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whitelightning 02-07-04 09:30 PM

Man...This is my 1000th post...

Fuck you for being stupid...

Jay-Z appeals to a group that your hurb ass isn't included in...

Your Fired From Life.

G. Buttersworth 02-08-04 05:31 AM

"all of the hustler's love it, just to see one of us make it".

this is one of the illest Emcees to do it. if you do your research.. Jay is one of the first dudes spittin about "Hood money". since 96 he's been spitin about.. enjoying a expensive bottle of champagne on a yacht, surronded by beautiful women.. and blunt smoke.

that where the talking bout money aspect comes from.

if your from shit... and you come up to be... a ceo of a mutli-million dollar company... part owner of a basketball franchise.. and you speak.. just like the average street kid... theres something about that.. that makes his music so dope... and real.
it's not always about the lyrics.

jay is the greatest in the game right now.

and i'm tired of seeing 15yo kids ... coming in here thinking they can call someone wack.if they're so wack... why don't you bless the world with something better.

oh, i forgot.. you don't do audio. stupid fucks.

90Milez 02-08-04 07:33 PM

Lets Summarize this fuckin topic... cuz these niggas up in here hate to much

***Album sells DO NOT tell anything about an artists talent

***Nelly better than Jay, I wont even bother on this...

***Jay on Biggies dick... No not really he said himself "Im strong enough to carry biggie smalls on my back, and the whole BK nigga holla back"

***If u make a topic hatin on him, must mean he's a big deal

***He definetly has the streets behind him, and thats all that matters being thats where he came from.

PERIOD.

Holmes Jr. 02-08-04 07:40 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by whitelightning
Man...This is my 1000th post...

Fuck you for being stupid...

Jay-Z appeals to a group that your hurb ass isn't included in...

Your Fired From Life.
your fired from life AHAHAHAH thats fuckin comedy...and i totally agree wiv wat your sayin dog

JUST BLAZE 02-08-04 07:56 PM

first of all jay is the greatest breathin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
gunna xl i hope you not suprised for getting banned after u said that shit.
damn boy u need to listen to lyrics more. and why would you want to wait every
2 years 4 a album when you can make money faster doing it every year. think boy.
reagardless of how much his albums sell he is still 1 of the riches in the business.
thats all i got to say

holla 1

Brethren 02-08-04 08:51 PM

I like a lot of Jay-Z's newer stuff (his past like 2-3 CD's) He drops stuff you can relate to. Like Opey said in the beginning, eminem's white, white suburban kids buy his shit. Nelly also has more appeal to that same group.

Daz 02-08-04 09:14 PM

I like jay-z and as and artist he's pretty nice..he can appeal to all groups it seems to me

Holmes Jr. 02-08-04 11:50 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Brethren
I like a lot of Jay-Z's newer stuff (his past like 2-3 CD's) He drops stuff you can relate to. Like Opey said in the beginning, eminem's white, white suburban kids buy his shit. Nelly also has more appeal to that same group.
ay i aint no white muh fucka but i got no problem wit em man..

Asphyxiation 02-09-04 12:07 AM

Jay-Z? No.

H to the izz-O, V to the izz-shut the fuck up. A possession of lyrical skill, a grasp of ebonics, some corny aliases, and subject matter that scarcely has any depth does not make you "the greatest breathin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!".

He has talent, albeit misapplied. He's above average.

Orpheus Rex 02-09-04 12:21 AM

Stop Hating On Jay...

He's Got Flow, And Better Wordplay Then Most Rappers Out There...

If He Was Undergound, You Guys Might Feel Differently About Him...

Asphyxiation 02-09-04 12:30 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Orpheus Rex
Stop Hating On Jay...

He's Got Flow, And Better Wordplay Then Most Rappers Out There...

If He Was Undergound, You Guys Might Feel Differently About Him...

As I said, he's above average, but so commercial it hurts. And his gimmick is so ruthlessly played.

Orpheus Rex 02-09-04 12:37 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Asphyxiation
As I said, he's above average, but so commercial it hurts. And his gimmick is so ruthlessly played.

What Is The Line That Divides Commercial And Underground Anyway...?

And Whats His Gimmick...?

Asphyxiation 02-09-04 12:58 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Orpheus Rex
What Is The Line That Divides Commercial And Underground Anyway...?

That's not digital. It's not either commercial or underground. Mainstream isn't synonymous to "commercial". And it's a pretty good indicator of commerciality when you feature Pharrell/appear on MTV at least once every hour/have the verbal equivalent of an annoying ditty in a lot of your songs.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Orpheus Rex
And Whats His Gimmick...?

Pimping, being from the streets and misc.

Soul-Full 02-09-04 01:02 AM

Vote - opey

Jay built a dynasty from a piece of shit DefJam contract. He has pretty much broken away from DefJam and Rocafella is almost as powerfull as one of the main Record labels. Dude deserves every ounce of respect he gets. The fact that he HAS put out that many albums should make u think about it.

And to say 17 million records is nothing..Just for that you should get smacked. Thats 17 million more than you will ever put out.

1

Asphyxiation 02-09-04 01:06 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Soul-Full
Vote - opey

Jay built a dynasty from a piece of shit DefJam contract. He has pretty much broken away from DefJam and Rocafella is almost as powerfull as one of the main Record labels. Dude deserves every ounce of respect he gets. The fact that he HAS put out that many albums should make u think about it.

And to say 17 million records is nothing..Just for that you should get smacked. Thats 17 million more than you will ever put out.

1

You could use the same argument to argue for 50 Cent. It still doesn't necessarily mean that he isn't mediocre.


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