oh, now i see why you wanna hate on 2v, because you are a homo. as i've been trying to tell you for over a month now, i wish you would just come out of the closet and take a raping from me with a smile :) :hump:

When god, the creator, becomes a chemical, that is in all living things, and bonds all living things together,

then the only thing different, the only 'exception', is the fact that God becomes a chemical.

=o

and whether or not God becomes a chemical, Spinoza still predicted absolutely everything you're talking about.

In other words, when you publicly release your 'philosophy' under self proclaimed 'religion', it will be regarded widely as Pantheism, and furthermore, it will higher raise Spinoza's name in history, and yours will become an attribute.

This is how philosophy works.

Painful not being very new at all, hm?

All it took to come up with your idea was to have 300 year old concepts of the universe and reading a freaking book on the drug DMT.

so.. you want to... rape me?

and you have a picture with your shirt off in your sig...

and uh...

im homo?

Lol.. i've met more girl in tokyo then you've met in your life bud

I am fully aware of what Spinozism is and I have done a lot of studying on this prior to ever discussing it with you.

Spinozism is a branch of Monism, it's a monist philosophy. Monism states that the universe, as a whole, is what "God" consists of. The religious/spiritual aspect of my philosophy does not believe that the Universe as a whole is what God cosists of, but that God consists of a specific physical self with branches of that specific physical self subsiding in a specific point inside all things living as a whole. That is to say that not even all living things as a whole are what God consists of, but only the "soul" within these living things (which is only one specific portion) is a branch of a form which is what consists of. Therefore the religious/spiritual aspect of my philosophy cannot be considered a branch of monism or a monist philosophy.

Regarding Spinozism, spinozism states that God is self-subsisent. This would mean that God lives through anything external to itself. My God does not live through anything external to itself, it only lives through it's one specific form of self and that self also consists of branches of itself which live through the soul in all forms of life external to itself. Thus to say that a blade of grass would not not be part of God, but only the DMT within the blade of grass is a part of God.

Also the more psychological part of Spinozism and less spiritual aspect claims that we posses three levels of intelligence, and that one of these levels: intuition, is the highest level we are abble to concieve. The psychological aspect of my philosophy differs from this as I believe the highest level of intelligence is achieved through a new level of conciousness yet to be experienced but has been discovered and is atainable through DMT.

Also bud, Spinoza preached karma. I don't believe in Karma, and I don't believe what goes around comes around. That whole one action affects the entire outcome of the universe type shit. I just moved my headphones an inch to the side. Say I didn't, I'd finish typing this a second earlier, watch my movie and go to bed a second earlier and then wake up at the same exact time I would have anyways cuz my alarm clock is set. That move had no effect on what happens in my future and the future of everything else in the Universe. But Spinoza would STRONGLY disagree. Like he said, he's all about the butterfly effect. Everything is a wave in an ocean and each wave affects the outcome of the other wave.

FURHTERMORE, I do not believe that everything happens for a reason or that the universe is determistic as Spinoza taught.

So holy fuck me, there's a lot more "EXCEPTS" then just that one except you stated.

But lets just agree to disagree.

I believe I know my shit and you believe you know my shit better then me and we'll leave it at that.

you don't know your shit because you don't explain it, and when you do explain it, it doesn't make any form of fucking sense.

Intuition means the perception of truth.

'OHHHHH DMT GIVES US A NEW LEVEL OF CONSCIOUSNESS AND WHEN WE REACH IT WE CAN PERCEIVE THE TRUTH.'

=o

reverse back to your first paragraph, monism is its own branch, pantheism is its own branch, sometimes they correlate. Also, Spinoza's determinism strictly means that the universe could have happened NO OTHER WAY. Everything happened perfectly in Spinoza's eyes, so saying that everything happens for a reason is Spinoza's determinism is way off buddy.

And frankly, I fail to see how a guy who is not loaded on the drug he praises so fucking highly, 100% of the time that he spends alive, is supposed to be defending attaining a higher consciousness on the drug.

I believe your mentality in regards to DMT is comparable to the cult "Heaven's Gate" and their mentality regarding the comet that fucking hit them and killed them all.

Sure they can preach the heck out of it, but how can a person preach riding a comet to heaven if they aren't riding a comet to heaven? It's easy,

just make a bunch of shit up and believe it.

goodnight.

Because I read a book about the clinical studies conducted on the drug as well as read peoples own accounts of their experience on the drug, and I watched many Terrence Mckenna seminars.

Spinozism believed the universe could have happened no other way. Exactly what I was implying by everything happens for a reason as it is all part of one big plan that leads to one specific thing. I don't believe that and neither does my philosophy.

And intuition means the ability to think for ourselves by assumig the results of actions. Spinoza believes this to be the highest form of intelligence. I don't believe it to be. You don't necassarily need DMT to achieve a new level of conciousness, practioners of Yoga (real yoga, not the stretching shit, but the meditation) are able to reach new levels of conciousness which are now regarded by science as official levels of conciousness that were not known to us prior. But they believe as I do that there is still another level or maybe a couple or a few levels of conciousness left to be discovered. It is beyond our capacity, for now, to understand. Maybe one day human intelligence will discover this new level of conciousness, and that is the highest form of intelligence.

We can agree to disagree.

I believe what I believe, you don't. Other people might not agree with me, and then again, I'm sure some will. It's what you get out of it.

Goodnight.

good going J

you got 2v all pissed off...


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