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SONIC 07-27-04 12:42 PM

Why do white people try to rap? like DON
 
This may be coming from a racially motivated argument from another thread, but why..
I've noticed that every art form black people create it is always being modified or changed by white people..

R&B, hip hop, jazz, and almost everything else.. but a lot of them still hold on to racial beliefes. you have white the where baggy clothes, try to rap, live in the inner city, speak slang, but some how are still racist in the thoughts that, they are some how superior. I've also noticed that most racist are illiterate and ignorant.. DON on here for example was arguing with me about some irrelevant shit ON HIS OWN FUCKIN BIRTHDAY, LOL, but almost every comment that he wrote had horrible grammer and mis-spelling.. also his facts on history seemed like they were just made up, he was totally inaccurate on the account of even his own history.. in other words, i laughed at his expense for an hour because the kids just an idiot..it seems today people, that America is sadly lost.. Blacks are gonna soon have to all act white, coz the culture that we come up with gets imitated and then they MODIFY and change the history of our culture, attributing it to some other source.. obviously Blacks are Americas trend setters, and it's all good. but the main point is, is that how can you teach a chinese man born and raised in china, how to use chop sticks?.. how can a white man, change my culture, or even judge how i practice an art that i created ? like DON, the wigger/wanna be Roman... the italian rapper, lol.. Can someone logically answer my question..
why white people just got interested coz of eminem.. how ya'll lie sometimes and say that hip hop didn't come from blacks. why is it commercialized now.. why is this site full of whack white teens.. no racist shit involved, i'm just being blunt.. would anyone like to touch this with a ten foot pole?

KroNuz 07-27-04 12:44 PM

lol most white kids rap better than you.. dont hate.... on not eve talking eminem... atmosphere.. eyedea..... mad katz better than you ... n some black aritist.... beasties boyz are white and they were out back in the day..... and rap didnt turn into what it is until run dmc did it..... so blah to you on this topic

KroNuz 07-27-04 12:45 PM

and white people were doing this shit before eminem came out.. you just talking outta ya ass

SONIC 07-27-04 12:49 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by KroNuz
lol most white kids rap better than you.. dont hate.... on not eve talking eminem... atmosphere.. eyedea..... mad katz better than you ... n some black aritist.... beasties boyz are white and they were out back in the day..... and rap didnt turn into what it is until run dmc did it..... so blah to you on this topic


you don't get the topic.. why, why do they rap good? why do they rap? why don't I sing operah? is it coz they like our style, the music, our culture, why does it get changed around, why? fuck eyedea and them, that ain't the point.
why don't americans use chop sticks? it don't make sense to me, that some everything that we do is tooken away in some form, why?
like DON, you have the whackest white boys in world with deals..
DON,Eminem, etc.. yet they are all racist.. and whack.. why?

SONIC 07-27-04 12:50 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by KroNuz
and white people were doing this shit before eminem came out.. you just talking outta ya ass


forget it, don't respond to me then. you got upset too fast...

DON 07-27-04 12:50 PM

damn this boy dont have a life hes still on here i dont rap kid and its not only for blaks its for other ppl too thats why eminem was jus as succesful as tupac it jus shows people dont wana hear shit about murdering cause the music is changing and white people r bringin the change not blaks

Ca'lam 07-27-04 01:01 PM

kronuz lmao.. there are WAY more black rappers who have skillz than white.. the majority are black.. like 70-80 percent... just wanted to point that out since you pointed outhow many white one there were... and eminem has skillz i admit that... but hes only half as marketable as he is now because hes a white rebel and that apeals to people... royce da 5'9 ate eminem up in there freestyle session lol... and he aint even known that well in the media and shit.. hes pretty much underground... and how you know they better then truth ?...you heard truth spit some ish ?.. who says he might be dropping he writtens on here ?.. never underestimate no body.. freestyling only gets you so far.. and i totally agree with this topic.. all these people on here who wnna be hip hoppers but try to change it.. stretched lines and everything,... its almost annoying.. cause other people who are equally as ignorant to what rap is SUPPOsed to be vote for the crap lol... bleh.. aight im done :thumbup:

by the way.. i love white girls -_- ... :D

DON 07-27-04 01:03 PM

white people r the future of hiphop like it or not no changin that next marketable image is gona be the italian gangster and if not itll be another white guy cause we r jus that good

MoTiF 07-27-04 01:04 PM

I hate to burt your Bubble...But rap formed from Rock When you break it down..Which if you wanna be racial was "created" By White "Poeple".Next time learn your facts before you Try and Be Smart.

~MoTiF

DON 07-27-04 01:05 PM

^kid is right walk this way from aerosmith listen to that and try and tell him hes wrong

Ca'lam 07-27-04 01:05 PM

ROFL I DIDNT EVEN READE WHAT DON SAID
wholy shit your stupid LMAO......ROFL..... eminem talks about NOTHIng but mnurder.. wow your stair up retarded.. you better eidt that post or your gonna get flamed in this thread LMAO HAHAH... eminem hasent said ONE thing that was CLOSE to pacs intelligence OR political awareness.. eminem raps about nothing but killing, his mom poppin pills, him getting his girl knocked up, ja rule, and drinking... you cant be sane................... im not speaking on this whole Blacks made rap shit.. even we did... i dont give a shit about that.. its just how you said white people were changing the game rofl.. beastie boys were aiiight.. they were borderline between rap/rappish rock..
youve had 2 popular white rappers/rapgroups.. thas it basically.. eminem hasent changed shit rofl.. and he aint trying to.. wow i cant belive you said something liek that lol.... go to school man

Ca'lam 07-27-04 01:06 PM

motif rock formed from african beats.. as did ALL of AMERICANIZED music. fir was jazz (us), then rock formed from that.. so .. hate you shut you down, but... i did..

DON 07-27-04 01:06 PM

and blacks only rhyme about 40's bitches and blunts and murder. really thats all they say and about how hard they have it. that is all they ever talk about ever

KroNuz 07-27-04 01:07 PM

And if you wanted to bring it down to rhyming.. first poets were white...

Poppa Kap 07-27-04 01:08 PM

I thought one of beauties of hip hop was the fact it didnt matter what you looked like or where u came from.

<--white, suburban & happy with that. My view could be bias coz im one those "white teens" but hip hop isnt set way to live. Look what hip hop stars wore like 20 years back compared to now...totally different. As for the baggy jeans they are influenced through the skater scene because tight fitting jeans are hard to move around in but at the same time are strong material that cope with the rips & tears you get when you skate. So dont think hip hop means baggy jeans, talking street & being black.

However I do agree with u...i have friends that love hip hop yet they wont hesitate to throw racial words around which makes them seem stupid...these types of arguments go no where...I just think if u dont like these white boys rappin dont come to sites like these because u wil deal with it...sit back & just watch the occasional white rapper on TV & just accept how things are.

KroNuz 07-27-04 01:08 PM

lol don your stupid.. you took that from steve burman on the skit on the eminem cd.. lol

Ca'lam 07-27-04 01:08 PM

again.. europeans came and stole our culture... so first white poets.. no they were african sir.... chants and sounds and music.. all african.. goes bak to before we were slaves,.. anything you'd like to say before i shut you down more ?

DON 07-27-04 01:08 PM

true first poets where white and rock didnt come from african beats ur way off rock came from big band music which didnt have anythign to do wit african beats

Poppa Kap 07-27-04 01:08 PM

Kronuz where is ur proof to that poet statement?

Ca'lam 07-27-04 01:09 PM

ROFL^^ if you guys didnt use african beat such as drums and shit.. all music is based on african beats... are you ok ?.. even music people admit that... ALL music was.. thats a given fact.. you cant change that

DON 07-27-04 01:10 PM

yeah u have no proof chanting isnt poetry man if u wanan go bak that far white cavemen had the earliest form of poetry i saw it the other night on pbs whoch also said that the newest evidence states that the oldest man came from northeastern russia

DON 07-27-04 01:11 PM

no africans werent even the first to make drums u cant claim that cavemen had drums indians who had never seen a black man had drums THINK

MoTiF 07-27-04 01:12 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by calamity
ROFL^^ if you guys didnt use african beat such as drums and shit.. all music is based on african beats... are you ok ?.. even music people admit that... ALL music was.. thats a given fact.. you cant change that



Actaully English folk music took there drums from Native Americans...That led to faster Music which one day Lead to 30's Pop then Rock.

~MoTiF

DON 07-27-04 01:12 PM

^motif is a smart man and also correct

Ca'lam 07-27-04 01:12 PM

wtf do you think poetry i sbased off of.. again.. i am not racis.. my gal is a mut... but everything americans have done muscially, is based on a african foundation... its facts.. you cant change them.. chants DO rhyme.. they had songs.. music..

Ca'lam 07-27-04 01:13 PM

And the rest of the worl stole it from Africans.. Don.. dont comment.. you are being shut down everytime you post rofl

DON 07-27-04 01:14 PM

can we really call hiphop music though if u think about it in a way it is music but its more like poetry cause now any 4'th grade dropout who can rhyme is a musician musicians were people who could sing and create music from thier voice rap is talking and yelling to a rhythem isnt that more liek poetry, now frank sinatra is music even rock stars sing

Poppa Kap 07-27-04 01:15 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by calamity
again.. europeans came and stole our culture... so first white poets.. no they were african sir.... chants and sounds and music.. all african.. goes bak to before we were slaves,.. anything you'd like to say before i shut you down more ?


we?<--stuff like that bugs me...dont disrespect ur beloved ancestors for talking like its ur pain. You do not suffer, you only suffer the boring facts in ur history lessons.

DON 07-27-04 01:15 PM

nobobdy is bein shutdown boy dont turn this into a personal argument cause i dodnt do text battles anymore but i could always go bak to the old way and whoop ur ass all over this thread

Ca'lam 07-27-04 01:15 PM

hip hop is music... you have singers in hip hop... now RAP is different.. thats poetry spit to a rythem... nelly sings - mob deep dont....

MoTiF 07-27-04 01:16 PM

You make no sense...Africa was Populated when the Land Bridge was formed during the Begging of the Planet.Drums Make no sense Africans didnt create Drums there is no proof of that.Native Americans had Drums which were used by Folk Bands..They also used a Willow Poll with strings on them which lead to a Guitar we have now.

~MoTiF

Poppa Kap 07-27-04 01:16 PM

& did I read somewhere DON has a deal...?

Ca'lam 07-27-04 01:16 PM

rofl... don you dont want none.. cause if this gets personal.. you'l lose.. seriously...

DON 07-27-04 01:17 PM

no that young colored girl on the piano i forget the name that is music nelly couldnt sing. black epopel used to be good back in the 70's and 60's and even 80's till their next generation changed their image and music

Ca'lam 07-27-04 01:19 PM

rofl................... thats your opinion.. now you got girl likes avril lavene and brittany spears.. so uhh music as a whole has gone downhill.. dont point us out... you guys have rqually fucked it up... you sound mad racist son.. and alicia keys is good.. most the singers are black that are good rofl.. so umm..... yea

DON 07-27-04 01:19 PM

yeah apo u heard rite i do a lota people on here do contrary to wat calamity says other black epople are looking forward to changin their music and creating a new image that white kids can be and broaden hip hops ability to reach other kids who dont listen to it

Ca'lam 07-27-04 01:20 PM

and im not including country music... only in hip/rap/singer/ genre

DON 07-27-04 01:20 PM

yeah thats wat i said black singers are good and brittany spears can sing she didnt bring anything downhill now avrile no defendin her shes fucked up anyway she can slit her wrist but also im italian calamity

Ca'lam 07-27-04 01:21 PM

thats not chaning anything.. you dont see a bunch of eminems runnin round in the game do you ? no.. he changed HIS style.. not the industry

MoTiF 07-27-04 01:21 PM

This thread should be Closed due to lack of Any Brain cell's used.Cal your blabbering on About God knows what when your Completly wrong.

~MoTiF


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