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Logic The Goonie 02-12-06 03:54 AM

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Originally Posted by L. Veracity
paying reperations won't "increase knowledge"...it'll just give more black people eXcuses to do, be and say stupid ass shit that they can blame on white people...I'm by no means African American but I AM black and personally, I hate when black people are on that "white people did this, white people did that" type shit...if you want to be viewed as a viable asset to our society as a whole then do something with your life and PROVE to the "white man" that you're a viable member of society and quit complaining...

yes you're gonna have to work twice as hard, and if you're a female, eve harder than that...but when you make it, you'll know that you accomplished way more than your white counterparts...be satisfied with what you've done, not the recognition for what you've done

quit blaming white people cuz every nigga in the 'hood thinks the only ways he can get out is playin' basketball or rapping...blame yourselves for who and what you idolize...white people didn't tell you that you who your role model should be, the values your parents set in place determimne how you view life

blame your parents when your knee gets blown out and you can't go to college cuz all your high school coaches only cared about you playing ball and getting their career wins up and let your grades slide by continuously passing you when they know you never did your class work...don't blame shit on anyone but yourself, quit putting it on white people, ESPECIALLY when they had nothing to do with anything...I'm so sick of all this "white people should pay" shit...I'd never deny that SOMe white people are racist and want to keep other races down but don't act like SOME white people don't look down on other races too, racism is a 2 way street and we're ALL collectively walking up and down it in both directions

When I say it will increase knowledge, it's because the government isn't gunna just pay out reparations, if they did, it would be long and drawn out and more people would know about WHY it would be happening and WHAT actually happened back then then there are now.

What you're doing is trying to make it too personal. It isn't all based on individuals, it's based on groups. You're trying to put it like every single person within a group has to do such and such and it will be okay when in fact, it has to be the group united on a common goal. I don't blame white people for anything in my life other than the fact that my history is low and my people are shunned. I know what I have to do to be successful but that doesn't mean everyone does. What about the crackbabies and rape children and all those other people who don't GET the chance to have parents who know wtf they're talking about? And what if my parents don't really explain to me what kinda shit is going on? I know I can find out on my own, but when you're 18 and just finding out, it's too hard to try and pull out. Then, I can blame my parents for not teaching me, or the foundations of it all, and for good reason, I wouldn't blame my parents. I would blame the foundation because I never know if my parents were in my shoes as well.

You're just what the racists want, I hope you know that. Telling your own people to shut the fuck up and blame eachother and themselves if they can't get anywhere, when sometimes it's just not possible. You're what makes people wanna say, "Fuck it, I can't do shit unless I work my ass off in a racist place, so what's the point?"

But whatever, i'm tired and some of this wasn't fully explained, but go ahead and respond so I can make you look retarded when I get back on.

La Cosa Nostra 02-12-06 03:55 AM

Theres so many black people who hold respectable jobs and make real large contributions to society as a whole.. Theres black politions, black business owners, black lawyers, black doctors, black police, black teachers, high paid black actors, etc etc.

Man its jus a lot of cats think the whole worlds against em cause they live in the ghetto... There are white people living in ghettos too with the exact same problems... So whats the difference...

Thats what I wanna know.... It aint jus black people getting dogged out.. Its ALL poor people.. And untill cats open their eyes up to this theres always gonna be people from minoritys out there that jus think theres STILL big plans to eradicate them from the face of the earth.........

Logic The Goonie 02-12-06 03:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Nostradamus
Theres so many black people who hold respectable jobs and make real large contributions to society as a whole.. Theres black politions, black business owners, black lawyers, black doctors, black police, black teachers, high paid black actors, etc etc.

Man its jus a lot of cats think the whole worlds against em cause they live in the ghetto... There are white people living in ghettos too with the exact same problems... So whats the difference...

Thats what I wanna know.... It aint jus black people getting dogged out.. Its ALL poor people.. And untill cats open their eyes up to this theres always gonna be people from minoritys out there that jus think theres STILL big plans to eradicate them from the face of the earth.........

The difference is in those other ghettos, people aren't judged from the fucking moment they are born as being a fuckin race and automatically fit in some sort of category that can never change because the skin color they have is different.

L. Veracity 02-12-06 04:02 AM

some of the most successful black people in the world have come from some of the most adverse ciscumstances you can imagine...Maya angelous was raped when she was younger and I believe she was also a prostitute at a point...Oprah was poor as hell, and raped when she was younger...she's down in history as the 1st self-made black female BILLionaire...don't ever say you "can't" do this because of one reason or another, if you want it, you'll work for it...yes, some white people get handed kushy jobs and don't have to work their way up a company cuz someone in their family owns some shit but black people that own shit do the SAME thing...nothing is impossible and when you don't succeed it's always easier to blame someone else and you're circumstances aren't always your fault but you gotta fight to get what and where you want in life...when you get lemons, you make lemonade...would people really appreciate shit if they didn't have to work for it? no...they'd let go and wouldn't care because they wouldn't appreciate shit...you think if Oprah grew up rich and never worked to get where she is, that she'd make life better for other people in bad situations and help them, you think she'd wake up and pray thanking GOD everyday for what he's allowed her to accomplish? HELL NO...I've never once heard her say that the way some white people are prevented her from doing or becoming what she wanted...if you don't succeed, it IS your fault


(to your post directly above this)

everyone is judged from the time they are born and beyond..nah scratch that, from BEFORE they're born...you are 1st judged by your race cuz your parents are already here, but as an individual you are first judged on your gender...that's the first category you are put into and judged from there...EVERYONE is judged, not just people from a certain class or race

Germ 02-12-06 04:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Will S.Unyu
how come ALL black people dont try to rap then? Cos ALOT of black people like rap and they dont ALL try to rap and take it to the extreme like white people do. Thats the funny part.

ok, now to answer your question

Sayin racist comments doesn't really make you racist. Aslong as you dont act upon those comments. White people have a history of um, lets say 500 years of acting upon their racist comments. Thats why when a white person says something racist, it makes them racist, but when a black person say something racist, its justified.


i just have to say....not ALL white people who like rap try to rap, lol, fuck, i like rap....i don't try very hard at all, word

uhmm, i guess i'll ask a question

might've been done before here, but, i don't understand the whole 'n' word thing, its stupid when black people do it too, and even gayer when white people do it (you know, with white homies and shit)....like, just some elaboration

Valor 02-12-06 04:07 AM

Damnit theres no more questions i can ask! :(
homos

La Cosa Nostra 02-12-06 04:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Socrates
The difference is in those other ghettos, people aren't judged from the fucking moment they are born as being a fuckin race and automatically fit in some sort of category that can never change because the skin color they have is different.

Negative.

Black people arnt judged by their skin color. They are judged just like everyone else. By the way they act, the way they dress and the way they talk.

Skin color doesent hinder anybody. But black people raised in ghettos get taught to speak with slang, act rough and dress like thugs.. And it has nothing to do with white people holding them back...

If someone born in that situation went and bought some respectable looking cloathes, fixed their way of talking and carried themselves in a different mannor.. Provided they had the brains, they could go anywhere with their lives...

And dont act like its just a black problem too.. Theres poor white people who cant get a job cause of those same reasons too... Welcome to the concept of poverty bro...

It aint about skin color anymore.. Thats a BIG misconception...

Compose 02-12-06 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Too E Zee
Word But Still Yo I Know Everybody Can Get At Least 50 Dollars For Some New Balance Or Something

...what balance you talkin about? i dont get no money till christmas and birthday

Incineratedrose 02-12-06 11:19 AM

Uhh... Why have EVER jehoavas witness ive seen, the ones that come to your door.. every one has been black..

Indeph 02-12-06 11:22 AM

L veracity seems like the type of black girl that's ashamed of her race to the point where she turns into an uncle rukkus, and she feels like its okay for HER to judge black people because she's black. Just because you're black it doesn't mean you can judge all of us like that.

Indeph 02-12-06 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by My Sharona
Uhh... Why have EVER jehoavas witness ive seen, the ones that come to your door.. every one has been black..



Because jehovas have white fever and wanna see how it looks inside a real life white person's house.

Incineratedrose 02-12-06 11:30 AM

Rofl, gotcha. Well, i usually just part ways with them at the door.

Uhm..

Why are black people so rude? Lol.. Its like, i was at Peter Piper Pizza yesterday, and i run into a black dude on accident, and he FREAKS on me.. "THE FUCK?!".. im like "uhh, sorry".. then im just hanging out playing games.. and these black dudes are just running through like BOOKING it, just trying to catch each other... and they just smash into me, and keep going, they didnt even care! Ive had that at school too, they dont even care whos around them, theyll just smash into people and not even care.. then you do it to them, and they freak.

Yeah.

Magic5 02-12-06 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Indeph
L veracity seems like the type of black girl that's ashamed of her race to the point where she turns into an uncle rukkus, and she feels like its okay for HER to judge black people because she's black. Just because you're black it doesn't mean you can judge all of us like that.


And so if a black person doesn't say "Yeah, the white man is trying to hold us down" they're considered a traitor to their race? Maybe that's where the fucking problem is, dude.

She didn't judge anybody, you need to reread her post or something.

Indeph 02-12-06 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Mimesis
And so if a black person doesn't say "Yeah, the white man is trying to hold us down" they're considered a traitor to their race? Maybe that's where the fucking problem is, dude.

She didn't judge anybody, you need to reread her post or something.



That's where I think people mess up at. People never can keep a good balance of what is their fault and what isn't. People are either blaiming EVERYTHING wrong with their lives on the government or they're just being naive to the obvious drawbacks their race has been given. I don't blaim shit on white people, if you really listen to what I'm always sayin, its the black people's fault. And reperations don't come out of your pockets, it comes from the government. If they can spend all this money on wars and shit I think they can help us out. You get what I'm sayin?

L. Veracity 02-12-06 01:47 PM

didn't I say a fellow black person wouldn't appreciate wht I said? lmao...don't be mad cuz I'm not on that "woe is me, the WHITE man did this, the WHITe man did that" type shit...like I said, blame yourself for you short-comings, not someone of another race...if you fail, yes someone else might've had something to do with it but ultimately, it's YOUR fault...there ARE some white people that are just out to keep the black man down, but people too often generaliZe and blame the white man for everything going wrong in their lives and that's when it's NOT okay...just cuz I don't say stuff against white people doesn't mean that I don't realiZe some white people are racist, but black people are racist too...as I said before

"racism is a 2 way street and we're ALL collectively walking up and down it in both directions"



(to Indeph's post above this)

aiight, I can agree that there are certain drawbacks you have immediately been given, being black...I acknowledge and accept that but not as an excuse to do bad, it should be the reason we do BETTER...repirations won't fix the way white people view black people, they'll just think we're lazy and want a hand out which would bring how far we've come on the fronts of "equality" backwards...

far as spending money on wars, of course there's better things we could spend money on, the school system is where money should be going...up until this year I thought school was free for everybody then I started talking to my home girl in Chicago and one in Indiana, they have to pay like a G a year to RENT text books every year that they don't get to take home, they pay to RENT a class set of books...I've always been led to believe that everyone has it like we did in New york and here in Texas, you only pay for a book if you lose or damage it...but that's not the case...schools up there are making people pay for books they can only 1/2 use and then school end up in debt, where's the money going? certainly not to the students' education...now THAT you can "blame" on the white man, then again parents can change shit if they fuss and complain, that's how all change starts, you gotta make people AWARE of what's going on...you can put that on the white man's hand if you choose to be again, it's ultimately your fault if you didn't say anything to change the situation it's always gonna stay the same or get worse for people that come after you


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