^I think it's about looking at both sides, like...

You kind of make it seem like if I had all the options and extra's growing up in the hood. Hell no, I was born poor as the next guy in the hood. I had to deal with the same situations as those you are refering to. I had to watch my day walk out on responsiblity, I had to watch my mom juice the system. I had to be responsible for myself and brothers at the age of 13. I had to overcome and endure the very same scenerios you describe in your post. No one stepped in to help me, guide me, or even care about me. I never once looked down on anyone. I never once condemend anyone for thier status. All I have ever done is motivate people to do something positive about their situation. I would rather see someone taking pride in themself, doing things to change thier status. I have in my short tenure in life done countless act to promote the movement of my people and that of all youth. I am active in every aspect of educating our youth. My essays and writtings all reflect that of the struggle our youth are going through. So please assume I have this superiority complex and could care less about the little guy. I have done more in my 20+ years of life than most have done in a lifetime. I contribute to every youth intervention program on the West coast, either by funds generated through my company or by guest speaking. I am active on the college campuses from UCLA to UCSC, in hopes to guide a misdirected youth. I have recieved several awards and accolades for my work with children in not only my community. My daughters school asked me to sit on the board of advisers because of my passion to promote the education of our youth. So when you say why don't I bring other up with me, I just laugh. I have done so much for eveyone who knows me, grew up with me or needed my help. I would never forget where I come from, it's obvious you don't know me, cuz other people here could tell you, that you are wrong about me. I car deeply for our society and our people. Come on I sacrifice myself everytime I go out to support our troops. I do not have to work in this field, but like I have said before, I fell it's my duty to this country and the security of our children. I could make more money working at a commercial company, but that's not my ambition. I want to do something positive for this country on a very high level. I have contributed to the overall security of the Country and it's people for over six years now. I love thei country and the people in it, so you must have me figured out all wrong. I am not blindly siding with the powers that be, I am only supporting the leadership of this country in the area's of national security and homeland defense. I am in a much better position than you are to judge the overall threat to our way of life in this country. I am not saying that those programs you are working for are not important or even significant. I am just trying to tell you that without a country, those programs are useless. If we allow our national defense to compramised any further then more harm is going to be done to our people than any of the cuts you are refering to. Would you rather a stable and free country or one that is under arrest from within? The minute some nation threatens your home your loved ones and your way of life you will understand. I know you may feel that is impossible, but in reality that is a very real and valid concern. If you sat in on the threat managment matrix or nationAL seciurty counsel for just a month, you would rethink your position. We are vulneralbe in so many areas of defense, it's crazy to move forward in a world that is careening towards unrest. You need to stop trying to slam me, and pull the wool from your eye's.

Again everyone is equipped with the necessary basics to sustain a productive life, why not use them. I know everyone situations is different, but my whole point is that is is becoming the norm. It's the norm to just give a shit about your life and blame the system. Please that is such a negative and destruction ideology, I just want to reach people and tell them not to give up. Stand up and do something positive for yourself! So where is your arguement even valid? I thought not....

who, would fight for their country, i see everyone talkin shit on America, and some supporting it, but who would really fight for the states???



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^You know I would give my life for this country and it's people!

^^^Would you fight for other countries like you are asking them to do for you?

Canada good shit c section


Bitches

I have supported international efforts with the same urgency I have for domestic efforts. So yes. I would stand and fight for any country wishing to obtain freedom for it's people. Who am I to sit here and rejoyce in my own freedom without having the decency to help other nations secure thier very own. If Canada or Mexico was invaded next week you can be sure that I would deploy and do everything possible to support our troops engaged in combat with those invaders... I would not even have to consider it!

i second what bounce says, any country that diserves and has that right to be free, should be, if invaded, i would help them with out hesitation, by my life or death i will serve my people and the people who diserve the right to live



"most who die, should have lived,..." qoute by ancient philosipher



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I have two opinions that are at odds with each other. The first being this; if you live here and enjoy the same freedoms as everyone else, then you should fight and die for your country, if asked. Reaping all the benefits without having to be involved with the dirty work is just plain ungrateful. However, there are times when the war is questionable. So really it's not "would you fight if we were invaded?", the question should be "would you fight for this country if you were drafted and disagreed with the war in the first place. THAT to me is the true sign of a patriot, dying for a country when you don't agree with its politics at the moment. Giving your life without question, its so patriotic its blasphemous.

wow, yall suddenly up and not care any more??? one last ?, do any of you people really support out country, i know bounce does, for sure, but even if you dissagree with bush and his administration, do you still support them , i mean, that is very honorable, to support or fight or even die for your country, even if you dissagree with the administration... any of yall do that????



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damn over 200 posts.........gangstah

yall canadians are crack heads....all u people do is sit back, drink, and get high...have u thought of your future lately??? u canadians are STUPID!!

This coming from a guy who knows absolutly nothing about Canada........Wow we can drink and get high(carry 5 ounces i bleieve of weed and not get in trouble :) )...............but did you happen to think that Canada's education and health care system destroys the american system by far...........

And to the naive Amerians who say that they have bailed Canada out in hard times....??? Give me an example..................because we are a peaceful country we are not hated in the world.....last march i went to Italy.......first day i was there i had people getting angry when they thought i was american..........once i said nah im from Canada they immediatly changed there opinion....stating Canada has a nice country and nice friendly people..............

Maybe jus maybe....if america didnt go around showing there dominance as a Political and War jugernaut they wouldn't be as hated.........

Also do you know how much resourses that is sent to America from Canada alone? Guess where most of your wood, water, oil(untill you steal it from iraq) and other natural resources come from....? you guessed it Canada

So please if your not knowledgable of the topic....don't comment

Re: Whats it mean to you ???
 

what are u tryin to say, if there was someone from the middle east accessing this website they would get shot on sight?
what teh crap people who live there are allowed to "rap" or write "poetry" dont fuckin judge countries by what u seen on tv.....
u do realize taliban is gone from afghanistan now.....
and as for rapping in other countries, welll pretty much i think
all countries allow some form of music, and writing your own
thoughts are accepted everywhere, so please dont be so ignorant

ummmm...

^freepost^

already seen this pic............................................... .........in another thread

i know... me and chrit have posted just about EVERY pic on the web sooo.... nothin really has any shock value anymore :( its worth a try tho!

thats 13 numbers... 2 too many... god damn

MR. Legend was banned for no reason so he has dropped out of the convo

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^^Yeah maybe Bush had you banned legend, but I am sure you are already looking into that, right?

Well it's been a while people, but seems that nothing has changed, at least in this thread. I hit this back up later...

no one has any comments, or new arguments to start...

fine i shall start another question...


if, from what everyone says, american has so many limitaions on its freedoms, why have so many fought and died for it, and to preserve what (supposedly) little rights we have... ya cant just say the the ones who have fallen that they were brained washed by the goverment... gotta be some logic behind it....


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i live in australia, so i shouldnt give half a fuck... but i do because our leader (john howard) is just lyk george bush, with three differences:

1. howard is licking george bush's and the UK's queens anal passages

2. Howard supports bombs, yet he cant afford any, so hes on bush's dick

3. howard has big eyebrows

besides those differences, australia is pretty much the same. Everything is censored, we cant take weed, coke, heroi, E or any drug legally, we are shipped to war without choice in a crisis and are fined $500 for spitting in a park... so yeh... freedom is wrongly named.... netherlands is a cool country, u can smoke weed legally there

sounds like howard knows his way around pretty damn good....

Ok I'm back you cockawoaches...lol
We keep talkin about Americas Freedoms lets break it down to specifics ok.
Let's start with freedom of speech
We got freedom of speech, but tell an officer or a judge fuck you and see how free you are after that. You couldn't get free from the choke hold, or the holding cell.

The powers that be take those freedoms away from us...

It's all a fake facade, it's new communism, you wonder why the poor stay poor, and the rich stay rich. Same thing in communism

And if you don't see that shit your brainwashed...

I had a coupla homies come back from the military talking that brainwashed bullshit...

How you think they feel now? Some of their homies dead, no weapons of mass destruction. They don't give a fuck about the Iraqi people. What have the Iraqi people done for them, some of them killed Americans a few months back, but you never know cause they all look the same right.

Then you hear some bull shit like Rumsfield's defunct construction company, just got a billion dollar contract to rebuild Iraq.

WOW WHAT A COINKII DINK!!!

Same principle here, I doubt there are any millionaire soildiers ou t there. Most of them boys was just tryin to dip in right quick to get some college dough. The rich used them to aquire more money. Then they tell you, Oh yeah YOUR FIGHTING FOR YOUR COUNTRY! "yeah cause we BELIEVE, they was gonna get us"
Bush is Gangsta, he plays like it's just coincidence that he's in the oil business, and he just took over an oil rich country. Shit just like on the street, if you got the manpower, you can take over any territory you want...to recieve more profit. Only the strong survive.

Holla at'cha boy

yo america is real lucky when u think about it some countries are dirt poor and dont even have clean water. u should count your blessings.

holla

Most countries don't have clean water 'cuz America polluted it with DU and other toxic shit. Funny thing is, in Iraq (pre-occupation) education "was" FREE, health care "was" FREE, women could do anything they wanted they weren't suppressed (like they are in Saudi Arabia which is our ally) there were NO taxes all you had to do was leave Saddam alone and you'd be fine. Granted Saddam was fuked up, but sounds almost like Iraq was MORE FREE then America. Fuked up huh?

get your facts stright you fucking dumbass.... open your vision to both sides of the story, not the one thats being cramed down your throat..... if you can back up any of your points with reliable info id be surprise, quit lookin at it from a revisionist view, for real veiw you need to look at both traditional and revisionist....

do something with your life read a book maybe if your illiterate ass gets ambitious you can read two. Use your computer for something besides porn fukhead.

you need more? that is if the "internet" can be "TRUSTED".

i am canadian and if for some reason i had to leave the country and never come back i would probably move to europe or the south pacific before moving to the states

The States is whack man. Just because the US is powerful doesnt mean thas a good thing, they just bully the weak countries. The countries that actually could put up a fight with tha US, the US tries makin peace with them... Bush's a bitch. I mean for fuck sakes you have 2 actors as govenors now... One barely speaks English. If I had to leave Canada I'd jump to Cuba or Mexico...

^ Thats the US mentality from the get go. You can either be with us OR against us. Sound familiar?...uh maybe ADOLF HITLER! Who are we to impose our culture on other people? That's not true freedom now is it?

yo fuck you, you rasis bitch we live here and you are complaning you want to complain bitch take your ass back to were you came from
we have brought everything and we r the best country, so fuck all rasis motha fucka's i aint rasis but i hate dunb ass herbs
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werd...
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bitch you wouldn't be on the internet right now if it wasnt for americans bitch ya'll need to think about what you saying b4 you say it freal i mean half ya'll cats live in the boonie's and just say the shit you do to be cool fucking herbs
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america is the dopest?????

look i aint got nothing wrong with any country in the world but dont say america is the best

YOU CANNOT SAY THAT TILL YOU LIVE IN EVERY 5630 COUNTRIES ON THIS FUCKING PLANET AND SPENDING ATLEAST 20 YEARS IN EACH OF EM

so thats bull

u never live in other countries so u cant say america's best

LISTENING TO WHAT U HEAR FROM THE NEWS ABOUT OTHER COUNTRIES IS BULLSHIT, news only shows the negative parts about a Country

and America is the greatest, right? y? cuz dey make everyone on living in the East look like cannibals and all that shit??/
or is it cuz yall bombed Hiroshima?

or is it cuz america likes to take control over another country and make themselves boss and force em to change their rules and shit???/

thats y they're so great?

if they are why is England's currency worth a lot more than the US?
lololololol


this is the way i see it

EVERY COUNTry got its BAD SIDES and GOOD SIDES, there is no best country in my opinion

i wud agree wit the fact there's a lot u can do in this country, but with that means its ez to fuck yer life up quick

shiit, even Jamaica got lotta freedom like da US so america aint the only country that got that kinda shit

thats my 2 cents on this topic

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Whats it mean to you, now that suddam has been "captured"??? do you think they have had him for awhile??? what are your thoughts on what should happen to him??? do you think that putting him in prison would cause more terrorism, and worse???... or if he is put to death, do you think he will become a martor???

Why the fuck did you up this?

well..he started the thread and found a new use for it..can't ahte him for saving forum space...o i think they had sadaam...and nwo he won't nbe a martyr, martyr for who?..number one, the us has no claim to him, he'll be extridited to khazakstan where he'll die when he gets off the plan..he killed a million kurds in a bloddy border war..they get first dibs, and they will kill him, comign off the plane, guarantee