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The End 09-10-03 09:53 PM

N-Demik vs. Understatement
 
Round 2

15 Line Min.
25 Line Max.

Check In: Monday, September 15th.

Due: Saturday, September 20th.


Topic: A Hidden Joy

N-Demik 09-11-03 09:21 PM

W"o0o0o0ooo0o0o0o0o0................................ .............................Yeah Yeah.............................................. ......Period.

I Guess Im Here And Ready........

Good Luck To Mr.Understatement............This Should Be A Great Round...... :p

Maven 09-11-03 10:25 PM

lol
why B? why? dammit.
=/

I can already feel my ass being kicked.
Well, good luck Demik.
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N-Demik 09-16-03 11:18 PM

Bleh Yeah...Whatever...Good Luck In Rd.3 Bro... :)

Its like learning to walk, then talk back, Persians learning to steal
From any person at will, harbour Lemming morality determined to kill
First to the meal, sweet sustenance born upon vision sumbliminally
Instead, inner desire is the wildfire torching ego pedestals..terminally?
Its being heard in the street..by... Chaplin performers...Its torture
The forthcoming contorsion through Tycoons augmenting a fortune
...Okay, so my diatribe irony does nothing for poetic justification
If anything... call this buoyant bitterness a comical erasure...
A reinactment of enslavement propelled wandering through baron corridoors
Or like the omniscient commodore seeing even more, yonder off-course
Even beyond the remorse reflected in the glass thats looking back
Missing the crooked back, but no giving back to the image looking back
But he isn't looking back...In fact thats the freeze frame forever seen
from your broken parents dream, as your grubby nails unpicked the seams
...Okay, so we all enjoy copious ordeal revealed on faces in the crowd
Unborn pals or blind eye apparents, tormented souls or impulsive foes
The motion woes pleasure with pain, approves descension from gain
There is a little tyrant inside of us all... trying to escape!!!!!!
Piloting to guide the vanity stimuli, but inner hope is submerged
Lost soul preaching that if the joy is cloaked, how can we find the words?
Its now omega terms, what we heard was mediocre, nothingness in motion
The world stops to listen... but still nothing, I guess we were broken
Everything hidden is a puzzle, time devourers, I just don't have the ticks
Im only finding high spirits in liquor cabinets, I don't have the tocks either
I have the cider though, Im sure theres a hidden meaning in there somewhere....

Maven 09-17-03 08:33 PM

:( we'll see how this turns out.

Here We Are In The Beginning; No, Hope Is Not Yet On The Lord's Chart
Thousand Words Paint A Picture;That Doesn't Create An Artist's Heart
A Hundred Million Metaphors, To Paint The Sisteen Chapel, For A Start
The Epitome Of The Underdogs, And Seemingly Barking Up The Wrong Tree
Rhyming Couplets Will Not Pass For Style, Better Turn Them Into Three
Who Really Believes That What Is Kindness Can Pass For What Is Weak?
Who Conceived The Very Reality, I Take For Access Granted Sneak Peek?
Hoping For A Savior, Or At The Very Least The Government's Equivalent
Human Punching Bags Charging Sixteen Dollars/Hour; Who Needs To Vent?
Who's Heaven Sent? And Who Really Gives Up Love For Lent?Not Ever You
So Teach Us Pain And Death And Abstinance, It is What You Have To Do
To Teach Me Why The Sky Is Blue, And What To Do To Cheer Him Back Up
Father Time and Yaweh Are Fist Fighting Cause Mother Nature Is A Slut
So Comprehend These Words I Send; Sit And Comprehend The Eternal Hope
And See Just How Far Your Friends Will Stray Because Of A Simple Joke
But The Hope Will Stay Nearby, That Savior Is Leaving Your Wish List
And Proceeding To Decend From The Clouds; What You Thought Was Bliss
Is Now Just An Inch Above Your Head, So You Abandon Hopes For Facts
Instead Of Remaining True And Strong, You Abandon All Your Camaracs
And Take The Easy Way Out; Start Working The Cash At The Home Depot
Come Crawling Back To Blind Faith; Use Sunglasses To Deceive People
Your Skeleton Is Roughly Shod, You Don't Understand, Turn To God


Everything Is Gone, Here Child, Become My Lament
You Spent Many A Year Telling Me To Get Bent
Hope Is No More, That's Right, No More Bliss
Yes, Come Closer, See How Sharp The Knife Is


You Need A New Hope...

Johnny 6-feet 09-23-03 01:02 PM

another close one. both had CRAZY imagery, great ideas expressed, strong vocab, originality...

but i have to give this to n-demik for the following lines:

"Its like learning to walk, then talk back, Persians learning to steal"

"But he isn't looking back...In fact thats the freeze frame forever seen
from your broken parents dream, as your grubby nails unpicked the seams"

"There is a little tyrant inside of us all... trying to escape!!!!!!"

"Im only finding high spirits in liquor cabinets,"

vote- N-demik

you got nothing to be ashamed of understatment. good work from both of you.

Content 09-23-03 02:46 PM

so understatement didnt have any good lines
worth mentioning johnny...if your gonna judge
go in depth with it at least like geGe does....
the evaluation was lame and understatement
deserves more than one sentence

deacon 09-23-03 03:23 PM

Wow, just checked this out i wasn't the only one....hmmm
blah!!............................................ ...................................
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DaGyrlRemarqabL 09-23-03 04:05 PM

Understatement does deserve more than one sentence...
But..let's not everyone jump on Johnny, now...
If he doesnt check back in and see this, Ill tell him to edit his post and add a little more reasoning..
He's not a regular at the judging..he knows now.

Content 09-23-03 04:21 PM

Camarac...Addlibb...Phrantik...Why Johnny?
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DaGyrlRemarqabL 09-23-03 04:45 PM

Anyways...

Interesting topic and nice, NICE effort put forth by both fellaz. The joy was REALLY hidden..lol...

N-Demik~
Wow...Very well written...Content was interesting and was accentuated even more so by the eloquent vocabulary and knowledgable references..Very complex piece, I liked the ending, also.

"Piloting to guide the vanity stimuli, but inner hope is submerged
Lost soul preaching that if the joy is cloaked, how can we find the words?"

Great ^Line and subtle reference to the topic...Nice.

"But he isn't looking back...In fact thats the freeze frame forever seen
from your broken parents dream, as your grubby nails unpicked the seams"

^That line was incredible....Brilliant imagery, good way to get the message across....I really liked this piece.
Nice job Demik.

Understatement~
YES. I loved this verse. The first five lines pulled me way in, great style and execution.

"Here We Are In The Beginning; No, Hope Is Not Yet On The Lord's Chart
Thousand Words Paint A Picture;That Doesn't Create An Artist's Heart"

The rhyming couplets line was nice too....Really great way to start off, beautifully written.

"Who's Heaven Sent? And Who Really Gives Up Love For Lent?Not Ever You
So Teach Us Pain And Death And Abstinance, It is What You Have To Do
To Teach Me Why The Sky Is Blue, And What To Do To Cheer Him Back Up
Father Time and Yaweh Are Fist Fighting Cause Mother Nature Is A Slut"

This was soooo captivating..It made me think, and the imagery in the last line I quoted was humerous but then quickly turned serious as the message filters thru it all....I loved it.

"So Comprehend These Words I Send; Sit And Comprehend The Eternal Hope
And See Just How Far Your Friends Will Stray Because Of A Simple Joke"
I really like that line..Has a lot of meaning to it.

And lastly:

"Your Skeleton Is Roughly Shod, You Don't Understand, Turn To God"

Great conclusion, along with the final lines it italics at the very bottom..very moving way to end the piece..

Ummm, to be perfectly honest I read these and I knew right after which one I wanted to vote for...You can't really complain much about either of the two verses, two very talented poets, both brought great interpretation of the topic to the table..so really, it all comes down to which one reaches the reader more, which one has more to offer the mind's eye...Which leaves you with a greater feeling after reading it...
And for me, in this case,
It was Understatement's verse.
All around, his verse had a greater impact on me as the reader.
Great job by both tho.

VOTE: UNDERSTATEMENT

ps- I still love you, Rook;)

Phrantik's will be the deciding vote.

DaGyrlRemarqabL 09-23-03 04:54 PM

It's important that everyone feels they are being fairly judged, and Johnny's critiquing (or lack there of) just wasn't cuttin' it.

Camarac will be judging (assuming he agrees to), So all of Johnny's votes thus far will be DISREGARDED.

This battle is 1-0 right now, in Understatament's favor.

It is awaiting votes from Phrantik and/or Camarac.

Johnny 6-feet 09-24-03 06:31 AM

you want a couple of more reasons why i didnt vote for understatement? alright content, i'll concede to your bitching and go into more depth.

understatement did have some great work done on this. a few stand out lines of his i noticed:

"The Epitome Of The Underdogs, And Seemingly Barking Up The Wrong Tree"

"Human Punching Bags Charging Sixteen Dollars/Hour; Who Needs To Vent?"

"Your Skeleton Is Roughly Shod, You Don't Understand, Turn To God"

3 killer lines. i still think n-demik was both more on-topic and wittier than understatement.


and i've been asked to judge because ive been on this site longer than all the other judges except DaGyrlRemarqabL. if you wanna disregard my votes even though they were fair and balanced and contained enough detail for anyone to understand why i voted fine. just dont bother asking me for any favours in the future coz you wasted my fucking time.

Content 09-24-03 01:27 PM

everyone currently in the tournaments will disagree
with your votes not just me..bitch...grow up and let it
slide you didnt judge well...maybe alright for front lines
or sommit but even gege agreed..N Demik dosent just
win cause hes N Demik....Varento dosent win just cause
hes Varento...nobody should win on their fuckin name alone....
evrn though everything has been great to this point...

run along johnny.....

N-Demik 09-24-03 03:50 PM

Quote:
N Demik dosent just
win cause hes N Demik....Varento dosent win just cause
hes Varento


Word....Why Didn't You Call Me Nancy..You Normally Do.. :rolleyes:

I Didn't Even Ask To Be In A Poetry Tourney Anyway...The End Just Felt Like Putting Me In It, So Im Not Exactly Bothered If I Lose.........And Mr.Maven Knows What I Thought About His Verse... :p

Atleast This Got Me Back To Writing I Guess And Thats The Main Thing.... :)

*Dances And Leaves Thread Gracefully*

Maven 09-24-03 05:56 PM

:D Nancy knows how I feel about his verse too.

I don't necessarily disagree with Johnny's vote. It was his choice, which is what judges are for. But it's up to Gege, cuz she's running the tourney.

Who is the other judge? Cam Iraq? Tikkers?

Content 09-24-03 10:18 PM

Gege...Phrantik..Camarac...thank goodness
Gege...Phrantik..Camarac...thank goodness
.....hum de dum de dum de dum....
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Baron Mynd 09-25-03 09:35 PM

Im not voting, based on the simple fact Demik is being on a mixtape ith me, and maven is in my crew here, whichever way i voted one would complain so id rather not vote if at all posible, i thought i posted in here already stating so, but i guess not.

varentao 09-25-03 09:41 PM

^Well they both seem mature enough to take it. But i guess you know them better. Erm, maybe Shiznit can vote in your place. She's out now (shame), but she's got good head...

shiznit 09-25-03 09:50 PM

^I would be honor to do so V...

....But the fact that im still at my aunts house doin some crap for her....I would prolly do that later and do my whole thoughts on both of them and that hopefully i would come up with a fair and right decision. (100 characters suck!)


Oh yeah...Varentao my lost was not a shame but rather a relieve that im already out. I couldnt admit the fact that even when im cooking at work..i was brainwashing..for this tourny and i was really not into it at all. But congrats to Madd.

So can i celebrate now Dagyrl ;)?

Baron Mynd 09-25-03 10:07 PM

Quote:
she's got good head...


Werdness! . . Aahahaha, Im So Immature Its Crazy = )

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Johnny 6-feet 09-26-03 11:29 AM

content, listen kid(im probaly the kid but lets run with it).
I dont care whether people argreed with my votes or not,
thats what democrasy is for. fine, i wasnt particulary
bothered about being involved in this tournament anyway.

~thank fucking goodness your not that intellectual~
good cause Camaracs a much better judge and id blaze
you like this topical which you didnt even understand
making you vote for necromancer who even said hed
vote for me..stupid...id blaze you in gay ass text or audio

sighs..returns to normal..

DaGyrlRemarqabL 09-27-03 02:03 PM

ummmm....
IF PHRANTIK, HAZY or SHITZNIT RARE READING THIS, ONE OF YOU DROP YOUR VOTE ON THIS BATTLE, PLEASE! LIKE, NOW! THIS ROUND HAS BEEN GOING ON LONG ENOUGH AND THIS BATTLE AND THE LACK OF JUDGES IS WHATS HOLDING IT UP!

shiznit 09-27-03 05:09 PM

Ill do teh judging if you would let me post it tonight when i got home. I am off to work right now and as much as i really wanted to get things over with...Judging this might take a lot of thinking and in depth understanding so i wouldnt force myself now to do it but later even to execute a fairly and acceptable decision. But if someone would do this before i do...then i would understand. Its never too late.


..but hey..just helping dagyrl out...


Ill edit this post later.


Thanks for your consideration.

DaGyrlRemarqabL 09-28-03 12:42 AM

that'd be great if you could, Shiz.....No pressure.. :D
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DaGyrlRemarqabL 09-29-03 03:53 PM

Ok this is getting ridiculous........................................ .................................................. ................................

Maven 09-29-03 05:13 PM

am I allowed to concede the match for the good of the tourney?
or are we waiting on anyone who cares to vote?

HazY.B 09-29-03 05:43 PM

Its being heard in the street..by... Chaplin performers...Its torture
The forthcoming contorsion through Tycoons augmenting a fortune

N demik

the chaplin line really speaks out because he was a great performer of the arts
and poetry being an art you incorperated the two and i found that line irrestable


So Comprehend These Words I Send; Sit And Comprehend The Eternal Hope
And See Just How Far Your Friends Will Stray Because Of A Simple Joke
^ the double comprehend line (understatement) makes me feel that This was your highlight THIS IS WHAT you wanted us to understand and i felt it and got what you were saying


Everything Is Gone, Here Child, Become My Lament
You Spent Many A Year Telling Me To Get Bent
Hope Is No More, That's Right, No More Bliss
Yes, Come Closer, See How Sharp The Knife Is

^ understatment this was an excellint outro teh shorter italicied font made it stand apart from the rest and made the reader review your whole peice just to fully understand your poem

N demik with this line I COULDNT AGREE MORE:
There is a little tyrant inside of us all... trying to escape!!!!!!

this i belive is the main point of the topic
i felt that line right there was teh one the grabbed me and made me STAY on this page reading these poems and taking the 20 minutes it took me to decide who won

with that my vote goes to n demik because the topic was a hidden joy
and i feel that his poem hit home more and made me think of WHAT HIDDEN JOY do i obtain?

shiznit 09-29-03 06:51 PM

I can hardly see it through you guys eyes but for me it is really getting
ridiculous. But if i may say i would like to apologize for the whole ill-take-the-job-but-ill-post-
soon-crap that just happened. Merely shitty work just on my face for
awehile now and i havent really got the time to lay my hands on my keyboard
until now. So i guess you can consider my work ridiculous as hell too.


I know that many of you would say 'Damn, FInally!' and yet thats just exactly
what i had in mind. I may have not have the time but still i would do it.

TO start this i had to get in depth with the writers' perspectives on which
the topic occured through their minds and compressed them using their talents.
As ive seen here...the deepnesss exampled on each of the verses placed me in
such structure that would have possibly been a fantasy. Required much of their
inner meanings added to it.

So without further ado..here ya go.


N-Demik

..Far off from what ive seen from your works. I personally desired your whole
different approach on each of this and to be honest i am pretty much impressed
myself and this one is not an exception but the only i dont understand is
that why did you lost the eagernessof writing and The End had to get your ass
and participate on here?..(which is none of my business i supposed).

Youve introduced the whole piece with such quality and assessed it using such
powerful educational aspirations.


"Its being heard in the street..by... Chaplin performers...Its torture
The forthcoming contorsion through Tycoons augmenting a fortune"


I know i had to read between the lines here but it seems to me that the whole
Chaplin idea expressed inner desires in each of us. The true reflection of it
through a mirror as if you can refined and see it transparently. The soundless
of making your self heard highly shouted either pain or happiness.


"Even beyond the remorse reflected in the glass thats looking back
Missing the crooked back, but no giving back to the image looking back
But he isn't looking back...In fact thats the freeze frame forever seen
from your broken parents dream, as your grubby nails unpicked the seams"


Having these lines coming from such a great writer...brilliantly assembled
that they were firmly construed images that is basically refined the whole process
of giving them whole idea and story approached.

"The world stops to listen... but still nothing, I guess we were broken
Everything hidden is a puzzle, time devourers, I just don't have the ticks
Im only finding high spirits in liquor cabinets, I don't have the tocks either
I have the cider though, Im sure theres a hidden meaning in there somewhere."


...Even the finisher made it possible to understand the whole piece all throughout


The words and imagery compiled fromt op to bottom made it somehow to understand
each and every word of it. Hidden Desires waiting to shout itto the world but using
only actions sometimes its just impossible to do.

Brilliantly made.



Understatement


UNderestimation in my part was such a dissappointment because youve definitely
risked everything to obtain such a very inpirational piece on this one. Just
like the one on the last tourny where youves used your acoustic ability to had me
stumblin off the tourny. ;)

Way to be on a different level of the topic.
Started looking at a certain list where you need to compare beginning to end.
Start to finish. First to last.

"Here We Are In The Beginning; No, Hope Is Not Yet On The Lord's Chart
Thousand Words Paint A Picture;That Doesn't Create An Artist's Heart
A Hundred Million Metaphors, To Paint The Sisteen Chapel, For A Start
The Epitome Of The Underdogs, And Seemingly Barking Up The Wrong Tree"


Yet its true. The strong analogies and pertained rotation from your words
livingly attained in such manner where a true meaning of a certain piece
lies. It was like rephrasing the sayings where circular motion youve bent along.


"Instead Of Remaining True And Strong, You Abandon All Your Camaracs
And Take The Easy Way Out; Start Working The Cash At The Home Depot
Come Crawling Back To Blind Faith; Use Sunglasses To Deceive People
Your Skeleton Is Roughly Shod, You Don't Understand, Turn To God"


.....Home Depot was kinda clever. I see it this way. A maze. An unewnding maze,
where it seems there no beginning and no end. And youve just found yourself
trapped in the middle but yet the fact remains you dont know if you are or your not.
Still the questions in ur head asking you whats yet to do? Did i make the right
decisions or did i do something that would make me lose everything?. Blind Faith,
Shod Skeleton, Turn to God. I liked how uve turn it around.


And of course...Last Lines..

"Everything Is Gone, Here Child, Become My Lament
You Spent Many A Year Telling Me To Get Bent
Hope Is No More, That's Right, No More Bliss
Yes, Come Closer, See How Sharp The Knife Is"


IMagery with passion reflected on those lines. Its like Death is at hand but merely
staying away from it.Terminology mainly astounded me for a fact that they were
well used from the top to bottom.


Okay here's the hard part...the decision.

I know this would hard because both are such good writers and they pretty
much did a good job with these verses.And i am very impressed with the verses.
But we all know i had to choose.


These lines had me ...like whoa..

"
Who Really Believes That What Is Kindness Can Pass For What Is Weak?
Who Conceived The Very Reality, I Take For Access Granted Sneak Peek?"


So obviously...the fact that N demik Shined in his work....I am kinda hooked up
along those lines from none other than....



yeah...Understatement



Just wanna say this is a very hard decision in such a close battle to begin with.
But judgement is stated.

Props to everyone going on Rnd 3.

shiznit 09-29-03 06:52 PM

Hold on?...Am i too late?


.........well i guess i am huh?..Dagyrl's Decision.


Ill Respect it.

HazY.B 09-29-03 07:18 PM

yea im not sure either it is gege's cuz i didnt see that you said you would when i saw my name.......

dang there i go and make things all complicated lmao

since you have more posts and have been registered longer your vote should probably count

DaGyrlRemarqabL 09-29-03 08:41 PM

Im going to go with Shiz's vote, because 1)she agreed to help vote first, she just got a little tied up, and 2)I agree with her vote more, A vote for N-demik would STILL not allow us to progress with this long and drawn out tourny, for the score of this would then be 1-1 and we'd have to scrape around to find yet ANOTHER judge to break the tie.

So This goes to Understatement
Thanks both Hazy and Shiz

HazY.B 09-29-03 08:43 PM

no doubt gege
my vote was a an opinion

is there gonna be open judgin for the next battles or are theyre gonna be assigned

varentao 09-29-03 08:45 PM

Wait a minute. Gege and Shiz voted for Understatement. Hazy voted for N-Demik. So what's all the confusion?! 2-1 to Understatment, innit?..

Correct me if i'm wrong though. I just walked 8 miles home. So i'm a bit tired.

Either way, Understatement wins. Though it was much closer than that. Closest match of the tournament so far, like...

DaGyrlRemarqabL 09-29-03 08:51 PM

LOL...You just missed the confusion Var....Theres none NOW, there was when I was the lonely vote in here for like a whole week. Shiz and Hazy just voted practically at the same time..But anywho, you can close this now :)

HazY.B 09-29-03 08:51 PM

yea but V my vote didnt count lol...so it was 2-0

yup and thats that
simple isnt it>



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varentao 09-29-03 08:55 PM

Heh, i know, i know. I was talking about the...gah! I'll stop there...:guy:

(100 characters...i actually like that rule, it enables one to type nonsence randomly and anonimously(sp)...hmmm.....)...


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