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JTR 04-02-07 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Tha .Q
No...you simply restated my postulation with different terminology.

Example:

I said..."It's obvious that human representation of God can be skewed."

You restated it: "It could be..."

Adding "can be" in place of COULD BE is the same thing bro.





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I didnt add "can be" in the place of COULD BE I added COULD BE in back of "obvious"

Get it yet?

Sir Smash'Alot 04-02-07 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by GESTURES
From what I hear Cuba isn't all that bad as us Americans make it, Everyone gets equal pay so there is no rich or poor, free electricty, housing, water, medicaid...

You dont know anybody from cuba :thumbup:

There is NOTHING positive about cuba, unless ur a communist.

Everybody else has to do illegal shit to live, half way decent

Look around your city, find the shittiest looking houses/apartments, thats ur average.

∆ P E X X 04-02-07 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ...Voke...
ummm, yes he did, i'm starting to believe you've maybe picked up the bible once
one of his most famous metas is about himself when he says "I am" which is also the name for God.

more?
"I am the bread of life."
"I am the light of the world."
"I am the gate."
"I am the vine, you are the branches."

i could go on, but yes he did he also used Similes but most famously parables.
tons of them in the bible...half understanding? there right there in text...

so you believe "god's" name is "i am"? roflmao i think you are blurring the line between the "god" you believe in and the man you're still calling "jesus".

add to that, the man you call "jesus" never ever ever EVER put anyone beneath him, he was the most humble being at his time, on a level of ghandi, buddha, martain luther king, mother theresa and so on, so why would he state that anyone should be subserviant to him? that anyone is beneath him and should idolize him?

you follow any quote anyone says jesus told you without applying any logic. just going "duuhhh...okay.." lemme guess, you also believe "jesus" was a white man born in africa with long flowing hair right? lmao, you do know the bible says long hair is dishonorable on a man because it is feminine correct? yet you still pray to images of a long haired white man who you believe is "jesus". a lie perpetrated by your own faith. .....you do know that right?

of course you dont you fool. you're a highlight reader. and on that note, unlike most of the people you'll meet in your life, i read the bible from one cover to the next. you've seen bits and pieces and
want to speak as an authority, ive seen the entirety and beyond and speak humbily... for the most part, lol

Sir Smash'Alot 04-02-07 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ∆ P E X X
so you believe "god's" name is "i am"? roflmao i think you are blurring the line between the "god" you believe in and the man you're still calling "jesus".

add to that, the man you call "jesus" never ever ever EVER put anyone beneath him, he was the most humble being at his time, on a level of ghandi, buddha, martain luther king, mother theresa and so on, so why would he state that anyone should be subserviant to him? that anyone is beneath him and should idolize him?

you follow any quote anyone says jesus told you without applying any logic. just going "duuhhh...okay.." lemme guess, you also believe "jesus" was a white man born in africa with long flowing hair right? lmao, you do know the bible says long hair is dishonorable on a man because it is feminine correct? yet you still pray to images of a long haired white man who you believe is "jesus". a lie perpetrated by your own faith. .....you do know that right?

of course you dont you fool. you're a highlight reader. and on that note, unlike most of the people you'll meet in your life, i read the bible from one cover to the next. you've seen bits and pieces and
want to speak as an authority, ive seen the entirety and beyond and speak humbily... for the most part, lol

actually jesus was in the middle east

so he was probly arabian, tanned color

and who knows how jesus had his hair looking? But yah we have no idea probly because of the romans

everybody messed with our bible and its all corrupted..
and jesus didnt tell you to be his servant, he died for us, told us that if we accepted him, are sins would be forgiven.

Not.. Be my bitch or go to hell.

∆ P E X X 04-02-07 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ...Voke...
you do understand that many gnostic texts have no christian teaching behind it...meaning if christian "took" their teachings as their own why is there no evidence leading to many of the teachings to the gnostic religion. because it was a religion. you could connect it more to monks and their beliefs...
i know what your talking about but once again that group like i said before could be a muslium saying hey he was only another moses.
but yes Gamaliel is in the bible matter of fact look up Acts 22 chapter 3 but it never says how much he influenced him.

dude this shit is so rediculous its not even worth arguing man. once again man, just read up dude. learn some real history, instead of relying on one garbage source for all your knowledge.

youre entire book of beliefs takes chunks of other beliefs and forces them all together, then say that the source is lying! and you just swallow the whole things down man no questions asked.
there's not one original statement in the bible except for the lies used to glue the whole thing together man.

like i said, till you know what "jesus"'s real name is, you can't possibly have an informed discussion with me.


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...Voke... 04-02-07 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ∆ P E X X
so you believe "god's" name is "i am"? roflmao i think you are blurring the line between the "god" you believe in and the man you're still calling "jesus".

add to that, the man you call "jesus" never ever ever EVER put anyone beneath him, he was the most humble being at his time, on a level of ghandi, buddha, martain luther king, mother theresa and so on, so why would he state that anyone should be subserviant to him? that anyone is beneath him and should idolize him?

you follow any quote anyone says jesus told you without applying any logic. just going "duuhhh...okay.." lemme guess, you also believe "jesus" was a white man born in africa with long flowing hair right? lmao, you do know the bible says long hair is dishonorable on a man because it is feminine correct? yet you still pray to images of a long haired white man who you believe is "jesus". a lie perpetrated by your own faith. .....you do know that right?
of course you dont you fool. you're a highlight reader. and on that note, unlike most of the people you'll meet in your life, i read the bible from one cover to the next. you've seen bits and pieces and
want to speak as an authority, ive seen the entirety and beyond and speak humbily... for the most part, lol


firstly i've so far havent said anything like "lmao you still believe etc etc " so dont come at me like that. no i dont, in truth i've never prayed to the man made image of Christ. plus my thinking would be if hes in the middle east he wouldnt be white.
and no one told me the metas i just posted, its in the text in the bible, try checking one of the pages between those two covers.bits and pieces? i've studied almost every major "book" from different faiths even studied the Greek Bible, which in truth does the bible more justice, because of how its worded because of their language. i dont believe you have truly read the bible, maybe glanced at it because then you would of seen those statements and would say at least a "yeah he did say that"
but gotta go...nice debate, no hard feelings just my beliefs.

Sir Smash'Alot 04-02-07 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ∆ P E X X
dude this shit is so rediculous its not even worth arguing man. once again man, just read up dude. learn some real history, instead of relying on one garbage source for all your knowledge.

youre entire book of beliefs takes chunks of other beliefs and forces them all together, then say that the source is lying! and you just swallow the whole things down man no questions asked.
there's not one original statement in the bible except for the lies used to glue the whole thing together man.

like i said, till you know what "jesus"'s real name is, you can't possibly have an informed discussion with me.


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Its a branch of Judaism, and only judaism
Christianity is close to islam, but then again, unless we can ever find out which son abraham took to sacrafice, we will never know which is right... No proof of which one it is, the bible now has names, but it didnt before. but I will go with christianity because Islam's idea of afterlife and other things are pretty stupid. If Judaism is right, well.. We will all be in hell for a while anyways, depending on how bad we lived. So id rather be on the right track anyways

...Voke... 04-02-07 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Sir Smash'Alot
actually jesus was in the middle east

so he was probly arabian, tanned color

and who knows how jesus had his hair looking? But yah we have no idea probly because of the romans

everybody messed with our bible and its all corrupted..
and jesus didnt tell you to be his servant, he died for us, told us that if we accepted him, are sins would be forgiven.

Not.. Be my bitch or go to hell.


truth, at the last part. he basically said your are not my servents but my friends because i've shared my words with you and a master never shares with his servents.

∆ P E X X 04-02-07 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Sir Smash'Alot
actually jesus was in the middle east

so he was probly arabian, tanned color


and who knows how jesus had his hair looking? But yah we have no idea probly because of the romans

everybody messed with our bible and its all corrupted..
and jesus didnt tell you to be his servant, he died for us, told us that if we accepted him, are sins would be forgiven.

Not.. Be my bitch or go to hell.

no, arabians TODAY are tanned color. AFTER the integration of the caucasians in north africa. 2000+ years ago, it wasnt that way.

and its evident "jesus" didn't have his hair that way. a black man, (nor arabic man) can not grow long feminine hair. furl-like hair unable to curl is a trait of the whiteman.

btw, the quotes "vokes" listed reinforce exactly that "be my bitch or go to a place we call hell" mentality. that's him believing that nonsense. not me.

btw, if the man you keep calling "jesus" died for your sins, then why can you sin today?


please man, if someone's gonna debate it with me man, be informed man. have a clue man, a connection to the past. dont think that what the world is like today it's always been that way. that would be a great start. learn what "jesus" real name was. learn what the enuma elish is. the gilgamesh epics. an eloheem. learn what gnosticism is. who nimrod is. who sargon is.

and 3 years from now, we can have an open an level discussion about this.

thanks again.

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Sir Smash'Alot 04-02-07 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ∆ P E X X
no, arabians TODAY are tanned color. AFTER the integration of the caucasians in north africa. 2000+ years ago, it wasnt that way.

and its evident "jesus" didn't have his hair that way. a black man, (nor arabic man) can not grow long feminine hair. furl-like hair unable to curl is a trait of the whiteman.

btw, the quotes "vokes" listed reinforce exactly that "be my bitch or go to a place we call hell" mentality. that's him believing that nonsense. not me.

btw, if the man you keep calling "jesus" died for your sins, then why can you sin today?


please man, if someone's gonna debate it with me man, be informed man. have a clue man, a connection to the past. dont think that what the world is like today it's always been that way. that would be a great start. learn what "jesus" real name was. learn what the enuma elish is. the gilgamesh epics. an eloheem. learn what gnosticism is. who nimrod is. who sargon is.

and 3 years from now, we can have an open an level discussion about this.

thanks again.

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God expects that, not the man we call jesus. Jesus is the son of God..

AND WHO CARES WHAT JESUS LOOKED LIKE? IS IT THAT IMPORTANT? DOES RACE MEAN THAT MUCH TO U? If I went to heaven, and met jesus, and he looked like Rick James, I honestly would not care, I dont pray to a statue of a man, I pray to Jesus. I dont say, alright, all the black jesuses get away, i want the one with girl hair and white skin


Why can we sin today? God gave us free will, thats not like when jesus dies he just takes it away from us, it just means that now if we sin, we dont have to sacrafice something for it, we just gotta accept jesus and confess.

∆ P E X X 04-02-07 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ...Voke...
i dont believe you have truly read the bible, maybe glanced at it because then you would of seen those statements and would say at least a "yeah he did say that"
but gotta go...nice debate, no hard feelings just my beliefs.

no. someone told you he said that and you believe he said that. based on his mentality, he would have never said that.

that's the entire point.

and if your faith is willing to lie to you about something as arbitrary as his image, what makes you think that's all?
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Originally Posted by Sir Smash'Alot
Its a branch of Judaism, and only judaism
Christianity is close to islam, but then again, unless we can ever find out which son abraham took to sacrafice, we will never know which is right... No proof of which one it is, the bible now has names, but it didnt before. but I will go with christianity because Islam's idea of afterlife and other things are pretty stupid. If Judaism is right, well.. We will all be in hell for a while anyways, depending on how bad we lived. So id rather be on the right track anyways

nope. islaam and christianity's concepts of heaven and hell are equally are rediculous. of course, you favor one over the other because you're conditioned to believe it more than anything else.

both their heavens speak only of physical feelings. if you're dead, and a soul, how can you have a PHYSICAL sensation at all? same applies for hell, they speak of pain and all that but pain is a sensation of a physical body with nerves and skin. a soul is not a physical body so how could it have physical sensations?

if that were the case, there's no difference between being dead and being alive.

again man, religion is a fools game. knowledge is a gods game.

who do you want to be?

Sir Smash'Alot 04-02-07 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ∆ P E X X
both their heavens speak only of physical feelings. if you're dead, and a soul, how can you have a PHYSICAL sensation at all? same applies for hell, they speak of pain and all that but pain is a sensation of a physical body with nerves and skin. a soul is not a physical body so how could it have physical sensations?

if that were the case, there's no difference between being dead and being alive.

again man, religion is a fools game. knowledge is a gods game.

who do you want to be?


The bible says we get a new body when we go to heaven, and I honestly have no idea about if u go to hell.. Im pretty sure the idea is "your soul" in another body, as if you had simply switched over to another

and soul? Whats soul? There is no scientific theorys, or facts, or any kind of backing to decide what a soul is.. But im going on what we both have basically assumed what a soul is, just like you have

∆ P E X X 04-02-07 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Sir Smash'Alot
Why can we sin today? God gave us free will, thats not like when jesus dies he just takes it away from us, it just means that now if we sin, we dont have to sacrafice something for it, we just gotta accept jesus and confess.


but jesus died for your sins didnt he? so if he did, how can you sin? if you can sin then....things really aren't any different today are they??

jesus died for what....your quote unquote "original sin"? lmao thats fuckin hillarious. so to guilt you into this belief, youre told that you sinned before you were even born lmao. a sin is an action, and you havne't evne done anything, so how could you have sinned in the womb?? lmao

oh wait..because Eve had her period right? lmao cmon man, i know better than to believe in a religion that tells me a womans fulfillment of her biological function is a sin. when religion was the only "science" (aka, when beliefs were considered facts) we were taught that a womans period is a result of her sinning and that's why she has pain during labor. now we know that without her period, she'd never be able to reproduce in the first place - or for that matter, even be able to go into labor!!. without her period, she would never release an egg. infact.. a woman's period is a result of her going through puberty to become a woman!! sooo...... how is fulfilling your bio-logical purpose a sin.

smh.. if you believe in that "original sin" shit you take too much "magic" as science man.

∆ P E X X 04-02-07 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Sir Smash'Alot
The bible says we get a new body when we go to heaven, and I honestly have no idea about if u go to hell.. Im pretty sure the idea is "your soul" in another body, as if you had simply switched over to another


lmao, really?? where does it say that?
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and soul? Whats soul? There is no scientific theorys, or facts, or any kind of backing to decide what a soul is.. But im going on what we both have basically assumed what a soul is, just like you have

lol actually, thats not true. there is scientific studies on what the soul is, where it is in your body, when it leaves the body, and so on, and a measured difference in your weight the moment you breathe your last breath. but... you just choose not to believe it. you prefer to believe in magic lol.

Tha .Q 04-02-07 07:50 PM

wow @ the amount of Misinformation about Jesus and Christianity in this thread.







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