hard all the time.. |
so basically Abo's are the Australian version of black people in America lmao seriously, from what NOS and OMB are saying, I see it's almost identical situations |
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Far from it.. African americans are a lot smarter and well intergrated into western culture than aborigionals... And their beef is that they were here first.. We didnt bring them over as slaves... They were jus stone age nomadic tribes and most of em still aint really cottoned on to how things work in western society... |
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Last I heard, Austrailla had a quota on how many minorities they let into their borders in a given year unless you are a "laborer" - what the US would call "day workers" aka someone willing to break their back doing laborious work that you wouldn't. As a matter of fact, lol, they even named this policy the "White Austrailia Policy" which now is a revamped (meaning redjusted quotas and the labor criteria) edition of the ORIGINAL "White Austrailia Policy" from the 60's and 70's. Austrailia is notoriously the most racist country on the globe man. What do you expect from a country that was a prison island for UK filth? I learned this information when my austraillian history teacher told us all about it in middleschool and it's still true today where their population is still 92% white, 7% asian/latino/native american etc. Guess what pecentage of the population is black? 1% That's TODAY btw, not 10 years ago, 20 years ago, 80-90 100 years ago. Today. OBVIOUSLY this effects what is taught in schools, what peoples mental climate is regarding all other races, etc, which is why it's useless discussing anything of race with a born and raised austraillian - And this is what my Aus history teacher told me! That's just what they're taught is right, they don't know any different. It's a way of life that they see as perfectly normal and justified. Google for White Austraila Policy and entertain your self with some global history. I gotta get Nos one of these for his birthday!!  |
I would be interested to know where your getting your statistics from..
The main cities of australia that matter are Melbourne, sydney, ACT, Gold Coast, Perth, Adalaide and brisbane...... All of which are heavily multicultural.. We do have some fairly strict immigration laws.. And why the fuck shouldnt we? Our country is fucking crammed to the shitter with forigners.. You walk through sydney in some parts and there are asians as far as the eye can see... Walk through other parts and there are arabs as far as the eye can see... We also have heavily populated greek and italian communitys and all sorts of European communitys and people living here from all over the world.. The school I went to had people from over 50 different countrys.. They flew about 10 different flags up on the main entrance.... We arnt a population of racists.. Granted there are some parts of australia that are very violent.. For the most part, there are just so many different races here that its hard to create an equilibrium... I mean if you ever go to places like melbourne.. You'll know what I mean... But everyone there is pretty chill about races..... By the way.. I find it real ironic how you think you have knowledge enough to talk about my country right after you made big speeches about how I shouldnt talk facts about america cause I dont live there.. Do you try and be a hippocrit or does it come naturually to you? |
Ok, I've found where you got your info from.. And now tthe cracks in your argument appear... For staters, 1% black is a statistic you made up..
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New Zealand (17.6 per cent) -- Many of which are Maori (which is a dark skinned race) United Kingdom (9.8 per cent) -- To say that there arnt black people in this figure is ludacris.. South Africa (6.4 per cent) -- Which also contains black people. India (5.7 per cent) -- Another dark skinned race. And this isnt even counting the vast amount of the other 150+ different countries that have communitys in australia.. Apexx.. If your going to talk statistics.. Atleast get them right... |
WHITE POWER
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fight some more.... white people are fighters but muy thai fighters would kill a american fighter
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lmao, the difference between you and me is you're talking out of pinholes found all over your ass. I'm talking about a policy that your country created, accepted, and enforced. What I'm talking about is on the books, what you're talking about is in your mind. But I noticed you made no denial of the fact that there was and still is a White Austrailia Policy or found flaw in anything that I said here, yet instead (what a surprise!) you focus on ME. AGAIN! Quote:
This comin from the guy who looks like he's trying out for the sequel to Broke Back Mountain, the story of gay Horse Jockeys.  Quote:
Yet another Nos assumption. As usual my friend, you assumed WRONG. What's REALLY funny about why you're wrong this time is because I already told you exactly where I got my information, but who's surprised that you didn't listen? Once again for the ignorant, here's where I got the stats: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Australia_policy And here's what it says: Quote:
Wow, look at that, the information you ASSumed was 4-5 years old is ACTUALLY 3-DAYS old. As always, there's a huge rift between actuality...and what nos thinks. You're hopelessly ignorant kid. |
^^Aiyo Apexx, did you see Brokeback Moutain?
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No, I cant say that I have. |
appexxy who r u?
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Apexx.. You are a dumbass.. You are trying to say aborigionals are the only black people in australia... :laugh: How could you be so fucking ignorant as to label that figure as black people when you know it was called aborigionals on the document you read... And futher more you know there are so many other dark skinned races living here appart from aborigionals.. You are so hoplessly stupid.. Dude why do you even try? Your consistantly making a fool of yourself every time you try and prove something I have said wrong... It happened with the neibours story you bullshitted with, it happened when you tried to argue against historical fact letting your own personal views get in the way of what really went down.. Then trying to pass it off as me just giving one side of the story.. It even happened every time you acted like a faggot little princess trying to say I'm only arguing on topics to prove you wrong... You fucking retard.. YOU ARE BEING AN IDIOT... I am simply arguing the dumb points another poster has made and he wont let it go because he has a complex which makes him think the world revolves around him and he cant be wrong.. Dude you NEED to get a grip on reality.. Why would I make a denial of the white australia immigration polecy either? Its there, I have said its justified.. And thats not because I was brought up to think that way.. Thats because we are a majority that is looking out for ourselves.. Just like your country.. Except our polecys are far less sinister.. :thumbup: And your figures include rural and desert areas.. Where nobody from oveaseas would come to live... There are ofcourse more black aborigional communitys in those areas, but the over-all populations in these smaller towns is white.. I'm talking about the cities.. You know.. Where the real population exists... Those figures may at first seem small (and they also leave out a lot) but the populations your talking here are very condensed and they all live in areas inner-city.. So lets re-cap for your stupid ass... Yes, there is a white australia polecy looking out for the interests of the majoritys job's and way of life from immigrants.. Your being naieve in trying to say it isnt justified... That 1% figure your throwing around is making you look stupid... If you have any intelligence in that thick skull of yours you'll stop using it.. It doesent prove you right at all.. It proves you are being ignorant.. And finally.. Apexx.. You need to realise your not smart.. You are a google fiend... You spout off facts from all these websites you find and pretend that you know what your talking about.. But as I've said in the past.. Your not a thinker... And although you can pretend to look smart with your search engines to a bunch of other fools.. That shit doesent work on me... Now why dont you just run along and play you little girl.. |
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lmao, why am I gonna argue with you holmes. nobody agrees with you and you still talk about me in your entire posts. I been talking about the 1/4 assed info you keep swearing to. What ever you say man lmao. You got it. |
Bruz.. You got nothin on me...
Go crawl into a corner and die... You misquoted statistics and you still wanna try and have some dignity.. Dont make me laugh... |
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